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Title: Wherefore art thou, Petrarch?
Post by: KappaWing on December 13, 2008, 04:26:06 pm
Quote from: Shakespeare
"There are more things in heaven and earth (Horatio), then are dreamt of in your philosophy" ~Hamlet: AI SV

I just read this part in Hamlet the other day. Caught my attention for sure! I always thought this quote stuck out oddly in Petrarch's monologue, since it wasn't well integrated and it pointed to an otherwise unmentioned audience, but now that I understand the context of the original quote, I see it was a cool thing to do.

Are there any other Shakespeare references in Freespace 2? Names, situations, or other allusions?
Title: Re: Wherefore art thou, Petrarch?
Post by: Mobius on December 13, 2008, 04:28:55 pm
Fortunately not, I hope. :p
Title: Re: Wherefore art thou, Petrarch?
Post by: Snail on December 13, 2008, 04:29:57 pm
Well... Two cruisers might be named after the two brothers in the Scottish Play I think. The Melchom (Malcolm) and the Bane (Donalbain). They appear alongside each other, so it could be possible it drew inspiration from the Scottish Play.
Title: Re: Wherefore art thou, Petrarch?
Post by: Droid803 on December 13, 2008, 05:03:58 pm
I liked how they used that quote - it was very well done.

Also - It's Macbeth! My only superstition is against having superstitions.
Title: Re: Wherefore art thou, Petrarch?
Post by: MT on December 14, 2008, 08:55:23 am
I liked how they used that quote - it was very well done.

Also - It's Macbeth! My only superstition is against having superstitions.

 Aaah! "Hot potato, orchestra stalls, Puck will make amends." Aaah-haa!
Title: Re: Wherefore art thou, Petrarch?
Post by: Polpolion on December 14, 2008, 10:15:59 am
Hey, didn't we used to have a stickied thread here where people tried to do this stuff for the entire campaign? I think I'd like to try and restart that.
Title: Re: Wherefore art thou, Petrarch?
Post by: karajorma on December 14, 2008, 12:25:06 pm
Singh started one.  I don't think he got very far though. What he had was in depth but he only covered the first 3-4 missions IIRC.
Title: Re: Wherefore art thou, Petrarch?
Post by: Polpolion on December 14, 2008, 02:22:18 pm
Do you have a link to it? I'll see what he has and see if I can start something up like that on my own.

Actually, if anyone wants to help, we can divide up the campaign and go through it.
Title: Re: Wherefore art thou, Petrarch?
Post by: Mobius on March 01, 2009, 12:40:49 pm
:bump:

Where's that thread by Singh? I remember it, but I don't remember its title.


What he had was in depth but he only covered the first 3-4 missions IIRC.

Yeah...I remember that it was short and covered stuff like a RL ship whose name was Impervious (the NTC Impervious might have been inspired by it).
Title: Re: Wherefore art thou, Petrarch?
Post by: Mongoose on March 01, 2009, 02:56:30 pm
I've deleted two completely off-topic posts spurred on by yet another misuse of that goddamn necrothreadage beam.  I'm seriously considering recommending to the greater powers that be that anyone using that beam inappropriately receive a swift ban; at the very least, I'd love to see it banished to the pits of hell from whence it came.

Now, much more on-topic, I remember that thread too, but I also couldn't remember its name.  Thankfully, the search function managed to be useful for once, and I stumbled across these two (http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/topic,35225.0.html) threads (http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/topic,35521.0.html) that I think fit the description.
Title: Re: Wherefore art thou, Petrarch?
Post by: Galemp on March 01, 2009, 06:40:45 pm
Sheesh. It's from DECEMBER. Not a necro. If it's more than 18 months then yes, it's a necro. Tone it down, guys.

Mongoose, thanks for the links and for contributing to the thread.
Title: Re: Wherefore art thou, Petrarch?
Post by: Polpolion on March 01, 2009, 07:54:27 pm
Thanks for the links! If I get some free time, I'll try and analyze some more missions, but until then, I'll leave those threads where they are.
Title: Re: Wherefore art thou, Petrarch?
Post by: Nissan on March 04, 2009, 12:40:15 am
This is kinda unrelated, but I just remembered something.  Shakespeare was famous for writing dozens (hundreds?) of sonnets, and in literature, they classify sonnets based on the rhyme scheme.  There's three major types: Shakespearean, Spenserian, and... Petrarchan, named after Francesco Petrarch.

It's kind of a vague connection, so I'm guessing that's more a coincidence than anything, but it's still pretty neat.

(yay for 10th grade Brit Lit)
Title: Re: Wherefore art thou, Petrarch?
Post by: Lucika on March 04, 2009, 10:42:51 am
I've read somewhere that the first letters of the last 13 lines of the original version (never read it in English) of Hamlet read together is a statement "I am gay" - or sg with the same meaning. Is that true?
Title: Re: Wherefore art thou, Petrarch?
Post by: Charismatic on March 04, 2009, 12:41:58 pm
Freespace 3: Shakesphers revenge
Title: Re: Wherefore art thou, Petrarch?
Post by: General Battuta on March 04, 2009, 03:59:01 pm
Shakesphere?
Title: Re: Wherefore art thou, Petrarch?
Post by: Rick James on March 04, 2009, 08:00:36 pm
Shakesphere?

I sense an idea for a new superweapon coming on.
Title: Re: Wherefore art thou, Petrarch?
Post by: Droid803 on March 04, 2009, 08:07:47 pm
Planet-quake weapon?
Title: Re: Wherefore art thou, Petrarch?
Post by: Killer Whale on March 05, 2009, 01:32:24 am
Light through yonder window breaks out with an awesome beam.
Title: Re: Wherefore art thou, Petrarch?
Post by: Kie99 on March 10, 2009, 07:25:21 pm
Christ there is so much bollocks talked in this forum, desperate attempts to be funny from people who quite clearly aren't.

:bump:

Where's that thread by Singh? I remember it, but I don't remember its title.


What he had was in depth but he only covered the first 3-4 missions IIRC.

Yeah...I remember that it was short and covered stuff like a RL ship whose name was Impervious (the NTC Impervious might have been inspired by it).

Here are the two threads in which Singh did reserach into "Fs2's vast depths"

http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/topic,35521.0.html
http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/topic,35225.0.html
Title: Re: Wherefore art thou, Petrarch?
Post by: Lucika on March 11, 2009, 01:17:33 am
Sorry for the silly question, but what does the "v" stand for in NTCv?
Title: Re: Wherefore art thou, Petrarch?
Post by: Nosreteparod on March 11, 2009, 01:30:40 am
Capital "C" usually stands for "Cruiser", but "Cv" stands for Corvette. Other conventions are "Fr" for freighter, and (non-canonically) "Fg" for frigate.

Calling it a GTC Deimos would be an insult to the ship.
Title: Re: Wherefore art thou, Petrarch?
Post by: Lucika on March 11, 2009, 03:39:29 am
Thx
Title: Re: Wherefore art thou, Petrarch?
Post by: redsniper on March 11, 2009, 12:16:03 pm
Christ there is so much bollocks talked in this forum, desperate attempts to be funny from people who quite clearly aren't.
You're just afraid of the Shakesphere. :p