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Site Management => Site Support / Feedback => Topic started by: Mobius on November 28, 2008, 02:28:08 pm
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I see many flags around and I wonder why they're still there since someone in the top echelon didn't really like the use of flags in the forums. The same principle may be applied to the list of "fellow patriots", like "Italians of HLP: Me, X, Y, Z, etc. etc.".
I thought it was the case to discuss the subject, what's wrong with someone's attempt to put a flag or a list of HLPers who live in the same country? Does it violate any of the hints for good forum conduct?
IMO they're fine if they're not exaggerately big or racist, afterall they're only a way to make a certain member feel home in a forum whose only language is English.
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I have an idea! Let's add more stuff to help segregate HLP and estrange its members from each other!
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I have an idea! Let's ban thesizzler! :p
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I have an idea! Let's ban thesizzler! :p
seconded :p
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*facepalm*
Please, discuss in a serious way...
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If your sig draws more attention than your post then you're doing it wrong.
If you spend more time worrying about the content of your sig than the content of your posts, you're doing it wrong.
If you believe that most of the people on this board give a stuff about anyone's sig unless it breaks the first rule, you've very mistaken.
As long as you understand those 3 things your sig can be anything you like.
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Go to any forum that allows images in signatures, and you'll understand why HLP has a rather strict policy about how much irrelevant gobbledygook is tolerated in anyone's sig.
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I can appreciate the imposed limitations. Especially after the bunny / carl / boob war a few years back. My sig's a perfect example of toeing the line i think. I don't get the fanclubs either. (Even though i preside over, and have one) i just got caught up in the "hype" which kinda shows how things can go OTT. :)
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boob war
You got my attention, tell me more.
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Some people's signatures can be very useful though, take Lobo's for example, if I need any of the latest stuff for FSO, I just look him up and check out his signature.
I think some of the other's signature's can be amusing. I forget about my signature most of the time, it just comes in handy for spotting my own posts in a thread when scanning through it.
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I find annoying some members "extensive" signatures... I can't find their post between it's abundant amount of quotes.
About flags and stuff... well that's up to the one responsible for the signature... if users do not realice that their signature is annoying or out of place, then I imagine that their posts will be as much annoying or out of place as their signatures, so restricting this feature in the forum will not help that much, and also it will provoke another useless debate such us "not permitted the welcome speech".
Well that's what I think but hell... don't listen to me, I'm at work right now and loosing my brain to some big problems we're having now.... and I'm pissed off also :P
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if users do not realice that their signature is annoying or out of place, then I imagine that their posts will be as much annoying or out of place as their signatures, so restricting this feature in the forum will not help that much, and also it will provoke another useless debate such us "not permitted the welcome speech".
The problem is that restricting the feature results in a useless debate here. Allowing people to have long sigs and fake image sigs results in useless debates everywhere!
Which means it's more sensible to just tell people no officially than have every single debate where someone posts with an obnoxiously long sig.
As for sigs themselves the only reason I haven't turned them off for myself is that occasionally you do get people like Lobo or jr2 who do something useful with them.
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i'd vote for a limit on the length of sigs tho 5-6 lines of text on 1024x768 is a sensible solution and a lot of forums use that one afaik.
i've seen some people on this forum have sigs upwards of 15-20 lines... fun times scrolling through a thread with most of its content being a signature :p
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boob war
You got my attention, tell me more.
I think there may be a survivor in a sig somewhere you know the sort...
--<>-<>-- prevents (.)(.) from drooping etc...:)
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/me yeah, whatever...
:bump:
There are still some of those around here, right?
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Uh...
Not that I've noticed.
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My sig is 2 words long. :p
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My sig is 2 words long. :p
745 Words
Ohhh yeahhh
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And now it's less. :p
Sigs around here have been getting far too long and in that case it was an especially bad example of taking up five lines to say what could be said in two. I'll probably be purging a few others as I come across them.
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purginate it all and let only people contributing to the community have them (aka, mod team members, freelancers like lobo, shadowgorrath, etc...)
you want a sig? earn it by being respectfull to all.
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Restrictions for having signatures? Sounds a bit harsh but may work...I think limiting the length of signatures is the best option, anyway...
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I just hope that my signature doesn't get cut. I mean- it has the entire purpose of being me listed there ;)
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The only issue about your signature is that you should, IMO, sort everything in 1-2 lines. Also, instead of writing colored text and adding a link near it, you should rather use a colored text that also serves as link. :)
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Agreed on limiting it vertically, but urling a piece of text overrides any and all colour settings.
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I don't think so. (http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/topic,58024.msg1191815.html#msg1191815)
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I would also suggest dropping the glowy text and using coloured text instead, as glowy text makes the listing of the entire purpose for being you unreadable (and very annoying) to everyone who uses Firefox. Which I suspect is a fairly large percentage of this forum's regulars.
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I know - mine was an example. My intent was to show that colors and glows can be mixed.
Also, Italics rule.
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The reason they are so is cause there'd be multiple links :P
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The colors in the Lithuanian flag should be sorted this way: Li-etu-va.
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No, actually the yellow part is the biggest IIRC.
And :nervous: I think this thread has served its purpose, it's going just slightly off-topic now... I think...
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Actually, those flag colours shouldn't go from left to right, but from top to bottom.
And all colours should be of the same size, but you can't givide 7 by 3.
FSF, get on MSN. And that's not a request.
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An order, then. :p
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That should stop the stupidity.....eventually.
And you people wonder why you can't have avatars. :rolleyes:
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Ahh, much better. Finally my year-long crusade against that damn glow tag can come to an end :D
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That should stop the stupidity.....eventually.
You killed the glow tag... Hillarious. :D
I especially like SG's new signature.
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But now it's insanely long... :eek2:
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For now. Even so, I prefer that to the previous look though. At least it doesn't make my eyes bleed. And if it getting worse for a little while is what it takes for it to get better, than I'm fine with that.
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But now it's insanely long... :eek2:
Which means that anyone stupid enough to stick them in their sig now has no excuse when their sig gets purged later. :p
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Fine, removed my signature entirely. Happy now? Abusing your damn moderator/admin powers just cause you didn't like someone's signature? At least my signature wasn't annoying spam like that iamzack's posts and threads were. So at the first mention of my signature you edit it, while you let her spam everywhere just cause she was a woman? My signature was meant to show the most recent important events of the mods I am involved in.
Well, whatever, guess it's your kind of fun, huh? Thanks for acting like assholes.
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Acting like assholes? You're the one who kept using a non-standard tag that was poison on the eyes of everyone not using IE, despite being informed of this. So half the forum has to suffer just for you to enjoy your IE-only glowiness? Much of your sig wasn't even readable to anyone not on IE, making it entirely pointless in the first place.
I strongly support the admins in having made this change, as that tag was insanely annoying and clearly people could not be trusted to not abuse it.
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Jeez, all you needed to do was remove the glow tags.
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Right. Why were there glow tags there then in the first place, huh? You could have had them removed by default, not working in sigs.
If anyone was really suffering cause of it, you could have said so clearly when I first made the sig so. And it worked fine for me when on Opera or IE, so not my problem you can't read it.
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It was an oversight. Fixed now. :P
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And it worked fine for me when on Opera or IE, so not my problem you can't read it.
See, that's where you're wrong. When you post on a forum with an annoying sig, you make it everyone's problem. And when your sig is involved, everyone's problem becomes your problem... as you can see now. Remember that the forum is for everyone, not just for you. Further, the annoyance of glow tags has been brought up on many threads, including this one, yet you did not change your sig.
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And it worked fine for me when on Opera or IE
Didn't work for me on Opera yesterday.
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As Shade says, signatures are your 'advert' for yourself to everyone on the forum, if you want an example of how bad things can get, try looking through things like the X3 Forums. As much as I love the modding work done on that game, the forum drives me mad with one line of post, an Avatar, A siggy, with pictures etc, sometimes you have to spend a good few seconds just trying to find the actual content of the post, and worse still, the thread keeps leaping around as it reformats itself around each new siggy picture loaded etc.
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Works for me on Opera.
And I can think up of many other more annoying things in this forum than my signature supposedly was.
And, this is the first time I see someone complaining about glow tags.
Ok, fine, I won't post here again, I won't complain about you editing my signature without informing me via PM ( or telling me to do that via PM; I would have reacted normally and edited my signature myself, if an admin PMd me of that and officialy requested me to change my signature, instead of acting this way ).
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Fine, removed my signature entirely. Happy now? Abusing your damn moderator/admin powers just cause you didn't like someone's signature? At least my signature wasn't annoying spam like that iamzack's posts and threads were. So at the first mention of my signature you edit it, while you let her spam everywhere just cause she was a woman? My signature was meant to show the most recent important events of the mods I am involved in.
Well, whatever, guess it's your kind of fun, huh? Thanks for acting like assholes.
1) Iamzack is monkeyed. So that argument is completely threadbare.
2) You added a flag to your signature on a thread where someone asked if they could do so and was told no. You then added one anyway. Consider yourself lucky not to have gotten an insulting title instead.
3) You aren't the only person in the world. Your use of the glow tag does irritate other forum members, especially those on Firefox, it was a complete abuse of the feature (and lets face it, most uses of the glow tag are an abuse of the feature!) and finally your sig WAS annoying spam. As I said in my first post it drew more attention than the content of your post and therefore was wrong.
4) We have turned off images in signatures with good reason. They are a feature that is frequently abused. We did not turn them off so people could then abuse coloured or glowing tags to do the same thing
5) No one forced you to remove your sig completely. You decided to do that.
6) You should have been well aware of all of this. You decided to ignore it and abuse the glow tag anyway. So yes I changed the way the tag works to make you and anyone else using that ridiculous thing look like a fool. But all I did was put up a sign pointing at you, you'd already dressed yourself up in a clown costume already.
Right. Why were there glow tags there then in the first place, huh? You could have had them removed by default, not working in sigs.
They're on by default in SMF. That's another reason I changed them to something insulting. People need to remember not to use them. Or this will all come back again next time we upgrade. :p
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And, this is the first time I see someone complaining about glow tags
First time? Quote from me, earlier in this thread:
as glowy text makes the listing of the entire purpose for being you unreadable (and very annoying) to everyone who uses Firefox. Which I suspect is a fairly large percentage of this forum's regulars.
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As Shade says, signatures are your 'advert' for yourself to everyone on the forum, if you want an example of how bad things can get, try looking through things like the X3 Forums. As much as I love the modding work done on that game, the forum drives me mad with one line of post, an Avatar, A siggy, with pictures etc, sometimes you have to spend a good few seconds just trying to find the actual content of the post, and worse still, the thread keeps leaping around as it reformats itself around each new siggy picture loaded etc.
There was this weird German Naruto forum (http://www.razyboard.com/system/morethread-geschichteinarbeithilflesergesucht-sasusaku-1707566-4496337-0.html) that was also excellent in terms of signatures. Hosi123 ftw.
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I have been using Firefox for a while but I don't complain about the glows, at least not in a "Change that NOW!" way. By the way, I've just edited my Birthday PM example to fit the requirements people talked about in this thread.
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I have been using Firefox for a while but I don't complain about the glows, at least not in a "Change that NOW!" way.
And?
You were the person asking for flags in sigs in the first place, remember? :p
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I'm simply trying to dissipate the feelings of anger spreading here...nevermind. :nervous:
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Honestly, I don't see what's so bad about the glow tag.
Its just like the text is highlighted...
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Honestly, I don't see what's so bad about the glow tag.
Its just like the text is highlighted...
Yeah I agree.
That said, highlighting CAN be annoying in cases where the highlight is the same color as the text.
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That said, highlighting CAN be annoying in cases where the highlight is the same color as the text.
True, that.
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Great now look at the TBP DVD release thread. :ick:
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First time I'm actually able to read the coloured text there... which should in an of itself prove the idiocy of glowing text. Instead of highlighting the text, it made it unreadable.
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:lol: Good ****.
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Great now look at the TBP DVD release thread. :ick:
Yeah, someone should edit that.
For Firefox users it's painful to look at glowy text.
I always wondered why people around here have colored bars/ beams in their signatures, i thought it's somehow FS2 related 'till i accidently marked an entire post with sig, as i tried to copy paste a term that i haven't heard before and saw there is something written.
While it can look good in IE, it's ugly/ unreadable in Firefox.
I personally don't care what people do in their Signatures, but if you want to "pimp" your mod/ campaign or have something to say in/ with your Sig, it would be better to make it readable by everyone, not only by the minority that uses IE.
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I'll get it fixed after the game is over.
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/me interest level explodes.
What game?
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One good thing in signatures is that you do not have view them ( Profile -> Look and Layout Preferences -> Don't show users' signatures. ).
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I don't think so. (http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/topic,58024.msg1191815.html#msg1191815)
Happy Birthday to you too! That's an exact quote from me......... :wtf: and I was wondering why it was in someone else's signature!
Anyways--glow tags are useless. I don't use Internet Explorer, and I've even removed it from Winblows with vLite/nLite on more than one occasion. By the way, admins, can you change or remove my title?
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/me interest level explodes.
What game?
AFC championship game?
Anyway I hope I got the DVD release cleaned up. It was only in there about 25 times. I use Firefox and just assumed it was supposed to look like that.
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YOU LOST THE GAME. :nervous:
Anyways--who won the AFC championship game? :lol:
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YOU LOST THE GAME. :nervous:
If I knew where you lived I would be on my way over there with a shotgun.
EDIT: My friend thinks your name is dumb :D
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Steelers won so this year I get to watch the SuperBowl and the commercials. :pimp: