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Title: Shield Mods
Post by: Woomeister on March 18, 2001, 08:53:00 pm: I finally put a ship into a battle test.

The shielded Sathanas Vs GTI Galatea II (no shield) and Alpha Wing (4 Boanerges packing Maxim and Helios)

Ended with 2 survivors of Alpha Wing and the Galatea at 13% + 1 support ship (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)

(http://members.tripod.co.uk/SocWoo/mod01.jpg)

I'm planning a total of 30 more ships from freighters, awacs to destroyers!

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Title: Shield Mods
Post by: Setekh on March 18, 2001, 11:26:00 pm: Heheh. The beams would do all the damage obviously, because they can bypass the shield. I wonder if the shield integrity of the Sathanas was reduce at all by the end of the fight. (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/eek.gif)

Excellent job, Woomeister! (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
Title: Shield Mods
Post by: Darkage on March 19, 2001, 12:13:00 am: Good job dude keep them commming (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)

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And girls.
yea suppernova's let her rip:D
Action is reaction by: Newton
Title: Shield Mods
Post by: Bobboau on March 19, 2001, 05:12:00 am: but it probly still looks cool seing all thouse sheild hit efects.

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Title: Shield Mods
Post by: Woomeister on March 19, 2001, 07:47:00 am: Quote
Originally posted by Setekh:
Heheh. The beams would do all the damage obviously, because they can bypass the shield. I wonder if the shield integrity of the Sathanas was reduce at all by the end of the fight. (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/eek.gif)

Excellent job, Woomeister! (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)

The Galatea IIs rapid fire laser can. If it can get close enough (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
Title: Shield Mods
Post by: Woomeister on March 19, 2001, 10:08:00 am: Quote
Originally posted by darkage:
Good job dude keep them commming (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)

I just uploaded five new ones!
They are:

GTI Arcadia
GTA Charybdis
GVA Setekh
GTG Zephyrus
SC Rakshasa

and there will be more soon!

[This message has been edited by Woomeister (edited 03-19-2001).]
Title: Shield Mods
Post by: Woomeister on March 19, 2001, 03:38:00 pm: I posted another ship the Triton Freighter!

The shield will even protect cargo.

Expect a lot of updates over the next few days (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
23 more to go!
Title: Shield Mods
Post by: Woomeister on March 19, 2001, 07:00:00 pm: new ships and a new pic!

(http://members.tripod.co.uk/SocWoo/lil.jpg)

The Lilith/Cain and the Argo are ready.

As you can see I've started messing with the colour of the shields.

I need the best colours (RGB Values in table) for each of the species so does anyone have any ideas?
Shivan Red = ?
Terran Blue = ?
Vasudan Green = ?
Title: Shield Mods
Post by: Setekh on March 20, 2001, 12:00:00 am: Well I imagine all the colours should be fairly light. So it would go something like this:

Shivan (light red) - 90, 0, 0
Terran (light blue) - 0, 0, 90
Vasudan (light green) - 0, 90, 0
Vasudan (light yellow) - 50, 70, 0

Pump those in and see how they go. (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)

Btw - it's an excellent job you're doing with the Shield Project, keep it up! (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
Title: Shield Mods
Post by: Darkage on March 20, 2001, 12:06:00 am: These are the actuale colors (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
terrans= 100 100 255
vasudans= 100 255 100
shivan= 255 92 92

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Ik houd erg veel van bier
And girls.
yea suppernova's let her rip:D
Action is reaction by: Newton
Title: Shield Mods
Post by: Setekh on March 20, 2001, 12:13:00 am: I was making up those RGB values off the top of my head. Those were my estimations of the actual colours that the shields glow - I just realised that making the other colour values low (ie. 0) would make the colour darker, not lighter. Stupid Setekh. (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/wink.gif)
Title: Shield Mods
Post by: Darkage on March 20, 2001, 12:25:00 am: hehe (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif) (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/hammer.gif)

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[email protected] hello,great bb
Ik houd erg veel van bier
And girls.
yea suppernova's let her rip:D
Action is reaction by: Newton
Title: Shield Mods
Post by: Woomeister on March 20, 2001, 04:24:00 am: Quote
Originally posted by darkage:
These are the actuale colors (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
terrans= 100 100 255
vasudans= 100 255 100
shivan= 255 92 92
Yeah, these are the right ones thanks darkage (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
Title: Shield Mods
Post by: Darkage on March 20, 2001, 09:12:00 am: No prob dude (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)

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[email protected] hello,great bb
Ik houd erg veel van bier
And girls.
yea suppernova's let her rip:D
Action is reaction by: Newton
Title: Shield Mods
Post by: Woomeister on March 20, 2001, 03:37:00 pm: I only have three models to do. I should be able to release a complete package tommorow.

(If the Colossus converts nicely) (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)

If I miss anything someone wants tell me!
Title: Shield Mods
Post by: Darkage on March 21, 2001, 12:25:00 am: I have them all so far (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)

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[email protected] hello,great bb
Ik houd erg veel van bier
And girls.
yea suppernova's let her rip:D
Action is reaction by: Newton
Title: Shield Mods
Post by: Setekh on March 21, 2001, 03:58:00 am: Amazing... excellent job, Woomeister!

(I am running out of positive adjectives for you guys (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif))
Title: Shield Mods
Post by: Woomeister on March 21, 2001, 09:22:00 am: ok it's finnished (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)

There's 33 ships inside 3 packs as my 56k modem wouldn't upload a 4mb zip file. All three come with the same ships.tbl so only keep one.

I hope you enjoy the mods (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)
Title: Shield Mods
Post by: Darkage on March 21, 2001, 12:43:00 pm: Now i realy got them all (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)

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[email protected] hello,great bb
Ik houd erg veel van bier
And girls.
yea suppernova's let her rip:D
Action is reaction by: Newton
Title: Shield Mods
Post by: Sushi on March 21, 2001, 02:22:00 pm: How's stability? I heard that Capship shields tended to crash...

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Title: Shield Mods
Post by: Woomeister on March 21, 2001, 02:52:00 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Sushi:
How's stability? I heard that Capship shields tended to crash...

So far I've had no crashes. As you can see from the pic in my first post I was fighting the shielded Sathanas for over 13 minutes!
Title: Shield Mods
Post by: Sushi on March 21, 2001, 03:28:00 pm: Sweet...next question. How hard is it to take down the shields on some of those? Do fighters have any chance?

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Title: Shield Mods
Post by: Woomeister on March 21, 2001, 03:32:00 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Sushi:
Sweet...next question. How hard is it to take down the shields on some of those? Do fighters have any chance?

Depends on the capship and no with the big destroyers but fighters can pass through the shields. But you can set your own strength depending what you need it for (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)
Title: Shield Mods
Post by: Setekh on March 22, 2001, 04:22:00 am: I wonder if a Helios wouldn't even make a dent on the Sathanas' shield... (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/wink.gif)
Title: Shield Mods
Post by: Shrike on March 22, 2001, 04:30:00 am: 6800 dmg x .01 = not much
Title: Shield Mods
Post by: Setekh on March 22, 2001, 05:06:00 am: Damn shield factor. (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/wink.gif)

Time to break out the Circes.
Title: Shield Mods
Post by: Starwing on March 22, 2001, 05:32:00 am: What about a ShieldKiller torpedo?
Title: Shield Mods
Post by: Woomeister on March 22, 2001, 09:30:00 am: Quote
Originally posted by Setekh:
I wonder if a Helios wouldn't even make a dent on the Sathanas' shield... (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/wink.gif)

Nope and it hurts at close range so don't hit the shield with a helios at close range.
I thought I was inside the shield but was on the edge and fired a Helios at one of its beam turrets, the bomb hit the shield about 150m from my bomber.
Title: Shield Mods
Post by: Sushi on March 22, 2001, 02:27:00 pm: So fighters can fly inside the shield radius and attack the hull without having to damage the shield? If so, PERFECT! (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif) (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif) (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif) (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif) (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)

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Title: Shield Mods
Post by: Woomeister on March 22, 2001, 04:22:00 pm: Shields now mean I'll have to redo the GTTC Warrior. It has no shields, and its torpedo does very little damage to shields. It's too obselete now. Time to start messing with things again (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)

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Title: Shield Mods
Post by: Sushi on March 23, 2001, 02:40:00 pm: Is this done? And if so, where's the download?

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Title: Shield Mods
Post by: Woomeister on March 23, 2001, 02:50:00 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Sushi:
Is this done? And if so, where's the download?

Go to: http://members.tripod.co.uk/SocWoo/ ("http://members.tripod.co.uk/SocWoo/")
Enjoy (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
Title: Shield Mods
Post by: Sushi on March 23, 2001, 03:00:00 pm: So, when you releasing this bad boy?

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Title: Shield Mods
Post by: Woomeister on March 23, 2001, 03:16:00 pm: You can get it at my site now. It'll be here soon (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)

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Home of the Shield project.
Title: Shield Mods
Post by: Darkmage on March 23, 2001, 03:41:00 pm: Would it be possible to make a torpedo which can go straight through the shields? If so I may put PHASE shields on my capships in the Wing Commander mod through which only torpedoes can travel. MWAHAHAHA

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Title: Shield Mods
Post by: Setekh on March 23, 2001, 05:28:00 pm: That one's a toughy. AFAIK only beams can bypass shields.
Title: Shield Mods
Post by: Woomeister on March 23, 2001, 06:12:00 pm: Beams, Fighters and exploding Capships can pass through the shields.
Title: Shield Mods
Post by: Sushi on March 24, 2001, 10:42:00 am: Sorry about the repeat host. Either HLP forums or my comp were kinda hosed for a bit, and although the topic cound increased, my post didn't appear. (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif) Will download as soon as I'm back on a fast connect and tell you what I think.

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Title: Shield Mods
Post by: Woomeister on March 25, 2001, 09:35:00 am: I've started work on a shielded lucifer for Freespace 1

(http://members.tripod.co.uk/SocWoo/fs1lucifersh.jpg)

It's not up on my site yet but will be soon.

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Title: Shield Mods
Post by: Nico on March 25, 2001, 11:01:00 am: stupid question: you have a herc2 model for FS1?

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Title: Shield Mods
Post by: Woomeister on March 25, 2001, 11:06:00 am: Quote
Originally posted by venom2506:
stupid question: you have a herc2 model for FS1?

Yes (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)
I have most fs2 ships in Freespace.
Title: Shield Mods
Post by: Setekh on March 25, 2001, 03:38:00 pm: Quote
Originally posted by Woomeister:
I've started work on a shielded lucifer for Freespace 1

(http://members.tripod.co.uk/SocWoo/fs1lucifersh.jpg)

I wonder why (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/v.gif) didn't do that. (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
Title: Shield Mods
Post by: Woomeister on March 25, 2001, 04:03:00 pm: Dunno, I'm trying to get it to actually work in the original campaign. That's why it's not out yet. I rewrote the missions to include it, but the campaign still uses the old ones.
Title: Shield Mods
Post by: Sushi on March 25, 2001, 04:04:00 pm: I'll bet framerate had something to do with it. Can't wait for that shielded Lucifer! (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)

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Title: Shield Mods
Post by: Woomeister on March 25, 2001, 04:08:00 pm: It'll be up soon. The model works in new missions, just not in the original campaign.
Title: Shield Mods
Post by: Sushi on March 25, 2001, 04:18:00 pm: That's wierd. It doesn't take the campaign mission out of the Missions directory first?

You could change the mission, then recompile it back into the VP file...would THAT work?

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Title: Shield Mods
Post by: Woomeister on March 25, 2001, 04:28:00 pm: This lucifer has the same shield as the FS2 version. I backwards converted it like I did with the other FS2 ships.

I might rebuild the campaign from scratch so it doesn't have that problem. I just need to write a campaign file.
Title: Shield Mods
Post by: Woomeister on March 25, 2001, 07:16:00 pm: I made a short 30 second trailer of the shield mod, to show its capabilities. It's about 1.5mb and does not have any sound. It's a group of fighters and the Galatea II attacking a Sathanas. Fighters include Herc III, Apollo, Valkyre and Ulysees III (current skin)
Heres a pic from it.
(http://members.tripod.co.uk/SocWoo/vidcap.jpg)

Just hop over to my site to get it if you want it. (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)

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Title: Shield Mods
Post by: Darkage on March 25, 2001, 11:22:00 pm: How did you record that i have the same program but i can't record in game?

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[email protected] hello,great bb
Ik houd erg veel van bier
And girls.
yea suppernova's let her rip:D
Action is reaction by: Newton
Title: Shield Mods
Post by: Setekh on March 26, 2001, 12:43:00 am: Dude, great job! Once I download these, I'll upload them to the HLP servers so that they will be on resumable servers and everything - w00h00t! Excellent job, Woomeister! (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
Title: Shield Mods
Post by: Woomeister on March 26, 2001, 06:52:00 am: Quote
Originally posted by darkage:
How did you record that i have the same program but i can't record in game?
This is what I did:

Run Hypercam,
Set the screen area to 640*480. (fs size)
Set the frame rate to 10fps at 75% compression.
Make sure record sound and record cursor are deselected.
Keep it open but don't record.
Run Freespace.
Get to where you want to be, press escape to bring up the quit menu. Press Alt-Tab to retirn to Hypercam. Start recording, and click on freespace in the taskbar. Start playing. Quit and finnish recording.
A 56 second file was about 11mb and had many black frames which gave a flashing effect. You then need to edit the file to get rid of the extra frames you don't need. I used Animation Shop 3 (comes with PSP 7) My file was 56 seconds and became 30 seconds. Then compress it using a plugin (I used DivX Mpeg-4 DVD encoder)
Title: Shield Mods
Post by: Darkage on March 26, 2001, 07:54:00 am: Thanks dude ill go and try it out,o and i have a new intercepter made from the isis transporter and a new havey asault fighter from the fs1 vasudan support ship (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)

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[email protected] hello,great bb
Ik houd erg veel van bier
And girls.
yea suppernova's let her rip:D
Action is reaction by: Newton
Title: Shield Mods
Post by: Woomeister on March 27, 2001, 04:37:00 am: Finally it works, the shielded Lucifer for FS1 is up and will work in the original campaign missions. So go to my site and get it if you want it (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)

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Home of the Shield project.
Title: Shield Mods
Post by: Sushi on March 27, 2001, 02:34:00 pm: Hmmm....Woo, I can't get any of your Dloads to work, and I've tried two computers now for several days. One of them was even broadband. (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/frown.gif) Something isn't working right...

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Title: Shield Mods
Post by: Woomeister on March 27, 2001, 03:44:00 pm: I think there server is down. I've added a mirror link to one of my other webspaces. I tested it and it works. The trailer isn't up on this server though but the three fs2 packs and the fs1 Lucifer are. There's not much space left on this one.
(my fs2-fs1 conversion's on this one)

Time to start looking for a new host (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)