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Title: Sth I don't understand about FS2 cheats
Post by: Romanmolf on November 29, 2008, 01:52:32 pm: Well I can't activate the cheats. I've heard something about typing ''www.freespace2.com'' either in-mission or in the mainhall and ''~'' keys and... :doubt:
Title: Re: Sth I don't understand about FS2 cheats
Post by: Snail on November 29, 2008, 01:54:43 pm: Have you tried it?
Title: Re: Sth I don't understand about FS2 cheats
Post by: Droid803 on November 29, 2008, 01:56:41 pm: hold down '~' while typing 'www.freespace2.com', while in mission.
Title: Re: Sth I don't understand about FS2 cheats
Post by: General Battuta on November 29, 2008, 02:01:56 pm: I think you just type it in without holding down tilde.

It's very easy once you've got the method down.
Title: Re: Sth I don't understand about FS2 cheats
Post by: captain-custard on November 29, 2008, 02:11:42 pm: but why do you wanyt to cheat?

games by there very definition will have winners and loosers , and it can be anoying rerunninng the same mission 10 or 20 times but thats all part of the game , learning , changing our tactics and playing......
Title: Re: Sth I don't understand about FS2 cheats
Post by: Romanmolf on November 29, 2008, 02:34:37 pm: General Battuta's advice worked. Thanks!

And andicirk, I just cheat for the experience (e.g. firing BIG BEAMS!).
Title: Re: Sth I don't understand about FS2 cheats
Post by: Droid803 on November 29, 2008, 02:42:48 pm: Quote from: andicirk on November 29, 2008, 02:11:42 pm
but why do you wanyt to cheat?

games by there very definition will have winners and loosers , and it can be anoying rerunninng the same mission 10 or 20 times but thats all part of the game , learning , changing our tactics and playing......

I use 'cheats' for testing missions (that I made myself).
Title: Re: Sth I don't understand about FS2 cheats
Post by: eliex on November 29, 2008, 03:26:55 pm: Cheats ruin the game IMO.

But for FREDding related stuff, then that's fine but then you won't know about the balance of the mission. :(
Title: Re: Sth I don't understand about FS2 cheats
Post by: Krallis on November 29, 2008, 03:36:53 pm: Type www.freespace2.com while in game then use the "`" key (the one just below escape)

Holding that and K will destroy a ship.
Holding that and 9 or 0 will change your weapons
Holding that and I will give you invulnerability.
Title: Re: Sth I don't understand about FS2 cheats
Post by: Droid803 on November 29, 2008, 03:48:21 pm: Actually, `k only does 100k damage to a ship or something. I recall the Sathanas taking more than just one `k to kill...or was that the SSJ Dante...whatever.
Title: Re: Sth I don't understand about FS2 cheats
Post by: Krallis on November 29, 2008, 03:51:36 pm: Yeah the colossus needs like 10 "K"

But it will destroy most ships in one press.
Title: Re: Sth I don't understand about FS2 cheats
Post by: eliex on November 29, 2008, 10:20:55 pm: Barring what I said earlier, I noticed in the FS2 campaign that the only way to be promoted (throughout the campaign) from ensign to commander is by cheating.

GTF Loki mounting 2 BFReds?!!! :wtf:
Title: Re: Sth I don't understand about FS2 cheats
Post by: Vertigo 7 on November 29, 2008, 10:30:23 pm: you mean 2 BFRed's mounting a GTF Loki :p
Title: Re: Sth I don't understand about FS2 cheats
Post by: Droid803 on November 29, 2008, 10:44:29 pm: Actually, I'm pretty sure you can get promoted by getting the Sathanas kill (which is very easy to get - Order your wingmen to depart, lob a Helios at it, and then wait for the Colly to beam it to death.), the kill for the SCv Abraxis in Exodus and the kill for the SC Thanatos in the last mission.

Getting all three earns you 25k already.

Getting the Repulse, Vindicator, and Uhuru kills nabs you 1k each.
You get 800 for just lobbing a rockeye at the Belisarius.

If you just aim for capship kills, I believe its quite possible.
Title: Re: Sth I don't understand about FS2 cheats
Post by: Stormkeeper on November 30, 2008, 04:53:01 am: Quote from: andicirk on November 29, 2008, 02:11:42 pm
but why do you wanyt to cheat?

games by there very definition will have winners and loosers , and it can be anoying rerunninng the same mission 10 or 20 times but thats all part of the game , learning , changing our tactics and playing......
There's just something fun about firing beams from a fighter ... or flak, which is my personal favorite if I'm cheating. :drevil:
Title: Re: Sth I don't understand about FS2 cheats
Post by: terran_emperor on November 30, 2008, 10:29:30 am: lob a missile at anthing that is beamed to death. just make sure you hit it and no other fighters do
Title: Re: Sth I don't understand about FS2 cheats
Post by: Stormkeeper on November 30, 2008, 10:37:04 am: Quote from: terran_emperor on November 30, 2008, 10:29:30 am
lob a missile at anthing that is beamed to death. just make sure you hit it and no other fighters do
Hornets work best for this imo, and enough of them can kill cruisers.
Title: Re: Sth I don't understand about FS2 cheats
Post by: Androgeos Exeunt on November 30, 2008, 07:01:53 pm: Try cheating the Shivan Super Lasers into your loadout. It's madness. :D

Cheats were originally supposed to help mission designers balance a mission, although if you've already played through the whole game without cheating, of if you just want to be ~~God~~ FRED, it also comes in handy.

~ + K does 100 000 hull damage. Both the Sathanas and Colossus require 10 times of ~ + K to be destroyed.

Using a Hercules with two SReds is also quite formidable. You can do huge amounts of damage and see what you're hitting. :drevil:

In fact, if the ship you're flying has guns that are spaced far apart from each other, you can see what you hit even if you're firing a beam.

Here's a shot I made by cheating an SRed into my ship in The Procyon Insurgency:

(http://jwmwcw.blu.livefilestore.com/y1p70I-PaQOTqWntYn_bFkc73xvNQoaDjw57-VO1ldAyOOHMnKO843LdEEO244W9wW8yx8bVR_jEP8/MD2.png)
Title: Re: Sth I don't understand about FS2 cheats
Post by: eliex on November 30, 2008, 07:19:17 pm: Quote from: Androgeos Exeunt on November 30, 2008, 07:01:53 pm
Try cheating the Shivan Super Lasers into your loadout. It's madness. :D

Nah, SSL's are way too slow. Beams all the way! :D
Title: Re: Sth I don't understand about FS2 cheats
Post by: terran_emperor on November 30, 2008, 09:12:36 pm: Especially with a BFRed :beamz: to the enemy
Title: Re: Sth I don't understand about FS2 cheats
Post by: Retsof on November 30, 2008, 09:17:35 pm: I remember in retail when beams just gave you a puny little red thing that would knock a fighter back at ludicrus speed before it exploded.
Title: Re: Sth I don't understand about FS2 cheats
Post by: eliex on November 30, 2008, 09:53:33 pm: That was in FS2 retail right?

Bit of an anticlimax the first time I saw it 5 years ago, but making bombers fly backward at 400m/s was quite amusing. :)
Title: Re: Sth I don't understand about FS2 cheats
Post by: Droid803 on November 30, 2008, 09:57:47 pm: well, now you CAN shoot massive beams of death.
(and blind yourself in the process, but that's a small price to pay for UNPARALLELED DESTRUCTION!)
Title: Re: Sth I don't understand about FS2 cheats
Post by: Stormkeeper on November 30, 2008, 10:14:38 pm: Quote from: Droid803 on November 30, 2008, 09:57:47 pm
well, now you CAN shoot massive beams of death.
(and blind yourself in the process, but that's a small price to pay for UNPARALLELED DESTRUCTION!)
QFFT!
Title: Re: Sth I don't understand about FS2 cheats
Post by: Androgeos Exeunt on December 01, 2008, 12:34:31 am: Quote from: eliex on November 30, 2008, 09:53:33 pm
That was in FS2 retail right?

Bit of an anticlimax the first time I saw it 5 years ago, but making bombers fly backward at 400m/s was quite amusing. :)

Oh yeah...SPINNING DEBRIS! WHEE! :drevil:
Title: Re: Sth I don't understand about FS2 cheats
Post by: Droid803 on December 01, 2008, 12:36:07 am: Couldn't you do that with just SSLs?
Title: Re: Sth I don't understand about FS2 cheats
Post by: Androgeos Exeunt on December 01, 2008, 12:47:35 am: Yep, but I don't use the SSLs that often now. It's much more interesting to try and learn how to use the GTM-10 Infyrno and get friendly kills without turning traitor. Want a screenshot of my last kill list? :drevil:
Title: Re: Sth I don't understand about FS2 cheats
Post by: ssmit132 on December 01, 2008, 07:05:49 am: Go on then, give us a look.
Title: Re: Sth I don't understand about FS2 cheats
Post by: Androgeos Exeunt on December 01, 2008, 10:16:48 am: Faeces happens. :D

(http://jwmwcw.blu.livefilestore.com/y1paPSniqqYa5WfaR30bBSmHyq6daWvT-uydwi7i1feydwe1dCZ4KLyxSAgxBAmnmZ8IuqRgyktm9g/MD.png)

That was taken from Mystery of the Trinity when I cheated a rack of Infyrnos and use ~ + W. :drevil:
Title: Re: Sth I don't understand about FS2 cheats
Post by: terran_emperor on December 01, 2008, 12:18:14 pm: Using cheats, and armed with the BFRed, it is possible to make commodore, you just have to play through the entire FS2 main campaign 4 times on Insane difficulty, playing the final mission twice each time
Title: Re: Sth I don't understand about FS2 cheats
Post by: Androgeos Exeunt on December 01, 2008, 06:35:59 pm: Another thing about typing www.freespace2.com is that it activates bullet-time. With that enabled, you can decrease game speed to 0.5x or even 0.25x by pressing SHIFT + <. To speed the game back up, press SHIFT + >. This is very useful if you want to make every shot hit, or if you want to offset a rubbish frame rate. :drevil:

Note that you can still speed up the game even without www.freespace2.com activated, but you cannot slow it down beyond 1x.
Title: Re: Sth I don't understand about FS2 cheats
Post by: Droid803 on December 01, 2008, 07:10:34 pm: Quote from: Androgeos Exeunt on December 01, 2008, 10:16:48 am
Faeces happens. :D

-snip-

That was taken from Mystery of the Trinity when I cheated a rack of Infyrnos and use ~ + W. :drevil:

Did you manage to save the Trinity?
Title: Re: Sth I don't understand about FS2 cheats
Post by: eliex on December 01, 2008, 07:49:04 pm: Nah, Command will just tell you to get lost for cheating. :P
Title: Re: Sth I don't understand about FS2 cheats
Post by: Romanmolf on December 02, 2008, 01:01:33 pm: No. They'll execute you
Title: Re: Sth I don't understand about FS2 cheats
Post by: terran_emperor on December 02, 2008, 01:03:46 pm: I've saved the Trinity and nothing happens it just sits there
Title: Re: Sth I don't understand about FS2 cheats
Post by: Romanmolf on December 02, 2008, 01:54:38 pm: ??

Well... opss. Sorry.
Title: Re: Sth I don't understand about FS2 cheats
Post by: terran_emperor on December 02, 2008, 02:09:13 pm: Yes!

I had to kill the Trinity myself, to be allowed to continue the game. I think the Trinity is the only friendly you can kill and on get Traitor'd...I that or i used "¬" + "k" on it...can't remember which though
Title: Re: Sth I don't understand about FS2 cheats
Post by: Androgeos Exeunt on December 02, 2008, 09:19:14 pm: ~ + K destroys the Trinity and lets you get away with it. :drevil:
Title: Re: Sth I don't understand about FS2 cheats
Post by: Romanmolf on December 03, 2008, 07:32:40 am: Same with the darkest hour! :lol:
Title: Re: Sth I don't understand about FS2 cheats
Post by: azile0 on December 08, 2008, 02:30:20 pm: Yeah. Who doesn't want BFRs on their ship? Or the "Unknown Megabomb", even though it isn't that great. Although, the Armageddon in Inferno was fun to play with.
Title: Re: Sth I don't understand about FS2 cheats
Post by: Androgeos Exeunt on December 08, 2008, 06:39:20 pm: True. I tried it once, and the ship that got hit flew sideways into MY SHIP as it exploded. :lol:
Title: Re: Sth I don't understand about FS2 cheats
Post by: eliex on December 08, 2008, 08:49:47 pm: That effect even works on a installation bigger than the Arcadia to boot!
Title: Re: Sth I don't understand about FS2 cheats
Post by: ssmit132 on December 11, 2008, 04:48:26 am: Using the Armageddon on small ships is amusing. Here's to the power of mini black holes!
Title: Re: Sth I don't understand about FS2 cheats
Post by: Rodo on December 11, 2008, 05:04:54 am: Quote from: terran_emperor on December 02, 2008, 02:09:13 pm
Yes!

I had to kill the Trinity myself, to be allowed to continue the game. I think the Trinity is the only friendly you can kill and on get Traitor'd...I that or i used "¬" + "k" on it...can't remember which though

well the Trinity is never supposed to survive, though I don't understand why volition never included an autodestruct-sexp (it existed?.. I don't know) in order to prevent this kind of things... obviously the mission is well designed so that there's no way the Trinity survives and the mission can go on, but it should always be prevented when freding... I mean, it's like 1 or 2 hours more of freding to check everything that can possibly frack your mission... it's not that hard, and everyone will agree with me that finding yourself in the middle of a great campaign and stumbling upon this kind of bugs will get your mood for playing it to the ground.
Title: Re: Sth I don't understand about FS2 cheats
Post by: Romanmolf on December 11, 2008, 07:01:35 am: Did you know...

After activating cheats you can use time compression BACKWARDS!
Title: Re: Sth I don't understand about FS2 cheats
Post by: Stormkeeper on December 11, 2008, 07:02:59 am: I think A.E mentioned it a page back.
Title: Re: Sth I don't understand about FS2 cheats
Post by: Romanmolf on December 11, 2008, 07:46:16 am: Yes, you're right. Pretty fancy, don't you think?
Title: Re: Sth I don't understand about FS2 cheats
Post by: Rodo on December 11, 2008, 08:02:32 am: Quote from: Romanmolf on December 11, 2008, 07:46:16 am
Yes, you're right. Pretty fancy, don't you think?

have you played transcend?

play the final mission... you'll see how much fun can it be to use weird sexps the right way.
Title: Re: Sth I don't understand about FS2 cheats
Post by: KappaWing on December 11, 2008, 02:13:17 pm: Quote from: Rodo on December 11, 2008, 05:04:54 am
[snip]everyone will agree with me that finding yourself in the middle of a great campaign and stumbling upon this kind of bugs will get your mood for playing it to the ground.

Its not a bug if its the result of cheats. As a FREDder of any mission with depth and complexity, you have to assume a vast amount of actions to be impossible that would only be possible with cheats.

I only use cheats on ridiculously poorly balanced campaigns, and when testing of course.
Title: Re: Sth I don't understand about FS2 cheats
Post by: eliex on December 11, 2008, 02:40:36 pm: Quote from: Rodo on December 11, 2008, 08:02:32 am
play the final mission... you'll see how much fun can it be to use weird sexps the right way.

You mean second to last? I first thought my computer was breaking when my maxims starting firing slowly . . . slower . . . . . . slower. Still, it was a really interesting effect. :)
Title: Re: Sth I don't understand about FS2 cheats
Post by: Rodo on December 11, 2008, 03:12:21 pm: Quote from: eliex on December 11, 2008, 02:40:36 pm
You mean second to last? I first thought my computer was breaking when my maxims starting firing slowly . . . slower . . . . . . slower. Still, it was a really interesting effect. :)

well.. yes, actually the second to last, I didn't even remember the last one because of the fact that it's
Spoiler:
the same mission than that the first one

Quote from: KappaWing on December 11, 2008, 02:13:17 pm
Its not a bug if its the result of cheats. As a FREDder of any mission with depth and complexity, you have to assume a vast amount of actions to be impossible that would only be possible with cheats.

of course, just making a point about that you can find a good quantity of badly freded missions, and that's what I was referring to, the type of freding :v: did is remarcable and accurate, but of course, they did it with money (and I'm guessing time) so those missions were destined to be a good quality ones.
I wish I had time to get some missions and some backgrounds done... I'm waiting for the end of the year so I can devote myself to this a little more :D
Title: Re: Sth I don't understand about FS2 cheats
Post by: Romanmolf on December 12, 2008, 08:16:07 am: I accidentally read the spoiler! :lol:
Title: Re: Sth I don't understand about FS2 cheats
Post by: Rodo on December 12, 2008, 08:55:27 am: Quote from: Romanmolf on December 12, 2008, 08:16:07 am
I accidentally read the spoiler! :lol:

it's not a problem if you already played through the campaign.
Title: Re: Sth I don't understand about FS2 cheats
Post by: Romanmolf on December 13, 2008, 11:41:44 am: I'm doing that right now.
Title: Re: Sth I don't understand about FS2 cheats
Post by: Mobius on December 13, 2008, 11:53:01 am: I'm more than proud of the fact that I've never used cheats other than the one showing the entire ship/weapon/intelligence list.
Title: Re: Sth I don't understand about FS2 cheats
Post by: Droid803 on December 13, 2008, 12:20:52 pm: That's a cheat? I thought that was just for campaign debugging or something...
Then again, most of the cheats ARE most useful for debugging missions.
Title: Re: Sth I don't understand about FS2 cheats
Post by: Mobius on December 13, 2008, 12:30:28 pm: That's a cheat that enables you to read the description of stuff you wouldn't know about by default, like certain ship classes, intelligence info or weapons. It's not a cheat like the others, though.
Title: Re: Sth I don't understand about FS2 cheats
Post by: Romanmolf on December 13, 2008, 12:48:18 pm: Yes, I have heard of it. You type ''fs2standalone'' or something.
Title: Re: Sth I don't understand about FS2 cheats
Post by: Jeff Vader on December 13, 2008, 12:52:45 pm: lolwut

No, I think Mobius is referring to the classic Ctrl-Shift-S trick.
Title: Re: Sth I don't understand about FS2 cheats
Post by: Romanmolf on December 13, 2008, 01:16:26 pm: Then what does ''fs2standalone'' do?
Title: Re: Sth I don't understand about FS2 cheats
Post by: Jeff Vader on December 13, 2008, 01:20:50 pm: Well, first of all, it seems to be "freespacestandsalone". Then, http://letmegooglethatforyou.com/?q=freespacestandsalone

Sorry. Had to do that at least once.
Title: Re: Sth I don't understand about FS2 cheats
Post by: Snail on December 13, 2008, 01:21:10 pm: Reveals all cutscenes.
Title: Re: Sth I don't understand about FS2 cheats
Post by: Droid803 on December 13, 2008, 01:26:58 pm: Oohh...that's useful :P
Title: Re: Sth I don't understand about FS2 cheats
Post by: Romanmolf on December 16, 2008, 07:59:38 am: It is indeed.