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Post by: PSYCHO on March 17, 2002, 12:20:53 pm
Here are some drawings that I did for future models that I will be doing....8)
(http://freespace.volitionwatch.com/qm/pub/psycho/Image1.jpg)
(http://freespace.volitionwatch.com/qm/pub/psycho/Image2.jpg)
(http://freespace.volitionwatch.com/qm/pub/psycho/Image4.jpg)
(http://freespace.volitionwatch.com/qm/pub/psycho/Vasudan%20Destroyer.jpg)  
    These plus many other ships will be presented in my campaign The Dogs of War.....8
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Post by: Galemp on March 17, 2002, 12:22:13 pm
Fool! You have them linked to a secure server! FEAR MY WRATH!!!!
Title: OOPs
Post by: PSYCHO on March 17, 2002, 12:34:23 pm
Sorry about that:doh:
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Post by: Nico on March 17, 2002, 12:43:51 pm
Nice nice, but the shivan destroyer really has a cruiser feeling actually. cain fault :p
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Post by: PSYCHO on March 17, 2002, 12:51:36 pm
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Originally posted by venom2506
Nice nice, but the shivan destroyer really has a cruiser feeling actually. cain fault :p

   Yea kinda Cainish but I think it has a hint of lucifer too
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Post by: CODEDOG ND on March 17, 2002, 12:56:41 pm
looks like a mara to me
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Post by: LtNarol on March 17, 2002, 01:07:38 pm
behold, the Cain Mk II :D, no really, thats awesome, keep it up
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Post by: Stunaep on March 17, 2002, 01:19:43 pm
I like the cruiser design. It doesn't look like its developed from an existing design. So, well done.
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Post by: CODEDOG ND on March 17, 2002, 01:21:31 pm
437-6070   Where's that? lol
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Post by: an0n on March 17, 2002, 01:30:56 pm
They're all f*cking excellent.

The Shivan Destroyer looks too much like a panther near the front and is too bone-ish to be Shivan. Maybe some kind of elite SOC vessel? Or another branch of the GTI's shivan ship project.
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Post by: Shrike on March 17, 2002, 03:27:07 pm
I like the cruiser.
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Post by: Stryke 9 on March 17, 2002, 04:30:47 pm
Not bad. Science vessel is excellent, cruiser's needing a lower engine for accuracy's sake...
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Post by: mikhael on March 17, 2002, 05:21:21 pm
Those are excellent. You wouldn't mind if someone else poked around at modelling them a bit would you? ;)
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Post by: Nico on March 17, 2002, 05:42:26 pm
lol, if you make the shivan one, think about OTT :D
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Post by: Galemp on March 17, 2002, 05:55:48 pm
Hehe.. thanks for allowing us access.

That is THE BEST concept art from a non-employee I have EVER seen. :yes: Absolutely fantastic! They look like good ships too.
Title: WOW
Post by: PSYCHO on March 17, 2002, 09:11:57 pm
Wow alot of positive feedback...8)
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Post by: CmdKewin on March 18, 2002, 03:04:25 am
yea right! :yes: :yes:  the Science vessel is just PERFECT! :eek:  amazing, truly amazing. I wish I could draw like that...
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Post by: Setekh on March 18, 2002, 03:33:30 am
Whoa! Sw33t! :):yes:
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Post by: Raven2001 on March 18, 2002, 06:46:32 am
WOW!!!!!!!!!!!! :eek:

Those are very very good!!!!!
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Post by: Rampage on March 18, 2002, 07:45:39 am
The GTVSC Darwin.  Why do SOOO many people want to incorporate a Shivan Alliance into their MODs?
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Post by: mikhael on March 18, 2002, 09:59:22 am
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Originally posted by Rampage
The GTVSC Darwin.  Why do SOOO many people want to incorporate a Shivan Alliance into their MODs?


Shivan? Where?

Galactic
Terran
Vasudan
SCIENCE
Cruiser

The Shivan ships are in the third and fourth pictures.
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Post by: Styxx on March 18, 2002, 10:16:32 am
Ooooh, cool! Great work there! :yes:
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Post by: aldo_14 on March 18, 2002, 10:36:48 am
Nice.  It's just a shame my own co0ncept stuff increasingly looks like the work of an arthritic 5 year old, otherwise I'd post some :)


anyway, very good.

NOW MAKE THEM!! ;7 ;7 ;7 ;7
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Post by: Reaper on March 18, 2002, 01:06:13 pm
OK, Cruiser RULZZZZZ!!!!. I got some drawings but not as good as that cruiser.
Hehe, heres a freespace battle. Well i wanna mod some ships into this ones here, but not the space base. By the way Battle for Earth, Shivan Swarm is the campaign, and Ancients are back.
Sorry about commercial :D, but i dave to do some if i wanna be hosted ;). Here's the current webpage, sorry but poor.Here (http://kissifrot2605.free.fr/)
Here's the Battle for Earth battle,but picts lines are darkened:( :
(http://cool.lindata.se/comic/images/Jaka/Pict0004.JPG)
Sorry about moon and colonised mars switch. I wanted to draw something else, but on end it turns like freespace battle.
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Post by: Stunaep on March 18, 2002, 01:21:56 pm
Well, you all draw well better than me. I think I'll post one of my drawings in here now...

No wait, I still want have some dignity.
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Post by: Turnsky on March 21, 2002, 04:47:15 am
(http://users.bigpond.com/turnsky/images/icarus.jpg)

:D

or, if you want to use a ship from a game or movie, try this....
(http://www.3dap.com/halo/files/screenshots//big/35.jpg)

Pillar of Autumn from HALO

(http://www.starshipmodeler.com/tech/SULACO_-_50.JPG)
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Post by: an0n on March 21, 2002, 11:33:26 am
Sulaco is the marine ship from Aliens right?
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Post by: Galemp on March 21, 2002, 02:43:47 pm
Yep. Love that movie. :D Giger does it again!
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Post by: Turnsky on March 21, 2002, 05:10:16 pm
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Originally posted by an0n
Sulaco is the marine ship from Aliens right?


Yeah, cool isn't it, i searched for quite a while to find that,

what about this one?

(http://users.bigpond.com/turnsky/images/vb.jpg)

in case you don't know what this ship is it's the Von Braun from system shock 2 (without rickenbacker)  :D
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Post by: PSYCHO on March 21, 2002, 10:08:21 pm
Hey those last few Images are great!!! I remember Aliens and I liked the ship this Inspires me to do a new set of Concept Images for the Terrans hehe......Stay Tuned............8)
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Post by: CmdKewin on March 22, 2002, 02:26:09 am
lets see if you can guess where does this ship come from...

(http://mypage.bluewin.ch/p98/misscr1.jpg)
well.. it's not a good picture, but anyway... :) I modelled this ship with my Lego ;) (yep, at an age of 22, I still play with those nice an shiny bricks...)

okok... this one is easy...
(http://www.lancersreactor.com/t/art/shots/large/451-0005.jpg)
it would look really cool, within the FS2 engine... if I only where able to do some proper texturing...

but the one I prefer is the Badanov...

(http://www.lancersreactor.com/t/art/shots/large/14.jpg) that's a nice and fast ship :D


sorry for the big pictures... :)
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Post by: Turnsky on March 22, 2002, 05:44:24 am
damn, it looks familiar but i can't quite put my finger on it. any clues?
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Post by: CmdKewin on March 22, 2002, 05:52:20 am
which one?

the first one? it comes from an adventure game dating 1995 :)

second one and third one? from a MS Space combat game.... ok I've said too much...
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Post by: Turnsky on March 22, 2002, 05:56:44 am
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Originally posted by CmdKewin
which one?

the first one? it comes from an adventure game dating 1995 :)

second one and third one? from a MS Space combat game.... ok I've said too much...


The first one :rolleyes:

I know what the other two are from i have the game, though some features were nice i didn't hold a torch to freespace
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Post by: CmdKewin on March 22, 2002, 07:53:49 am
eheh ;) you are right. anyway... I won't tell you where it comes from :D
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Post by: aldo_14 on March 22, 2002, 08:00:43 am
Has anyone ever noticed that the Russian ship from 2010 (movie) is nigh identical to a Babylon 5 ship?
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Post by: Stunaep on March 22, 2002, 08:41:51 am
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Originally posted by CmdKewin


but the one I prefer is the Badanov...

(http://www.lancersreactor.com/t/art/shots/large/14.jpg) that's a nice and fast ship :D


sorry for the big pictures... :)  


A russian spaceship. LOL, man, that just made me laugh....

Dunno why. No offense to any russians, but looks like that thing is going to come down just like the Mir station.

Actually the Mir was up there for about 16 years, and though in the end they fixed the thing with ducktape and nails, it held.

Man, I'm still laughing. :lol:
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Post by: Turnsky on March 22, 2002, 06:05:39 pm
why? 'cause it looks like it's gonna fall apart if you look at it the wrong way? :D
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Post by: Galemp on March 22, 2002, 07:50:49 pm
I'd say the hammer and sickles and red stars hail the immenant collapse of the USSR...
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Post by: Stryke 9 on March 22, 2002, 08:02:30 pm
I want!
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Post by: Nico on March 22, 2002, 08:07:43 pm
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Originally posted by GalacticEmperor
Yep. Love that movie. :D Giger does it again!


nope, Giger wasn't involved in Aliens ( otherwise you wouldn't have any queen, just alien victims that turns into eggs, groovy :p ), and he had only a role as consultant in Alien3. Dunno for alien4, I think he wasn't involved at all either.
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Post by: Turnsky on March 22, 2002, 08:35:20 pm
You liked the Sulaco? ok here's another one i dug up.


(http://www.starshipmodeler.com/Other/18ryfull.jpg)

i just know some people are gonna love this :D
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Post by: Setekh on March 22, 2002, 08:56:53 pm
The Pillar of Autumn is sweet. :)
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Post by: WMCoolmon on March 22, 2002, 10:50:29 pm
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Originally posted by Setekh
The Pillar of Autumn is sweet. :)
That should be a :nod:
Man, I remember the first (and only, heh) time I saw the intro to HALO...I saw the fighters taking off in the bay and instantly thought "If only FS had this kind of graphics engine..." :D
Title: watching too many movies...
Post by: StratComm on March 22, 2002, 11:08:40 pm
It looks like someone has seen Starship Troopers a few times too many, and they have WAY too much time on their hands.

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i just know some people are gonna love this
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Post by: Turnsky on March 23, 2002, 01:38:56 am
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Originally posted by StratComm
It looks like someone has seen Starship Troopers a few times too many, and they have WAY too much time on their hands.

 


actually i spend most of my time learning how to do C++ and replying to emails and posts, as well as the odd sketch here and there.
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Post by: Turnsky on March 23, 2002, 01:56:04 am
Ok, you'd like this one!


(http://swvfx.free.fr/eventhorizon09.jpg)

the model itself is about 10m (30 feet) Long :eek2:
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Post by: PSYCHO on March 23, 2002, 02:11:14 pm
Isnt that the Event Horizon?...........8)
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Post by: Galemp on March 23, 2002, 02:22:13 pm
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Originally posted by Turnsky

(http://swvfx.free.fr/eventhorizon09.jpg)


Hey, look! It's a Hecate under construction!
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Post by: Nico on March 23, 2002, 02:25:03 pm
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Originally posted by StratComm
It looks like someone has seen Starship Troopers a few times too many, and they have WAY too much time on their hands.

 


you never watch Starship Troopers too many times :p
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Post by: CODEDOG ND on March 23, 2002, 02:33:51 pm
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Originally posted by Turnsky
Ok, you'd like this one!


(http://swvfx.free.fr/eventhorizon09.jpg)

the model itself is about 10m (30 feet) Long :eek2:


Event Horizon Sucked but the ship was cool.
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Post by: Turnsky on March 23, 2002, 06:05:07 pm
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Originally posted by PSYCHO
Isnt that the Event Horizon?...........8)


Yes it is, cool isn't it?
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Post by: Stryke 9 on March 23, 2002, 06:26:37 pm
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Originally posted by venom2506


you never watch Starship Troopers too many times :p


Shall I sigh and say that some people just have strange tastes, or mock you incessantly? Choices, choices...:p
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Post by: Turnsky on March 23, 2002, 06:30:12 pm
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Originally posted by Stryke 9


Shall I sigh and say that some people just have strange tastes, or mock you incessantly? Choices, choices...:p


*gets the marshmallows* :D
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Post by: Reaper on March 24, 2002, 02:52:25 am
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Originally posted by venom2506


you never watch Starship Troopers too many times :p


:p Yes, it's the best :p
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Post by: CmdKewin on March 24, 2002, 03:59:38 am
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you never watch Starship Troopers too many times :p


right! :yes: :yes: :D :D
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Post by: Nico on March 24, 2002, 07:53:26 am
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Originally posted by Stryke 9


Shall I sigh and say that some people just have strange tastes, or mock you incessantly? Choices, choices...:p

Why am I not surprised that you don't like Starship Troopers? :rolleyes:
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Post by: mikhael on March 24, 2002, 02:58:40 pm
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Why am I not surprised that you don't like Starship Troopers? :rolleyes:


I don't like Starship Troopers either--Because it wasn't Starship Troopers. It was Robocop-meets-Aliens. On that level, its not bad. But calling it 'Starship Troopers' is an insult to the thoughtful examination of the morality and mind of the fighting soldier.
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Post by: LtNarol on March 24, 2002, 03:19:27 pm
no, it was more like the ugliest bugs on earth enlarged against the stupidest people in fancy costumes with fancy guns
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Post by: Nico on March 24, 2002, 03:35:37 pm
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Originally posted by mikhael


I don't like Starship Troopers either--Because it wasn't Starship Troopers. It was Robocop-meets-Aliens. On that level, its not bad. But calling it 'Starship Troopers' is an insult to the thoughtful examination of the morality and mind of the fighting soldier.


yeah, they should have call it another way. but you don't like the movie because of that? hum...
oh well.
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Post by: mikhael on March 24, 2002, 05:02:30 pm
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Originally posted by venom2506


yeah, they should have call it another way. but you don't like the movie because of that? hum...
oh well.


No, I don't like it because it became 'robocop-meets-aliens'. The director was so in love with movie-with-commercials thing, he carried it over from Robocop into Starship Troopers. Combine this with the rest of the movie being a not very good Aliens ripoff, and it kinda left me cold. While the graphics were excellent, the acting was strictly third rate. I can't bring myself to like a movie for graphics alone. Even Final Fantasy and Event Horizon had better acting (marginally) than Starship Troopers.

When I go to a movie I want decent acting (not great, I can deal with just decent), a story (again, decent, not necessarily great), and visuals. Starship Troopers failed on the first two.
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Post by: Nico on March 24, 2002, 05:40:18 pm
huh, I saw nothing wrong in the acting personnaly.
bah, ST stays one of my favourite sci fi movies, if not my favourite one. It kicked asses, I liked the fact that the bad guys were not the first to attack, that the good guys were not that good, I like the fact that they didn't use cliché stuff like laser rifles, but good old ( and big, very big) macihne guns, I like the fact that the heroe was a perfect dumbass, the terran society an horrible fachist government, I liked the news stuff in robocop so it didn't bothered me to see that again, and, also, I just love Basil Poledouris musics :)
This time I won't go into any ranting thing, the movie sure has flaws, but giving the fact that Veroheven had to finish it with half the budget he initially was promised, I think it's a true piece of art.
Oh, and i just love Denise Richards, so :p
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Post by: an0n on March 24, 2002, 06:12:22 pm
an0n's Reasons Why Starship Troopers Rawked:
The graphics
Denise Richards
Dizzy getting her nekkid groove on with Rico
The Gore
The grunts charging to their death

an0n's Reasons Why Starship Troopers Sucked Ass:
It was soooooo not Starship Troopers (the Roughneck Chronicles is Starship Troopers)
It was full of corporate whoreism
Not enough sex
Not enough violence
Not enough of Denise Richards gyrating
Not enough of Dizzy's groove

an0n's Reasons Why The Event Horizon Ownz j00:
It's ****ing huge
It's walls are painted with the bodies of the damned
It's engine is a black hole
It's engine is a gateway to hell
It mentally rapes everyone who sets foot onboard
It made Sam O'Neill into a psycho killer for an hour and a half
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Post by: CODEDOG ND on March 24, 2002, 06:17:21 pm
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Originally posted by an0n
an0n's Reasons Why Starship Troopers Rawked:
The graphics
Denise Richards
Dizzy getting her nekkid groove on with Rico
The Gore
The grunts charging to their death

an0n's Reasons Why Starship Troopers Sucked Ass:
It was soooooo not Starship Troopers (the Roughneck Chronicles is Starship Troopers)
It was full of corporate whoreism
Not enough sex
Not enough violence
Not enough of Denise Richards gyrating
Not enough of Dizzy's groove

an0n's Reasons Why The Event Horizon Ownz j00:
It's ****ing huge
It's walls are painted with the bodies of the damned
It's engine is a black hole
It's engine is a gateway to hell
It mentally rapes everyone who sets foot onboard
It made Sam O'Neill into a psycho killer for an hour and a half


Amen, brotha Amen!

Starship Troopers the orginal book was good.
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Post by: Nico on March 24, 2002, 07:58:24 pm
Sam Neil, not O'Neil :p
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Post by: Setekh on March 25, 2002, 05:19:29 am
Nice one, an0n... :D

Starship Troopers. StarCraft. Which came first? :D
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Post by: CmdKewin on March 25, 2002, 06:07:22 am
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Nice one, an0n... :D

Starship Troopers. StarCraft. Which came first? :D



Starship Troopers.

The original book, has someone already said, is a good one. And it has little to do with the film.

and where do you think blizzard's guys got the inspiration? :D I just hate people who do speak about things they don't know... like not knowing that many Sci-Fi movies and games are actually taken from Classical Books.. like.. Blade Runner (Philip P. Dick: "Do androids dream of electric sheep.), Ubik (same author, same book name), and so on...

(http://lookinside-images.amazon.com/%20Qffs+v35leq40NlFZirATuimrDPNSUSGlPluYjZiNpBC4hf6unxX/FKlx7osm8pjZ3f+By4c9L0=)
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Post by: Nico on March 25, 2002, 11:19:23 am
Where does Starcraft comes from? from Warhammer 40k actually, and it's really obvious ( Terrans= space marines, Protoss= eldars with alien faces, Zergs= tyranids) , just like Warcraft comes from Warhammer Fantasy Battle :nod:
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Post by: CmdKewin on March 25, 2002, 11:30:44 am
that's another one :D :yes: it's a mix of different genres :D


btw, i just can't wait to see Freelancer finally done! :D :cool:
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Post by: mikhael on March 25, 2002, 02:51:45 pm
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Originally posted by venom2506
huh, I saw nothing wrong in the acting personnaly.
bah, ST stays one of my favourite sci fi movies, if not my favourite one. It kicked asses, I liked the fact that the bad guys were not the first to attack, that the good guys were not that good, I like the fact that they didn't use cliché stuff like laser rifles, but good old ( and big, very big) macihne guns, I like the fact that the heroe was a perfect dumbass, the terran society an horrible fachist government, I liked the news stuff in robocop so it didn't bothered me to see that again, and, also, I just love Basil Poledouris musics :)
This time I won't go into any ranting thing, the movie sure has flaws, but giving the fact that Veroheven had to finish it with half the budget he initially was promised, I think it's a true piece of art.
Oh, and i just love Denise Richards, so :p


The government was not fascist (as you would know if the movie didn't suck donkey balls) and the main character was not a dumbass but an average guy (as you would know if the movie didn't suck donkey balls).

The visuals are stunning. No doubt about it. But visuals couldn't save Final Fantasy: TSW either. Making that movie on half the original budget was phenomenal but a bad movie made at half budget is still a bad movie. It was okay for what it was but it was not what it could have been.

Oh and Denise Richards? She'd be more attractive after being gutted by a Bug. She's nasty. Of course, that's just down to raw personal taste. We will DEFINATELY disagree on which women are attractive. ;)
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Post by: Nico on March 25, 2002, 04:22:31 pm
huh, you know, I read the book too. I was talking that IN THE MOVIE, the gvt is a fascist one, the heroe is dumb. I don't care if it's not like in the book ( I would have if it was Lord of the Rings, but that's another story).
An if you think Denise Richards is ugly, well, i can't do anything for you :p Oh, yeah, I can introduce you to some vasudan female friends of mine :D
Nah, really, i just have the feeling that you (and Stryke9) just always say you don't like it when I talk about something :p
And Starship is not a bad movie, you just don't like it ( oh, and final fantasy wa a good movie too, and I don't care if it didn't work well -in the states- ).
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Post by: mikhael on March 26, 2002, 02:05:46 pm
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Originally posted by venom2506
Nah, really, i just have the feeling that you (and Stryke9) just always say you don't like it when I talk about something :p
And Starship is not a bad movie, you just don't like it ( oh, and final fantasy wa a good movie too, and I don't care if it didn't work well -in the states- ).


Okay, Venom, I'm really tired of this. I like some of the things you do, I don't like others you do. Because my opinion differs from yours does not invalidate my opinion. Because your opinion differs from mine does not invalidate yours. My opinions are based on my likes and dislikes, not based YOUR likes and dislikes. If I don't like something, its because I DO NOT LIKE IT, not because you do like it. Is that clear? If not, I can get someone translate it into French to make sure the point was CLEAR AS CRYSTAL. Good? Good.

I don't like Denise Richards. She's not attractive, sorry. We'll differ on that. I like the sorts of people I like and you stick with the girls you like. It's okay for our opinions to differ. Honest. If you think it is not okay, I suggest you re-read my previous paragraph.

Finally, for the record, I didn't say that Final Fantasy was a bad movie. I thought it was excellent. It still lost money because people didn't like it very much. I am not one of those people. I though it was excellent. Of course, I like every Final Fantasy game to date, so I might just be a sheep.
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Post by: Nico on March 26, 2002, 02:16:46 pm
"look above"
oh! you're angry? :(
I never said you didn't have the right not to like etcetc, I just say that when you tell your opinion, you do it so it's like it can't be questionned, exemple, this very last post:
"she's not attractive, sorry".
bah, I'm fed up of that for long now, you know, but bah, I just can't stay w/o replying, that's how I am, sorry :p
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Post by: mikhael on March 26, 2002, 03:01:33 pm
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Originally posted by venom2506
"look above"
oh! you're angry? :(
I never said you didn't have the right not to like etcetc, I just say that when you tell your opinion, you do it so it's like it can't be questionned, exemple, this very last post:
"she's not attractive, sorry".
bah, I'm fed up of that for long now, you know, but bah, I just can't stay w/o replying, that's how I am, sorry :p


Well she's NOT. ;) (and that IS an opinion. You can question it. You'd just be wrong. In my opinion. )

Whilst I might have been angry before, I am not now, and this is a joke. :D
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Post by: Nico on March 26, 2002, 04:10:12 pm
ok lol, but I think she's gorgeous, and I have a friend who looks just like her, and ... oh well, I won't tell you my life :p
Anyway, I decided never to argue with you again, coz it always ends up as a clash, and I don't want that( see, I actually like you :D )
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Post by: mikhael on March 26, 2002, 04:55:49 pm
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Originally posted by venom2506
ok lol, but I think she's gorgeous, and I have a friend who looks just like her, and ... oh well, I won't tell you my life :p
Anyway, I decided never to argue with you again, coz it always ends up as a clash, and I don't want that( see, I actually like you :D )


Well where's the fun in THAT? ;)
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Post by: Nico on March 26, 2002, 05:12:51 pm
lol, if you want some clash, play online against me, I prefer frags to verbal murder :D
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Post by: mikhael on March 26, 2002, 05:14:27 pm
As if you'd even see me before I vaporised your sorry tail. ;)
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Post by: Nico on March 26, 2002, 05:28:19 pm
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As if you'd even see me before I vaporised your sorry tail. ;)


lol, you won't get me started ;)
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Post by: PSYCHO on March 26, 2002, 11:04:06 pm
This thread is dead some one own it Fast!!!!!!
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Post by: Turnsky on March 27, 2002, 08:00:00 pm
yes please!
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Post by: Shrike on March 27, 2002, 08:07:02 pm
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Yep. Love that movie. :D Giger does it again!
What, the Sulaco?  It was designed by Syd Mead.
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Post by: Setekh on March 28, 2002, 05:27:01 am
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This thread is dead some one own it Fast!!!!!!


You think this is a dead thread?! No way. :p
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Post by: Nico on March 28, 2002, 05:29:42 am
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What, the Sulaco?  It was designed by Syd Mead.


yeah, as I said somwehere above in this thread, Giger has nothing to do with Aliens.
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Post by: Setekh on March 28, 2002, 05:35:45 am
Giger... Giger. What did he do?
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Post by: Nico on March 28, 2002, 06:10:37 am
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Giger... Giger. What did he do?
he designed the original alien and the weird derelict on LV426.
He also did the designs for Species. He also worked on a few old games, and, I suppose, some other movies I don't know about.
Hey, he got an oscar for Alien :)
He was really disapointed not being asked to help for Aliens, and he had only little part in Alien3.
I have an awesome book from him about the making of Alien ( Giger's Alien is the name of the book ), you can see the evolution of all the "versions" of the alien, and original ideas from before he was hired (nfor exemple the alien was meant to be a kind of space dinosaur :p, and if they have had more money, the aliens would be translucid, you could have seen guts and acid running in the veins :) )
Also, you have clear shots of the alien, for exemple, you can see its eyes ( same place as hours actually, behind a transparent cranium :), looks freaky when you notice that -yup, predator 2 was all wrong :D- )
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Post by: Setekh on March 28, 2002, 06:25:35 am
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he designed the original alien and the weird derelict on LV426.
He also did the designs for Species. He also worked on a few old games, and, I suppose, some other movies I don't know about.
Hey, he got an oscar for Alien :)
He was really disapointed not being asked to help for Aliens, and he had only little part in Alien3.
I have an awesome book from him about the making of Alien ( Giger's Alien is the name of the book ), you can see the evolution of all the "versions" of the alien, and original ideas from before he was hired (nfor exemple the alien was meant to be a kind of space dinosaur :p, and if they have had more money, the aliens would be translucid, you could have seen guts and acid running in the veins :) )
Also, you have clear shots of the alien, for exemple, you can see its eyes ( same place as hours actually, behind a transparent cranium :), looks freaky when you notice that -yup, predator 2 was all wrong :D- )


I gotta catch up with all this Alien and Pred stuff... it's just another entire universe I know absolutely nothing about. :)
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Post by: Nico on March 28, 2002, 11:56:36 am
bah, actually, alien and predator universes have nothing to do with each other. There's just that little pun with the alien skull in predator2, I supposed it's the thing that triggered the whole AvP stuff ( first game on jaguar, ouch :p )
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Post by: mikhael on March 28, 2002, 03:13:59 pm
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bah, actually, alien and predator universes have nothing to do with each other. There's just that little pun with the alien skull in predator2, I supposed it's the thing that triggered the whole AvP stuff ( first game on jaguar, ouch :p )


Nope. AvP was inspired by the Dark Horse comics Aliens vs Predator comics. I have the entire first series (autographed by the artists even!). Its not too bad. According to DarkHorse's version of the shared universe, Predators 'seed' xenomorphs on planets and then hunt them. This is the origin of the xenomorph cranium in Predator 2.
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Post by: Nico on March 28, 2002, 03:20:41 pm
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Nope. AvP was inspired by the Dark Horse comics Aliens vs Predator comics. I have the entire first series (autographed by the artists even!). Its not too bad. According to DarkHorse's version of the shared universe, Predators 'seed' xenomorphs on planets and then hunt them. This is the origin of the xenomorph cranium in Predator 2.


mmh, that's kindda not working with the Alien plot, in Alien, the xenomorphs were carried by another alien species, right, but they had nothing to do with predators :)
Bah, dark Horses comics about aliens are ****ed up anywa, i've seen them using aliens against batman and even james bond :rolleyes:
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Post by: mikhael on March 28, 2002, 03:25:25 pm
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mmh, that's kindda not working with the Alien plot, in Alien, the xenomorphs were carried by another alien species, right, but they had nothing to do with predators :)
Bah, dark Horses comics about aliens are ****ed up anywa, i've seen them using aliens against batman and even james bond :rolleyes:


What? You want them to work Predators into the Alien storyline? :lol: People just wanted something that showed one really cool alien species fight another really cool alien species. Since Dark Horse had the rights to both properties (Alien and Predator), they made AvP.

It doesn't have anything to do with either the Alien universe of the first Predator movie.
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Post by: Nico on March 28, 2002, 03:39:26 pm
well, that's kindda sad actually, they could have worked something better, no?
I think that's what they did in the games at least (I think, I've never played them).
bah, anyway, in predator2, the skull isn't an alien one!!!! They messed it up, it should have the front of the skull just like a human skull ( and actually that's what they used to make the costume of the first movie, and really it looks both great and scary when you can see it right - only at the end of the movie, when the alien is behind Ripley in her space suit, just as she turns back and see it a few inches behind her, you can see the alien's face quite clear, and even his two, perfect black eyes - )
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Post by: Turnsky on March 28, 2002, 05:02:31 pm
you think that's convulted? :ha:

try this:

(http://images.dhorse.com/covers/a/avpvt1.jpg)
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Post by: mikhael on March 28, 2002, 05:05:45 pm
That's AWESOME! I put my money on the predator. He's the only one with a fully formed brain of his own. ;)
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Post by: Turnsky on March 28, 2002, 05:13:22 pm
THAT, and the fact that they have their very own cloaking devices
;)
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Post by: Nico on March 28, 2002, 05:20:45 pm
and what exactly can an alien do against a terminator apart from suiciding itself over it to turn it into liquid metal (the kind that doesn't run after Sarah Conor, that is... )
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Post by: mikhael on March 28, 2002, 05:23:58 pm
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and what exactly can an alien do against a terminator apart from suiciding itself over it to turn it into liquid metal (the kind that doesn't run after Sarah Conor, that is... )


Depends on the xenomorph in question. If you read the comics, they come in almost infinite variety. Heck, in Alien3 you see that the the Xenomorphs take on some of the characteristics of the thigns in which they gestate. Imagine what a predator gestated Alien could do. Or one that gestated in a polar bear. :D

Or--and this one WAS done, IIRC--one that gestated in Superman. :p
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Post by: Nico on March 28, 2002, 05:40:54 pm
well, they do take some lines of the host, but that dosn't improve their aptitude it seems: the Alien3 alien won't run faster than any other alien for exemple, it will just move differently.
An alien hosted by superman wouldn't fly or have eyes that can fire lasers i'm afraid :p
Oh, and what would an alien gain from being hosted by the predator? remove all the weapons from the predator, the alien is stronger, faster, more stealth and agile :) the predator only have superior brains, and, as you can see from aliens hosted by humans, this isn't carried over to the alien itself :nod:
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Post by: mikhael on March 28, 2002, 07:14:25 pm
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Originally posted by venom2506
well, they do take some lines of the host, but that dosn't improve their aptitude it seems: the Alien3 alien won't run faster than any other alien for exemple, it will just move differently.
An alien hosted by superman wouldn't fly or have eyes that can fire lasers i'm afraid :p


If I remember correctly, the alien that gestated in Superman ended up being mostly invulnerable, super-strong and able to put the beatdown on Superman. ;) Gotta love comic books.
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Post by: Sheepy on March 28, 2002, 07:15:19 pm
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well, they do take some lines of the host, but that dosn't improve their aptitude it seems: the Alien3 alien won't run faster than any other alien for exemple, it will just move differently.
An alien hosted by superman wouldn't fly or have eyes that can fire lasers i'm afraid :p
Oh, and what would an alien gain from being hosted by the predator? remove all the weapons from the predator, the alien is stronger, faster, more stealth and agile :) the predator only have superior brains, and, as you can see from aliens hosted by humans, this isn't carried over to the alien itself :nod:


:ha: I dont know why but i found that really funny :ha:
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Post by: an0n on March 28, 2002, 07:49:26 pm
Aliens are very strong, very fast, very stealthy. Presumably take on memories from initial host as 'Aliens' aliens formed a loose society based around the queen whereas Resurrection aliens were highly intelligent yet bickered much like their initial hosts (podded scientists if memory serves). A Predator could easily track an Alien and has the weapons to dispatch it with ease, however the sheer number of aliens in comparison to Predator numbers means any group assault would massacre any Predators. Terminators (T-801's) would find it difficult to track Aliens due to their speed and stealth however in a one on one battle a T-801 would rip any alien to pieces, probably destroying itself in the process. Also Skynet search patterns would easily corner alien infestations allowing nuking of the infested area. Terminators are also immune to being taken as hosts and as such any engagement would have zero possibility of increasing hostile numbers through capture.

Basically it all boils down to numbers. Terminators and Aliens are on level pegging in both strength and numbers as well as tracking ability. Predators are far less in number but their weaponry brings them level with both T-801's and Aliens. However if a T-1000 were to surface it would most likely, single handedly take down the Aliens and Predators.
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Post by: Turnsky on March 29, 2002, 04:43:13 am
well the AvPvt series features a VERY strong terminator -alien hybrid that quite could tear your average pred limb from limb.
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Post by: Nico on March 29, 2002, 05:17:54 am
:wtf:
I'll sure never read that. An alien spawned from Superman, and a terminalien :lol:
My god :rolleyes:
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Post by: Setekh on March 30, 2002, 12:29:17 am
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you think that's convulted? :ha:

try this:

(http://images.dhorse.com/covers/a/avpvt1.jpg)


So THAT'S what a Pred looks like underneath its helmet? :jaw:

And, let me get this straight. Preds seeded Aliens on various planets to hunt them?
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Post by: Reaper on March 30, 2002, 04:38:45 am
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So THAT'S what a Pred looks like underneath its helmet? :jaw:

And, let me get this straight. Preds seeded Aliens on various planets to hunt them?


Didn't you know.:jaw:  Have u never watched predator??? :doh:  BTW The alien is still better
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Post by: Fineus on March 30, 2002, 04:48:00 am
I didn't know that and I've got Aliens 1/3 and Predator on video! Are you sure thats not some loosely strung together excuse to get them in the same universe?

Oh and this is what a Predator should look like...

(http://www.linuxon.com.br/themes/windowmaker/theme-wm-predator.jpg)
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Post by: Nico on March 30, 2002, 05:14:47 am
yes, we are sure IT IS a poor way of puting both species in the same universe. Prerdators sure don't seed planets with aliens just for fun ( apart in DH comics :rolleyes: ) If they're so smart, they'd know they wouldn't need to seed more than one planet for their weekly fun after coming back from the factory :p
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Post by: mikhael on March 30, 2002, 10:37:59 pm
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yes, we are sure IT IS a poor way of puting both species in the same universe. Prerdators sure don't seed planets with aliens just for fun ( apart in DH comics :rolleyes: ) If they're so smart, they'd know they wouldn't need to seed more than one planet for their weekly fun after coming back from the factory :p


It is indeed a simple way of putting them in the same universe. However, the reason they seed them on different planets is to fight the aliens that result from that planet's ecosystem. They fight pretty much anything.

Its a comic book based on two cheeseball action/thriller flicks. Don't read too much into it. ;)
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Post by: WMCoolmon on March 31, 2002, 12:47:46 am
Are you sure there isn't some moral message hidden in there somewhere? Or it won't be nominated "Best novel of the year" in 2042? After all, look at Shakespeare... ;)
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Post by: Sesquipedalian on March 31, 2002, 01:51:50 am
I can't believe I read this.
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Post by: Nico on March 31, 2002, 07:24:52 am
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Are you sure there isn't some moral message hidden in there somewhere? Or it won't be nominated "Best novel of the year" in 2042? After all, look at Shakespeare... ;)


morale in DH comics

"runs very far from everybody not to hurt anybody's hears, and bursts in very loud laughings"