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Community Projects => The FreeSpace Upgrade Project => Topic started by: Charismatic on December 15, 2008, 10:44:08 pm
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I need a guide to help me get from the last SCP main release, to the version 3.6.10 (the new version).
1) What folders\VP's\Files to I deleite?
I had a fresh install of FS2, then I think i did a auto installer, to get me to 3.6.9, which downloaded VP's, cutseenes, campaigns, and all that good jazz.
2) How do i get all that stuff uninstalled to install 3.6.10?
3) And, can i leave the campaigns and play them in 3.6.10 (I assume yes, but just to be sure)?
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You don't technically need to delete anything, but you will be using a new executable, and new MediaVPs, and a new FSPort if you wanted that. So I would rename your current mediavps folder to something else, or move it or something, and put the new MediaVPs in a folder called mediavps. Put the latest nightly build of the SCP in your main directory alongside your 3.6.9 builds. Change the build in the launcher. If you want the FSPort, do the same for its folder, back it up and put the new Port files in a folder called fsport. If you want the Port MediaVPs put them in their own fsportmediavps folder, and select it as the mod when you play. You can play the port without mediavps then by just selecting the fsport folder instead.
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1) What folders\VP's\Files to I deleite?
As it was said, no need for specifically deleting stuff, but just to be on the safe side, move your current \mediavps\ folder somewhere else and create an empty one to \freespace2\.
2) How do i get all that stuff uninstalled to install 3.6.10?
See previous part about handling your MediaVPs. As for the FSO builds, you can have as many as you want in your \freespace2\ folder, because you'll use the Launcher to select the build you want to use.
3) And, can i leave the campaigns and play them in 3.6.10 (I assume yes, but just to be sure)?
Your assumption is correct, as long as all your mods and campaigns are in their own subfolders and not directly in \freespace2\.
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Well in order to save space, and keep my overcrouded FS2 folder clean ... i want to remove the 3.6.9 build and its media VP's...especially if mk 10, has its own.
What do i delite?
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You have to delete your 3.6.8z mediavps (all the mediavps in your mediavps folder if you haven't got the 3.6.10 mediavps yet), and all your 3.6.9 builds.
Then get the latest Nightly build for your OS, and stick the 3.6.10 mediavps into your old mediavps folder.
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Yeah anything I said to back up you would just delete instead.
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Waitwaitwait.
You're using the FSO installer?
Run it again. It will update everything for you.
That's all.
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...does the FSOInstaller remove old files from FreeSpace2\mediavps\ ? :nervous:
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Well to be fair, i think i used several installers. There was turneys, fso, and a 3.6.9 i think. I tried Turneys and maby the fso one.
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Actually it's remarkably easy to set up a clear FSOpen install directory. Just take the retail VP's into a directory, and either run FSOpen on that directory or manually add Launcher, FS2_Open build, mediavps and what ever mods you decide you need. Then run launcher, select the build, set up the settings and you're ready to go... assuming your hardware and drivers have no issues with FSO.
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What are the retail VP's?
**** it, ill upload a screenie of my dir.
Check back in a few.
EDIT:
Version 1(new) (http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l71/Ephili/desktop2.jpg)
Version 2http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l71/Ephili/desktop1.jpg (http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l71/Ephili/desktop1.jpg)
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WHAT THE ****!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111111111111
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Okay. Amusing as you may find that Charismatic, I'm afraid that unless a more intelligible screenshot of your DIR is provided, the only help I can offer you is a Toll Free Psychologist #.
Seriously, if you expect to receive a determined effort on our behalf in helping you, **** like that just is _not_ going to do a damn thing for you other than to be ignored. Or worse.
I would like to _ask_ if you would please replace the above image with a more practical or larger view of your Freespace2 dir before we resume any further troubleshooting for you.
Thank you.
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I thought some humor would be...humorous. But sence your so stiff, fine. But i cant make the text any larger. A screenie is a screenie.
EDIT: Why is photobucket resizing my pictures? I took a screenie, used paint, saved as jpg, and uploaded via photobucket. Nothing else. Photobucket is being retarted...
EDIT2: No seems to be full sized. How do i make it bigger for you? I tried to resize but it got blury any closer.
EDIT3: Aha, that works. Sorry guys, i thougth my origional upload (with the humor) you would be able to see as normally as i was able to. My apologies.
[attachment stolen by Slimey Goober]
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You're my hero. I'm sorry but I did find that funny, as much as it wasn't very useful towards helping you though.
Your attachment in the last post is fine, and really, I could pretty much make out the important stuff in version two anyway. You can get rid of the FS2MVECutscenepack.vp and the *.MVE files in that folder, since you have the FS2OggCutscenePack. Or keep the MVEpack and get rid of the Ogg one. They're the same movies, personal preference really.
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And it might help to actually have a 3.6.10 EXE in there somewhere. And unless that is the crappiest 3rd party theme for a mac or you have the folder shared to a mac or dual-boot into OSX, (even though they won't hurt anything being there) you don't need the *.dmg files either.
And it Also shouldn't be an issue, but by _default_ Freespace 2 installs to C:\Games\FreeSpace2\. The " SCP" part likely is not needed and there may be some retail registry entries that are using what it expects are the default values.
Just my .02, and thank you.
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Uh, if BSGtrl stands for "Beyond Star Galactica the Red Line", it would be preferrable to have it completely separate from your FS2 installation.
Other than that, you seem quite ready to jump to 3.6.10. Download the latest nightly build (for Windows), download Launcher 5.5d if you don't have it yet, empty your \mediavps\ folder, download the new MediaVPs and stick them to \mediavps\.
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Ok, so nuke my movies, and keep the ogg copy.
And unless that is the crappiest 3rd party theme for a mac or you have the folder shared to a mac or dual-boot into OSX, (even though they won't hurt anything being there) you don't need the *.dmg files either.
" SCP" part likely is not needed and there may be some retail registry entries that are using what it expects are the default values.
I use a windows XP. Do i still need the *.dmg files? And if i dont need them, why did the installers dubbly copy my movies, and give me .dmg files i dont need?
Well, i saved a backup default copy of FS2 in the FS2 directory. Then the SCP stuff on the *scp directory. IF anything gets ****ed up, i just deleite, and copy.
And Lobo: Its an exe file. I didnt install it yet. Not sure if i will or not. I have most of the campaigns to go though still. Havent beat derilect yet.
And just to make sure, can anyone else confirm that i need to delite the .dmg files?
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Well Turey's FSO Installer gives you whatever you check including Mac and Linux builds if you want them. Or they may have come with another installer you used. I'm guessing that's how you got three copies of the movies too, each installer probably got a different set.
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I use a windows XP. Do i still need the *.dmg files?
No. No.
No.
They are not for Windows. You can't even use them. If you want to keep them, keep them. But the absolute truth is that they are useless to you.
And Lobo: Its an exe file. I didnt install it yet. Not sure if i will or not.
If you do, remember that, assuming it's BtRL, it's a total conversion and more importantly a standalone. Do not install it to your \freespace2\ folder.
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Ah, standalone, like when i played Inferno. Ok, ill start working on all that now. Tonight i should get 3.6.10
EDIT: Ok, what are the vanilla FS2 VP's? I know some but not sure on all of them. I wont delite any VP's (beyond the movie cutscene ones, which are gone now) till i know which ones are default FS2, and which ones came with the 3.6.9 build.
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vps from my FS2 installation (with size):
FS2OGGcutscenepack.vp 263640995
multi-mission-pack.vp 5774914
multi-voice-pack.vp 23678622
root_fs2.vp 6404494
smarty_fs2.vp 123125814
sparky_fs2.vp 260563452
sparky_hi_fs2.vp 265242014
stu_fs2.vp 173166260
tango1_fs2.vp 195887233
tango2_fs2.vp 72778161
tango3_fs2.vp 50497261
warble_fs2.vp 118858128
These were downloaded using the FSO installer, back when it still included support for the retail vps.
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If we are to be precise, the files from Root_fs2 down are retail files. They are absolutely necessary. The multi files are multiplayer stuff, they won't do any harm but they are not required for the game to work. And the cutscene vp is still the cutscene vp, so don't delete it.
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Ok thanks guys. Ill let you know if \when i get 3.6.10 up and running! Thanks for all the help sofar!
EDIT: Ok everything is nearly fully installed. Waiting on the Advanced VP (ill probably end up not using it or deliting it) then all seperate VP's will be done, and ill be ready. Ill let you know if it works.
EDIT2: No dont work. I tried it, got as far as briefing, hit commit, "FS2 has encoutered an error", crash. Figured out, i forgot to extract the rar\zip files. So, i do so. Try again. Get as far as briefing, same thing happens.
I selected teh Single player profile, and in the launcher, selected the Derlict mode to continue my campaign. Briefing is normal. Cant get in mission. I even moved the MV_Advanced folder OUT of my FS2 directory.
AND the Opening nebula cutscene, plays small, and on the top-left corner of my screen.
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If you selected Derelict as a mod, make sure you selected the Derelict campaign from the Campaign Room.
Otherwise run debug, post fs2_open.log.
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I even moved the MV_Advanced folder OUT of my FS2 directory.
(http://omglol.kerrolisaa.com/1/4351.jpg)
There are instructions in the MediaVP release thread.
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The MV Advanced was in C/.....Freespace2/mediavps/
i was trying to say, i moved it out of that, and out of the .../freespace2/ as well.
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Ah, ok then. But my point still stands: if you selected Derelict as a mod from the Launcher and the Derelict campaign from the Campaign Room and are still having problems, post the log and maybe we can pinpoint the source of your problem.
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Select it form the campaign room, even when it loads the proper mission briefing and everything? Will do..
Dont work. It was already selected.
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I meant the fs2_open.log from your \freespace2\data\ folder, but this might do, though.
fs2_open_3_6_10r-20081210_r4989 caused an Access Violation in module atioglxx.dll
Consult this thread (http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/topic,58371.0.html) to see if it helps.
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Dont have any log in fs2\data..
EDIT: Which of the two drivers should i try? I didnt really understand what he was saying.
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You can install the latest drivers available, but you should take the atioglxx.dll from the Catalyst 7.1 series for your OS and put that in your FS2 folder. If you have XP it's the file linked in the thread, if you have Vista it may not work for you though, but you'll have to get the file from the Catalyst installer itself without installing it, by extracting the files.
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So use link #1 or Link#2?
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So use link #1 or Link#2?
You didn't read very far did you? :)
Start here (http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/topic,58371.msg1178740.html#msg1178740). That should be the dll you need for XP, the next post links to the driver packages if you want to get it yourself straight from AMD.
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Ok i have the DLL in my FS2 directory. Is that all i need?
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Did it work? It should be all you need.
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Did not work.
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Any advice anyone?
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It's worked for everyone else with a X1xxx series ATI card and Windows XP. I'm not sure why it wouldn't be working for you if that's your setup too.