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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: Mika on December 30, 2008, 02:30:22 pm
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In case you haven't seen, Clint Eastwood's newest movie trailer is available on Youtube.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9teLeXZ3XMU
Saw the trailer yesterday, and I'm already sold to see this movie. Has anyone seen it here? If so, what were your thoughts?
I mean, Clint standing on backyard with a shotgun grumbling to the local gang "Get off my lawn!" And the man is 78!
Mika
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That's not a shotgun that's an M1 Garand Rifle.
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Get off my lawn
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That's not a shotgun that's an M1 Garand Rifle.
Shows how much I know about US weapons (and also, care).
Mika
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M1s saved Euros ass
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I love that rifle, seriously... :D
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M1s saved Euros ass
I don't share this viewpoint. But going further there would be side-tracking.
Mika
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Ol' Clint's still a BAMF I see.
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Ol' Clint's still a BAMF I see.
Bad Ass OLD Mother ****er :lol:
I am soo seeing that movie
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M1s saved Euros ass
I don't share this viewpoint. But going further there would be side-tracking.
Mika
Cool another young idiot ignorant of history.
Mika
edit for content: I've seen it, and it's pretty ****ing sweet. Clint Eastwood is still a magnificent actor, and this just goes to show how well a director he's become.
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Er, were you translating Mika's words, or insulting him? He's certainly not young, at least by the standards of this forum!
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The thing what I don't really get is how Clint has done so many extra-ordinarily good movies in the recent years? His westerns are pretty good, but since he became and actor&director his movies have been on a totally different level. All of them have been extraordinarily plausible, quite realistic and the best thing, let's the viewer do his own thinking. I recall some of his comments about nowadays movie budgets, it was of the lines of he could start a war with the amount of money they are putting in the recent Hollywood movies. Is it because he is free of the limitations imposed by studios?
Calling me ignorant of history is something new for me also. If you want to discuss why I don't think that Garand had a major impact we could start another topic or use private messages.
Mika
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it should be Gramps Torino.
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YouTube video got pulled, so here's Apple's site: http://www.apple.com/trailers/wb/grantorino/
And indeed, nice trailer.
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Calling me ignorant of history is something new for me also. If you want to discuss why I don't think that Garand had a major impact we could start another topic or use private messages.
Mika
While the Garand may have had a reasonable impact, it wasn't the sole factor of winning the war, and that's why IMO, I don't think referring to it as "Saving Euro's ass" is that accurate.
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My point was that it's not just some "US gun" it is a very famous US gun that helped to win WWII
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My point was that it's not just some "US gun" it is a very famous US gun that helped to win WWII
Fair enough
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Gran Torino ?
(http://www.idcow.net/idcow/products/etl2041.jpg)
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Calling me ignorant of history is something new for me also. If you want to discuss why I don't think that Garand had a major impact we could start another topic or use private messages.
Mika
You seem to have missed his point. You also seem to not know that it was the only standard issue rifle that was semi-auto. While the Springfield was still used, it was at most one per squad for longer range engagements.
And, uh... Clint Eastwood is all right too. :nervous:
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...must... resist... side-tracking...
FAIL
I think I haven't stated my grounds for my opinion. How can you know I have missed your point?
What it comes to naming weapons, it would be ridiculously easy to mention something about US people not recognising the European weapons that aided in the US independence. Or some other non-US weapons used in WWII that had a significant impact on the outcome of the war - of which I recognise only a few. But I don't go there since it would be silly, you could not possibly know those things since you haven't used them yourselves.
Same applies to Garand. That thing belongs to museum, in the "Weapons of the Past" -department. Not that I want to belittle it or people who did something with it, but it doesn't hold such value for me as it did to US grandfathers. And the continuation question here would be why should it?
EDIT: Besides, I automatically assumed it was a shotgun since I thought it had been better choice on that situation.
Mika
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Gran Torino ?
(http://www.idcow.net/idcow/products/etl2041.jpg)
The point of the film is that the Gran Torino is (initially) the only thing he cares about until he learns new moral values.
Or something.
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...must... resist... side-tracking...
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I think I haven't stated my grounds for my opinion. How can you know I have missed your point?
Mars' entire point was that it was a significant and noteworthy rifle, specifically among WWII rifles, not that it literally saved Europe's ass.
You said that you don't share that viewpoint. You either took that literally, in which case you did indeed miss the point, or you're denying the fact that it was a noteworthy rifle, which is about as subjective as the fact that June 6, 1944 was a significant day in the war.
What it comes to naming weapons, it would be ridiculously easy to mention something about US people not recognising the European weapons that aided in the US independence. Or some other non-US weapons used in WWII that had a significant impact on the outcome of the war - of which I recognise only a few. But I don't go there since it would be silly, you could not possibly know those things since you haven't used them yourselves.
Just because you didn't know the Garand existed doesn't mean it's insignificant, which it looks like you analogously support in your post, so I needn't have mentioned it.
Same applies to Garand. That thing belongs to museum, in the "Weapons of the Past" -department. Not that I want to belittle it or people who did something with it, but it doesn't hold such value for me as it did to US grandfathers. And the continuation question here would be why should it?
EDIT: Besides, I automatically assumed it was a shotgun since I thought it had been better choice on that situation.
Mika
It's not really sentimental value people are getting at, or at least I'm getting at, it's the fact that it was a technologically and militarily a good rifle by reasonable standards. That itself makes it a significant rifle, and moreso when you look at the scale in which it was deployed.
I'd ask for a split, but I've made my point as clear as it's going to get and I'll stop now. :nervous:
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Wow it's amazing how I involuntarily killed this thread in the first comment.
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Snail, don't worry. This is the internet. I'm also starting to be more and more annoyed that the topics I start usually die in about one page or side-track to somewhere else. But as long as people are talking I suppose it's for good. Besides I thought it was funny I didn't recognise that, hence my reply.
Mars' entire point was that it was a significant and noteworthy rifle, specifically among WWII rifles, not that it literally saved Europe's ass.
Then he should've said that. I tend to take things pretty literally, especially if there is no other words in the message that could help decomposing the actual message.
... you're denying the fact that it was a noteworthy rifle, which is about as subjective as the fact that June 6, 1944 was a significant day in the war.
I never said it wasn't noteworthy. I said it didn't save Euros ass. What it comes to Normandy, the outcome was already decided before US involvement as far as I know. What US involvement did was to accelerate the end. When the war was over, it was then when US actually saved Euros ass with Marshall aid and reconstructing Germany.
Mika
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So I actually did watch the trailer, but I just decided not to comment about it until now... yes... :nervous:
It looks like a really neat movie. I'm not sure how it compares to other Clint Eastwoods, but the plot seems like it's a decent step away from things made within the past few years, although the part about "Grumpy grandpa beats people up" idea has been cliched.
I'm hoping, though, that's overcome by the addition of a better past to the character and a more unique plot premise. Anyone know anything more about the movie? Disregarding everything that has to do with firearms, I mean.
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I think quite a lot of people have actually witnessed this type of grumpy grandpas in their real lives. Eastwood's performance is though a lot more believeable compared to other similar type of movies.
In IMDB they are saying that this movie succeeds to be hilarious, sad and tense at the same time. More the reason to pay that 10€ for the ticket. That's hopefully 10. I would be satisfied with less also.
Release date 20.th of February 2009 in Finland? OH, COME ON!
Mika
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I'm sorry for any confusion my post may have caused