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Title: OT: The Time Machine is A1-Supar!
Post by: Ace on March 09, 2002, 05:45:06 pm
Went to see that today, good movie ;) Cannibal Morlocks are the devil! :devil:
Title: OT: The Time Machine is A1-Supar!
Post by: Dr.Zer0 on March 09, 2002, 06:56:17 pm
When I first heard about it laughed my ass off just thinking of the name :D
Title: OT: The Time Machine is A1-Supar!
Post by: Zeronet on March 09, 2002, 07:05:27 pm
Sounds Dr Who to me.
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Post by: Stryke 9 on March 09, 2002, 07:40:28 pm
Sounds "Hollywood raping yet another good story, or at least an acceptable one" to me.
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Post by: Corsair on March 09, 2002, 08:07:25 pm
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Originally posted by Stryke 9
Sounds "Hollywood raping yet another good story, or at least an acceptable one" to me.

^ What he said
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Title: OT: The Time Machine is A1-Supar!
Post by: Setekh on March 09, 2002, 08:13:11 pm
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Originally posted by Stryke 9
Sounds "Hollywood raping yet another good story, or at least an acceptable one" to me.


I'll hope that it's good, but until I see it, this is what I'll be assuming...
Title: OT: The Time Machine is A1-Supar!
Post by: ZylonBane on March 09, 2002, 08:47:32 pm
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Originally posted by Dr.Zer0
When I first heard about it laughed my ass off just thinking of the name :D
Which name? "Morlocks" or "The Time Machine"?
Title: OT: The Time Machine is A1-Supar!
Post by: Galemp on March 09, 2002, 08:52:12 pm
Anyone remember "Time after Time?" The one with H.G. Wells and Jack the Ripper?
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Post by: Dark_4ce on March 10, 2002, 05:15:35 am
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Originally posted by GalacticEmperor
Anyone remember "Time after Time?" The one with H.G. Wells and Jack the Ripper?


How can I forget. :headz:

I got one thing in that movie that always makes me laugh. I mean when he travels through time, thats all he does. He doesen't travel through space. So firstly, he wouldn't have been able to magically travel to the states and inside a museum where all his furniture was. I guess he had installed a furniture locator so that atleast where ever he goes, its near his furniture. Also another point about time travel, if you're stationary and traveling through space, but only time, that would mean in theory that the planet has kept going and you have stayed behind. So you would have to infact move in order to stay with the earth. Think about it, thats probably why there hasn't been many time travelers, they always end up popping like firecrackers in the deep of space. :D

Eek, I've gone all too scientific again...:sigh:  Oh well, it was an ok Disney movie.
I just hope this new one gives the story atleast some credit.
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Post by: Dr.Zer0 on March 10, 2002, 06:27:11 am
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Originally posted by Zeronet
Sounds Dr Who to me.


Exactly :)
Title: OT: The Time Machine is A1-Supar!
Post by: Ace on March 10, 2002, 11:39:04 am
Well the new one does give credit to just about every original rendition since the guy walks into some museum in the future and winds up talking to a smart ass librarian hologram type thing which is certain the time traveler is some sort of weirdo trekkie since he keeps on asking questions on time travel. (trying to find out if the people in the future know about it, why he can't change the past, etc.)
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Post by: CP5670 on March 10, 2002, 11:53:24 am
Never seen the movie, but the original book was great. :)
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Post by: mikhael on March 10, 2002, 12:01:24 pm
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Originally posted by Dark_4ce

Also another point about time travel, if you're stationary and traveling through space, but only time, that would mean in theory that the planet has kept going and you have stayed behind. So you would have to infact move in order to stay with the earth.


Pilot, you have failed 3+1D geometry.

Space-time coordinates are plotted on a 4d grid (XYZ+Theta). Your assumption is that by changing the Theta coordinate, we immediately lock the XYZ coordinates. This is patently false. No action taken in realspace can EVER lock out any sort of geometric translation along any axis.

Whilst our intrepid time traveller is altering his theta coordinate, he is not doing anything to affect his XYZ coordinates, either to change them or to freeze them. Gravity and inertia continue to apply. Thus, as the Earth continues to move around the sun, the sun around the center of the Milky Way, and the Milky Way continues its journey into the depths of the inkyblack, our time traveller is carried along. Gravity holds him to the planet. He moves neithre left nor right, forward nor back, up nor down, because he wasn't moving when he started moving forward or back in time. Inertia keeps him in place. He was at rest with respect to the world upon which he sat, and he will continue to remain at rest upon the world upon which he sat until an outside force acts upon him.
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Post by: WarpStar on March 10, 2002, 12:12:07 pm
Haven't seen it yet, want to get there soon :)  Hollywood doesn't rape stories, it mutilates them :D
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Post by: WarpStar on March 10, 2002, 12:15:03 pm
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Originally posted by mikhael


Pilot, you have failed 3+1D geometry.

Space-time coordinates are plotted on a 4d grid (XYZ+Theta). Your assumption is that by changing the Theta coordinate, we immediately lock the XYZ coordinates. This is patently false. No action taken in realspace can EVER lock out any sort of geometric translation along any axis.

Whilst our intrepid time traveller is altering his theta coordinate, he is not doing anything to affect his XYZ coordinates, either to change them or to freeze them. Gravity and inertia continue to apply. Thus, as the Earth continues to move around the sun, the sun around the center of the Milky Way, and the Milky Way continues its journey into the depths of the inkyblack, our time traveller is carried along. Gravity holds him to the planet. He moves neithre left nor right, forward nor back, up nor down, because he wasn't moving when he started moving forward or back in time. Inertia keeps him in place. He was at rest with respect to the world upon which he sat, and he will continue to remain at rest upon the world upon which he sat until an outside force acts upon him.


Makes you wonder when the bank came to repossess his house :)
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Post by: delta_7890 on March 10, 2002, 12:25:51 pm
Believe it or not, time travel is possible.  However, until we can make craft that can move at the speed of light, we'll be unable to realize its potential.  :D
Title: OT: The Time Machine is A1-Supar!
Post by: Stunaep on March 10, 2002, 01:46:25 pm
Damn, the movie won't be here, in this beautiful middle of nowhere for about 2-4 months. I could really use a time machine about now.
Title: OT: The Time Machine is A1-Supar!
Post by: Dark_4ce on March 10, 2002, 02:32:20 pm
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Originally posted by mikhael


Pilot, you have failed 3+1D geometry.

Space-time coordinates are plotted on a 4d grid (XYZ+Theta). Your assumption is that by changing the Theta coordinate, we immediately lock the XYZ coordinates. This is patently false. No action taken in realspace can EVER lock out any sort of geometric translation along any axis.

Whilst our intrepid time traveller is altering his theta coordinate, he is not doing anything to affect his XYZ coordinates, either to change them or to freeze them. Gravity and inertia continue to apply. Thus, as the Earth continues to move around the sun, the sun around the center of the Milky Way, and the Milky Way continues its journey into the depths of the inkyblack, our time traveller is carried along. Gravity holds him to the planet. He moves neithre left nor right, forward nor back, up nor down, because he wasn't moving when he started moving forward or back in time. Inertia keeps him in place. He was at rest with respect to the world upon which he sat, and he will continue to remain at rest upon the world upon which he sat until an outside force acts upon him.


Ok...:snipe:

Didn't think of that! :D
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Post by: Corsair on March 10, 2002, 05:30:07 pm
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Originally posted by mikhael
Pilot, you have failed 3+1D geometry.

Space-time coordinates are plotted on a 4d grid (XYZ+Theta). Your assumption is that by changing the Theta coordinate, we immediately lock the XYZ coordinates. This is patently false. No action taken in realspace can EVER lock out any sort of geometric translation along any axis.

Whilst our intrepid time traveller is altering his theta coordinate, he is not doing anything to affect his XYZ coordinates, either to change them or to freeze them. Gravity and inertia continue to apply. Thus, as the Earth continues to move around the sun, the sun around the center of the Milky Way, and the Milky Way continues its journey into the depths of the inkyblack, our time traveller is carried along. Gravity holds him to the planet. He moves neithre left nor right, forward nor back, up nor down, because he wasn't moving when he started moving forward or back in time. Inertia keeps him in place. He was at rest with respect to the world upon which he sat, and he will continue to remain at rest upon the world upon which he sat until an outside force acts upon him.

I'm confused...:confused:
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Post by: Setekh on March 10, 2002, 07:49:50 pm
Mmmmminertia. ;)

Speaking of which, I just realised that Australia (media-backward country that we are) isn't going to get this movie at least for a few months. There goes all hopes of keeping in step with you guys. ;)
Title: OT: The Time Machine is A1-Supar!
Post by: Bobboau on March 11, 2002, 01:02:36 am
ya but what about the fact that matter (out of his bubble) doesn't seem to effect him while he is in transet, if he didn't have his XYZ locked then if there is some sort of material phaseing that makes him and his machine invisable and (insert smart souning word that means stuff can pass through him) to the rest of the world why doesn't he sink to the core of the earth, if there isn't then he would be visable to people outside of his bubble, and thus there should be a large croud gathering around him almost imidiatly and everyone would know about him and he'd probly get killed by a gnat moving at the relitive volosity of the speed of light (not literaly, just mean realy fast)
Title: OT: The Time Machine is A1-Supar!
Post by: Zeronet on March 11, 2002, 01:11:16 am
His machine is out of phase?
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Post by: Setekh on March 11, 2002, 01:28:55 am
Out of phase? Man, someone's gotta explain that to me. From what I've seen, 'out of phase' can mean just about anything. ;)
Title: OT: The Time Machine is A1-Supar!
Post by: Bobboau on March 11, 2002, 01:35:12 am
you know so stuff can pass through it, I was useing ST technobable sorry