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Title: Where to download FS2 ILLEGALLY (**** GOG)?!?!12
Post by: Melkor on December 04, 2008, 02:38:40 pm

I cant get FS2 to install/work properly on my pc
can someone give me a working link for freespace 2 that works?  :confused: :confused:
Title: Re: Fs2 Doesn't seem to be working
Post by: Mobius on December 04, 2008, 02:50:10 pm
:welcomesilver:

Aiya Melkor! :D

Can you please write here more info? Did you simply DL files using the FreeSpace Open Installer or you have a copy of FS2 and want to install the upgrades?

Root files have been removed from mod packs so the only way to get them is to buy FreeSpace 2 from Good old Games(GoG), which is a handy site.
Title: Re: Fs2 Doesn't seem to be working
Post by: Melkor on December 04, 2008, 03:03:36 pm
:welcomesilver:

Aiya Melkor! :D

Can you please write here more info? Did you simply DL files using the FreeSpace Open Installer or you have a copy of FS2 and want to install the upgrades?

Root files have been removed from mod packs so the only way to get them is to buy FreeSpace 2 from Good old Games(GoG), which is a handy site.


About 6 months ago i downloaded the latest (at that time) version of the same installer,
i ran the installer and everything worked perfectly and I completed the game easily
but unfortunately, due to unforeseen circumstances, a rather messed up mod which I downloaded wrecked the entire game on my PC

I recently downloaded the latest version of Fs2 open installer from a random website,
i have tried this a number of times on different websites but it has not worked on all these occasions

I have, unsuccessfully, spent ages trying to get it to work, as it is the best game i have ever played

Title: Re: Fs2 Doesn't seem to be working
Post by: Daniel P on December 04, 2008, 03:04:55 pm
Did you select all the required files to run freespace 2
Title: Re: Fs2 Doesn't seem to be working
Post by: Mobius on December 04, 2008, 03:06:52 pm
What was the mod you've been using?

Also, did you overwrite the old FS2 folder? I'm afraid you got rid of vital root files in the process. The best thing would be to post  a screenshot of your FS2 folder, showing its subfolders and VP files. :)
Title: Re: Fs2 Doesn't seem to be working
Post by: Melkor on December 04, 2008, 03:11:42 pm
I used quite a large number of mods, i can't recall which it was
I think I added files for a huge Corvette just before it stopped working
Title: Re: Fs2 Doesn't seem to be working
Post by: Jeff Vader on December 04, 2008, 03:14:34 pm
http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/topic,47640.0.html

Turey's FSO Installer doesn't download the retail FS2 files anymore.

If you've acquired your FS2 from a shady source, you're on your own.
Title: Re: Fs2 Doesn't seem to be working
Post by: General Battuta on December 04, 2008, 03:19:21 pm
It sounds like you used the installer back when it provided the full game for free.

You now need to purchase the full FS2 from GoodOldGames (supporting the success of Freespace, I might add) and then run the installer over it.
Title: Re: Fs2 Doesn't seem to be working
Post by: Melkor on December 04, 2008, 03:20:13 pm
http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/topic,47640.0.html

Turey's FSO Installer doesn't download the retail FS2 files anymore.

If you've acquired your FS2 from a shady source, you're on your own.

 :mad: :mad: :mad:
Well that's helpful?
 :mad: :mad: :mad:

It sounds like you used the installer back when it provided the full game for free.

You now need to purchase the full FS2 from GoodOldGames (supporting the success of Freespace, I might add) and then run the installer over it.

Thanks, thats about the 1st useful reply to this post
Title: Re: Fs2 Doesn't seem to be working
Post by: Jeff Vader on December 04, 2008, 03:26:37 pm
http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/topic,47640.0.html

Turey's FSO Installer doesn't download the retail FS2 files anymore.

If you've acquired your FS2 from a shady source, you're on your own.

 :mad: :mad: :mad:
Well that's helpful?
 :mad: :mad: :mad:
If you bothered to chekc the link, you'd see instructions for installing FSO. Then, if you read the second line, you'll find out that FSO needs FS2 in order to function. And FS2 is not downloaded by the Installer. Anymore. Because we have Good Old Games who are doing one of the most wonderful things known to man: distributing classic games, such as FreeSpace 2, for more than fair prices. Legally.

Then, it would be appropriate to mention that you wouldn't be in this mess had you used judgement when installing mods back when you did that. Keep them in mod folders. Do not touch \freespace2\data ever, no matter who says what. And particularly, if there was a single mod that messed up your FreeSpace, removing it would have solved the problem.
Title: Re: Fs2 Doesn't seem to be working
Post by: Melkor on December 04, 2008, 03:43:47 pm
http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/topic,47640.0.html

Turey's FSO Installer doesn't download the retail FS2 files anymore.

If you've acquired your FS2 from a shady source, you're on your own.

 :mad: :mad: :mad:
Well that's helpful?
 :mad: :mad: :mad:
If you bothered to chekc the link, you'd see instructions for installing FSO. Then, if you read the second line, you'll find out that FSO needs FS2 in order to function. And FS2 is not downloaded by the Installer. Anymore. Because we have Good Old Games who are doing one of the most wonderful things known to man: distributing classic games, such as FreeSpace 2, for more than fair prices. Legally.

Then, it would be appropriate to mention that you wouldn't be in this mess had you used judgement when installing mods back when you did that. Keep them in mod folders. Do not touch \freespace2\data ever, no matter who says what. And particularly, if there was a single mod that messed up your FreeSpace, removing it would have solved the problem.

I did bother to check it and it seems to me that all i have learned from this, is that i need to buy from GoG and then repeat the same steps that I have already been trying.
and might i point out that, apart from the link, the rest of your comment seemed to me to be a poor judgement of my choice to attempt to download FS2 of a different source, which I do not consider to be "Shady" I have downloaded many things from this site and, illegal or not, it is extremely useful

I do not need other people to tell me what is so painfully obvious that it makes them look stupid for bothering to tell me about it,
"you wouldn't be in this mess had you used judgement when installing mods back when you did that",
dont you think that this is now completely and totally obvious to me?

And also, you spelt "check" wrong
Title: Re: Fs2 Doesn't seem to be working
Post by: Jeff Vader on December 04, 2008, 03:46:20 pm
kk. Just that since GOG is providing FS2 for $5.99, people at HLP don't really appreciate those who download it illegally.
Title: Re: Fs2 Doesn't seem to be working
Post by: Melkor on December 04, 2008, 03:52:51 pm
kk. Just that since GOG is providing FS2 for $5.99, people at HLP don't really appreciate those who download it illegally.

I appreciate your point, But unfortunatley for those with a huge conscience :mad2: :mad2:, I will always get things illegaly if it makes it any easier ;7
Title: Re: Fs2 Doesn't seem to be working
Post by: Herra Tohtori on December 04, 2008, 04:18:46 pm
can someone give me a working link for freespace 2 that works?  :confused: :confused:


Department of Redundancy Department might be able to help you with a working link that works... However you won't find a link to FS2 download from HLP due to reasons already explained.


However, if you haven't completely nuked your FS2 folder (a questionable thing to do in the first place seeing you didn't have any install media backed up), there is still hope.

If you still have the following files somewhere in your hard drive, you can easily use them as the root files for a new FS2 installation:

root_fs2.vp
smarty_fs2.vp
sparky_fs2.vp
sparky_hi_fs2.vp
stu_fs2.vp
tango1_fs2.vp
tango2_fs2.vp
tango3_fs2.vp
warble_fs2.vp


Those are the retail VP files and they are, in nutshell, the only files you need to have in order to make a functional FS2_Open install directory.

So, if you have them, you can get the rest via Turey's installer. If not, you need to aquire them. Buying the retail FS2 game is the only officially sanctioned way to do that. The files used to be accessible via Turey's installer because legally aquiring FS2 was, for a long time, a daunting task to complete since there's a limited number of physical copies available and copies weren't sold in downloadable form - until GoodOldGames came into the picture and started offering FS2 online with a very acceptable price, so people are just pointed there.

If you decide to... aquire the files some other way, we seriously don't want to know how you go about it. It's none of our business and we would rather you didn't tell. Partly because most people here think that FS2 is an awesome game and few odd bucks isn't a bad price for it, and partly because of plausible deniability (and it's just generally stupid to advertise your illegal capacities and tendencies anywhere, even in the net - you aren't as incognito in the tubes as you might think). Just aquire the files as your conscience tells you is good and right and come back when you have them, one way or nother. Until then, we can't help you.


And, in future, it's a good rule of thumb to never ever put any extra files at all in the main ..\FreeSpace2\ or ..\FreeSpace2\data\*\ directories. It's far better to maange additional materials with mod folders, which basically make it impossible to dysfunctionalize your basic FS2 installation, which will become a matter of importance when you get the basic game functional, so go and find/get those files I listed before there can be any additional instructions.


EDIT: Also, your signature thingy occupies obscene amount of vertical space, so you might want to reconstruct it in a more horizontally aligned fashion.
Title: Re: Fs2 Doesn't seem to be working
Post by: Melkor on December 04, 2008, 04:45:37 pm
Firstly I will congratulate you for making an even longer dragged out speech to explain your point than even I managed to, I have NEVER and will NEVER say that I am downloading illegally, I did not say that earlier, i merely stated that I don't care about other people's opinion on this topic and that it is my choice who I download from.

The next reason that I am Currently unwilling to purchase Fs2 Is that,  I am Irish (therefore I don't use dollars, this makes buying from GoG more difficult and, therefore, time consuming)

Secondly, I feel no need to listen to endless droning explanations of what to do with different files DO YOU THINK THAT I ACTUALLY CARE? I have a very short attention span.
You seem to have attained the idea that I have a false sense of security about being on the internet, I do not, I simply do not care if my views are strongly expressed on the internet, I did not claim to be illegally downloading FS2, I just stated that I do not personally disagree withpeople using these means to obtain software

I will finish by stating that I am sick of people criticising my actions on matters involving FS2 files and Mods,
If you aren't going to be helpful, please stay out of my conversations.

P.S "Also, your signature thingy occupies obscene amount of vertical space, so you might want to reconstruct it in a more horizontally aligned fashion."< I Personally aligned my signature this way so that it would stand out
Title: Re: Fs2 Doesn't seem to be working
Post by: General Battuta on December 04, 2008, 04:50:54 pm
Firstly I will congratulate you for making an even longer dragged out speech to explain your point than even I managed to, I have NEVER and will NEVER say that I am downloading illegally, I did not say that earlier, i merely stated that I don't care about other people's opinion on this topic and that it is my choice who I download from.

The next reason that I am Currently unwilling to purchase Fs2 Is that,  I am Irish (therefore I don't use dollars, this makes buying from GoG more difficult and, therefore, time consuming)

Secondly, I feel no need to listen to endless droning explanations of what to do with different files DO YOU THINK THAT I ACTUALLY CARE? I have a very short attention span.
You seem to have attained the idea that I have a false sense of security about being on the internet, I do not, I simply do not care if my views are strongly expressed on the internet, I did not claim to be illegally downloading FS2, I just stated that I do not personally disagree withpeople using these means to obtain software

I will finish by stating that I am sick of people criticising my actions on matters involving FS2 files and Mods,
If you aren't going to be helpful, please stay out of my conversations.

P.S "Also, your signature thingy occupies obscene amount of vertical space, so you might want to reconstruct it in a more horizontally aligned fashion."< I Personally aligned my signature this way so that it would stand out

Ease up, Melkor, they're just trying to help.

You will have to realign your signature, it's forum policy.
Title: Re: Fs2 Doesn't seem to be working
Post by: Jeff Vader on December 04, 2008, 04:53:35 pm
My my. No need to get hostile, Melkor.

I have NEVER and will NEVER say that I am downloading illegally, I did not say that earlier,
Uh...
I will always get things illegaly if it makes it any easier ;7
I guess this part had some other meaning to it.


Secondly, I feel no need to listen to endless droning explanations of what to do with different files DO YOU THINK THAT I ACTUALLY CARE?
Having at least a rough idea on which file does what cannot be harmful in any way.

I have a very short attention span.
Oh, good. I was starting to think that Titan's custom title should be removed or given to someone else.

I will finish by stating that I am sick of people criticising my actions on matters involving FS2 files and Mods,
If you aren't going to be helpful, please stay out of my conversations.
Well, telling you something about FS2 files and mods is a crucial part of the helping process. We cannot help you unless we explain something about the files (or ask about your FS files).

I Personally aligned my signature this way so that it would stand out
Be that as it may, high signatures don't "stand out" as much as they irritate. I'm giving a friendly suggestion to you to rearrange it to be not-so-high. Or I suppose we can wait for the administrators to do that as well.
Title: Re: Fs2 Doesn't seem to be working
Post by: Melkor on December 04, 2008, 05:07:34 pm
Might I point out that by saying that I will do it if it makes it easier, does not openly claim that I have ever done it and, therefore, what I stated earlier does not mean what you claim.

"Well, telling you something about FS2 files and mods is a crucial part of the helping process. We cannot help you unless we explain something about the files (or ask about your FS files)."---- I was not talking about that, I was talking about Quotes like these "Then, it would be appropriate to mention that you wouldn't be in this mess had you used judgement when installing mods back when you did that."< Use your common sense, Lecturing me about what is painfully obvious will not help the situation at all

I will also mention this "I'm giving a friendly suggestion to you to rearrange it to be not-so-high. Or I suppose we can wait for the administrators to do that as well"< is this your business? I am about to rearrange it myself, it's not your concern.

"My my. No need to get hostile, Melkor."- I am always Hostile

And lastly the part that I wrote about other people needlessly criticising me was addressed at people who, like you,  who seem to give completely useless criticisms of what I say, It really is not needed.
Title: Re: Fs2 Doesn't seem to be working
Post by: Jeff Vader on December 04, 2008, 05:19:41 pm
Might I point out that by saying that I will do it if it makes it easier, does not openly claim that I have ever done it and, therefore, what I stated earlier does not mean what you claim.
K...

Lecturing me about what is painfully obvious will not help the situation at all
You gave the impression that it wasn't (painfully) obvious so I saw it necessary to revise a few things.

I am about to rearrange it myself, it's not your concern.
Perchance it isn't, but thank you.

I am always Hostile
That most certainly is your solution, but I can guarantee that your chances of getting help here are slim if you start yelling at the people who try to help you.

And lastly the part that I wrote about other people needlessly criticising me was addressed at people who, like you,  who seem to give completely useless criticisms of what I say, It really is not needed.
Well, as it has been discussed repeatedly, we'd appreciate if people who don't own FS2 yet would buy it from GOG.  Hardly needless criticism. Next, there was this thing about whether you've completely erased your FS2 or if you happened to have the necessary files to get things running quickly. Hardly needless criticism. Now, we're waiting to see whether your problem has been solved or not. If not, you know what to do and after you've done it, we can continue.

And also, you spelt "check" wrong
Sweet merciful crap!  :shaking: The Government OfficialsTM are bound to come over to my place and remove at least one limb because of that horrible mistake. I must flee! To exile!

A typo. Srsly.
Title: Re: Fs2 Doesn't seem to be working
Post by: Melkor on December 04, 2008, 05:29:29 pm
"You gave the impression that it wasn't (painfully) obvious so I saw it necessary to revise a few things."<<< perhaps, or maybe you are just obvious, mentally slow and predictable.

"That most certainly is your solution, but I can guarantee that your chances of getting help here are slim if you start yelling at the people who try to help you."< I have already got help from a competent FS2 user who put my problem into plain English



"Sweet merciful crap!   The Government OfficialsTM are bound to come over to my place and remove at least one limb because of that horrible mistake. I must flee! To exile!"<<< I was simply pointing that out!

"I am about to rearrange it myself, it's not your concern.

Perchance it isn't, but thank you."< I have already rearranged it, thank you

"Then, it would be appropriate to mention that you wouldn't be in this mess had you used judgement when installing mods back when you did that."< Is that helpful, needed advice?
Title: Re: Fs2 Doesn't seem to be working
Post by: General Battuta on December 04, 2008, 05:44:54 pm
Instead of your current format, please use the following tags:

<quote> and </quote>, replacing the <> symbols with [] open and close brackets.

For example:

Quote
This is a quote

You can hit 'insert quote' on someone else's post while replying in order to see how it's done.
Title: Re: Fs2 Doesn't seem to be working
Post by: chief1983 on December 04, 2008, 05:45:43 pm
If this wasn't GenDisc this would probably have been locked already.  It sounds like you know what you need to do in order to play now, are you guys just arguing for the sake of it, or do you still need any help Melkor?  Much to our chagrin, there seem to be places to find it if you really don't want to pay for it.  However, if you did take the effort to buy it legally, you'd be directly helping out the license owners, Interplay, as I believe GOG is the only true retailer for it at the moment.  Anyone else is just selling used copies that Interplay isn't reimbursed for any more.  But no one can stop you, we'd still rather have you playing it free than not playing it at all.
Title: Re: Fs2 Doesn't seem to be working
Post by: Melkor on December 04, 2008, 05:51:36 pm
If this wasn't GenDisc this would probably have been locked already.  It sounds like you know what you need to do in order to play now, are you guys just arguing for the sake of it, or do you still need any help Melkor?  Much to our chagrin, there seem to be places to find it if you really don't want to pay for it.  However, if you did take the effort to buy it legally, you'd be directly helping out the license owners, Interplay, as I believe GOG is the only true retailer for it at the moment.  Anyone else is just selling used copies that Interplay isn't reimbursed for any more.  But no one can stop you, we'd still rather have you playing it free than not playing it at all.

Thanks, But as I have already stated I dont currently have FS2-it got messed up, and i have no intention of illegally buying it
Title: Re: Fs2 Doesn't seem to be working
Post by: AlphaOne on December 04, 2008, 05:51:43 pm
Oh really so klet's see FS2 cost about an arm and a leg an another arm and a leg for me when i can find it. The last sticker price was about 28 Euro's which is what about 35-40 $ ! Get real im not spending that amount of money AGAIN on FS2 !

Bought it once exploded into my CD-ROM got it from the onlyne installer and there it shalremain Il save it on multiple copies of DVD's just to make sure. But i will NOT buy FS2 any time soon.

I'm too strapped for chash and as long as i can play FS2 and all these wonderfull mod's for free i see no reason to pay for the original game .

Should theevent happen when my HD will break and all the DVD's then il get if off the net and i still wont pay for it unless i can affod it.

I did my part payd for the game played it and loved it. Let someone else do its part.
Title: Re: Fs2 Doesn't seem to be working
Post by: Melkor on December 04, 2008, 05:57:52 pm
Oh really so klet's see FS2 cost about an arm and a leg an another arm and a leg for me when i can find it. The last sticker price was about 28 Euro's which is what about 35-40 $ ! Get real im not spending that amount of money AGAIN on FS2 !

Bought it once exploded into my CD-ROM got it from the onlyne installer and there it shalremain Il save it on multiple copies of DVD's just to make sure. But i will NOT buy FS2 any time soon.

I'm too strapped for chash and as long as i can play FS2 and all these wonderfull mod's for free i see no reason to pay for the original game .

Should theevent happen when my HD will break and all the DVD's then il get if off the net and i still wont pay for it unless i can affod it.

I did my part payd for the game played it and loved it. Let someone else do its part.



Thats Right, It costs me about £22 which is about $43 approx, thats if i can find it, I still have the problem that it is unavailable anywhere unless I am willing to put loads of time and effort into it, but I probably will eventually find a way to get it
Title: Re: Fs2 Doesn't seem to be working
Post by: AlphaOne on December 04, 2008, 06:03:05 pm
Well the problem is that when i found FS2 on sale it was a computer games and software shop some 6 hours train ride.


Ad to the price of the game the price of 2 train tickets and see how much that costs you ! Il just say this the total price raises by about 50% !

No they did not ship out ia mail or courier like that . don't really know why tough......

anyway mail taxes cost a bit so.......5 or 6 $ for FS2 ?? man if i had that available for me id buy 10 or 20 copies of the game and sold them and 3 times the price get  huge profit margin and support the game and best of all it would be cheaper then that gameshop i mentioned so i ould stick it to them.
Title: Re: Fs2 Doesn't seem to be working
Post by: Herra Tohtori on December 04, 2008, 06:04:26 pm
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This conversation can serve no purpose any more. Goodbye.
Title: Re: Fs2 Doesn't seem to be working
Post by: Goober5000 on December 04, 2008, 08:06:40 pm
Moved to the appropriate board.

Hi Melkor, I'm an admin.  And these nice forum members are trying to provide help.  Would you do them the courtesy of responding appropriately?

In case you missed this in the middle of all the other posts, the first thing you should do is to see if you have any of these files lying around anywhere:

root_fs2.vp
smarty_fs2.vp
sparky_fs2.vp
sparky_hi_fs2.vp
stu_fs2.vp
tango1_fs2.vp
tango2_fs2.vp
tango3_fs2.vp
warble_fs2.vp
Title: Re: Fs2 Doesn't seem to be working
Post by: Jeff Vader on December 05, 2008, 01:32:11 am
Thanks, But as I have already stated I dont currently have FS2-it got messed up, and i have no intention of illegally buying it
:wtf: lolwut

As we've been trying to say, buying from Good Old Games is legal. Very legal. That is exactly why we direct FreeSpace2-less people to their direction. So that they wouldn't have to download FreeSpace 2 illegally or buy it at extremely hihg prices from eBay.

This conversation can serve no purpose any more. Goodbye.
Agreed.

Melkor, for the last time: you want FS2. So, we've told you to buy it for $5.99 from GOG. That's all you're going to get from us. No one will post links to illegal downloads, under the penalty of immediate ban. If you are going to buy FS2 from GOG, excellent. Thank you. If you are going to download it illegally, go ahead but don't boast about it here.

Now, your question has been answered. Repeatedly. Good day.