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Hosted Projects - Standalone => Fate of the Galaxy => Topic started by: brandx0 on January 20, 2009, 09:18:20 pm
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Model complete, now it's time to texture:
(http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/5751/nuy08uf9.jpg)
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You're a friggin' machine. :p
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Ah the humble wishbone always held a tender place in my heart.
And as Mongoose mentioned, you are a machine.
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Deja Vu...
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Note: Reasons it's a good thing I redid this:
1) It's 3000 less polies than the last one
2) It's accurate to the filming model
3) The texture will be done in the same style as NuX, meaning more movie-like quality.
4) Cause I said so.
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It was pretty either way, but accuracy and efficiency = win.
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It makes me want to lick it or mate with it ^_^
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Oh boy, here we go. I remember the great model sexual innuendo epidemic of a year or two ago suddenly...
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Another of the Rebel quartet on the way! Man, it's like every other day there's something awesome posted up for this game. It's been an impressive sustained effort to say the least, and I can't wait to see it textured up!
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Just finished UVing, so hopefully I should begin to get some WIP shots of the texture by tomorrow, barring any huge setbacks (I'm experimenting with the style of UVing, so it may need to be remapped)
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You don't sleep, do you, Brand?
Meh, who cares! Breathtaking model! Keep 'em coming.
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Sleep is for the weak...
and those who have a circadian rhythm.
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Thing is with modellers is, once they are on a roll, time has no meaning, 11pm can become 4:30am before they even look at the clock.
Very nice model indeed, as always. The front section looks kind of bland compared to the rest of it, but that's not your fault in the slightest, since, that's exactly what a Y-Wing looks like, and the textures will do an awful lot to alleviate the problem anyway :)
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Thing is with modellers is, once they are on a roll, time has no meaning, 11pm can become 4:30am before they even look at the clock...
Do you honestly believe that doesn't apply to FREDders?
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LOL Probably applies to creative types across the board ;) Certainly applies to musicians :)
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Or us non-creative insomniacs who read forums until all hours of the morning. :p
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:lol:
Anyway, let's get back on topic before I earn myself a bad reputation on the FoTG Forums :nervous:
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We're just going to apply that trait to geeks across the board, since it kind of goes with the definition of a geek.
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The new ships are teh win! :yes:
Great work, keep 'em coming :)
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It's like random spaceship porn! :pimp:
:yes:
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And a quick update here:
(http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/3127/nuy11bf3.jpg)
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(http://www.reelmovienews.com/images/gallery/arcot-ramathorn.jpg)
Mother of God
At the rate you pump out ships you probably will run out of Star Wars craft to do. When that happens I'm quite certain Diaspora will have some stuff available :D
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I never really liked the look of the Y-Wing...until now. You make that piece of trash look absolutely gorgeous. Can't wait to see the finished product.
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We must still be pulling in new blood, because there's a lot of people that seem to have just shown up since the hard drive crash. This one is prettier still than the last one though :)
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BTWL What did you use for rendering this image? :)
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We must still be pulling in new blood, because there's a lot of people that seem to have just shown up since the hard drive crash. This one is prettier still than the last one though :)
Meh, I've been lurking since long before the hard drive crash...I just couldn't stay silent about the awesomeness that's been appearing since then.
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BTWL What did you use for rendering this image? :)
Photoshop for the texture, 3dsmax with VRay for the render
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And another quick update to the texture:
(http://img104.imageshack.us/img104/8160/nuy12pc0.jpg)
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Kate's never looked better, and the rest of the ship too. Great work.
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I touched the shining tip of the proton torpedo...
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And another update:
(http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/1350/nuy13we4.jpg)
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That detailing just flat out rocks, and the fact that it uses so many fewer polies is also super impressive. Looking forward to the finished article!
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i can't see it :(
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Just as well its awesomeness would blind you :D
Try this http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/1350/nuy13we4.jpg (http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/1350/nuy13we4.jpg)
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there is no charge for awesomeness!
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I figured the whole thing out. He's trying to give it an edge in battle by making the TIE pilots do a double take on the details before firing.
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That would only work if theirs were dull by comparison, but since that's not going to be the case, I think the TIEs still have the edge :)
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And another update for us:
(http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/4451/nuy15gw0.jpg)
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Niiiiice.
After the project is finished, are you going to continue making models, or do you intend to take a break? I'd love to see your work in making BTL-B armoured model (http://images.wikia.com/starwars/images/4/49/Btlbywing.jpg) in-game, for instance.
Of course, I understand this is entirely on your own time and volition. I'm not saying you have any obligation to do so or anything. That would be rude! :nervous:
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If he makes an armored one it'll probably the same one as before, which looks something like this (http://swc.fs2downloads.com/reference/Misc/Y-Wing/Original_Y-wing.jpg).
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Yeah, I don't believe I'll be doing the Y-Wing from the clone wars 3d movie, to be honest I think it's ugly as hell.
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Was that in the movie or just the series? I watched it recently and don't remember seeing that ship.
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it was in one episode. personally i think the "evolutionary" steps of starship design is much too overemphasized to be believable anymore in my opinion and the clone wars y-wing prototype lost all individuality and flair the original ship had.
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The Clone Wars one isn't supposed to be the prototype. It's supposed to be the production model. The rebel Y-wings were stripped-down models for easy maintenance.
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it didnt look like it
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it didnt look like it
:wtf: Yes it does.
Here's the original. (http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/starwars/images/8/86/Ywing-CHRON.jpg) It's all stripped down, with exposed wiring and the like. Here's a better view of the Clone Wars series Y-wing. (http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/starwars/images/6/6f/BTL-B_multiview.jpg) It's obviously the ANH Y-wing with full fairing and armour.
Though to be completely accurate, it's supposed to be a variant. Sort of like how the F-15 has variants out the wazoo.
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Wow that looks like Bantha dung. They managed to simultaneously make the Wishbone look like prequel crap as well as doubling the thing's target silhouette making it tactically worse. It never ceases to amaze me how thorough Lucas and crew are about curb stomping the "verse"
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it didnt look like it
:wtf: Yes it does.
Here's the original. (http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/starwars/images/8/86/Ywing-CHRON.jpg) It's all stripped down, with exposed wiring and the like. Here's a better view of the Clone Wars series Y-wing. (http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/starwars/images/6/6f/BTL-B_multiview.jpg) It's obviously the ANH Y-wing with full fairing and armour.
Though to be completely accurate, it's supposed to be a variant. Sort of like how the F-15 has variants out the wazoo.
ah now i see it...well it still is ugly and unpractical..the armoured ywing from the crossections book is much better
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Wow that looks like Bantha dung. They managed to simultaneously make the Wishbone look like prequel crap as well as doubling the thing's target silhouette making it tactically worse. It never ceases to amaze me how thorough Lucas and crew are about curb stomping the "verse"
I like the new lines. It fits with the original's curves very well .
Anyway, it's a bomber, it's not supposed to dogfight in the first place. The thing had a horrible target profile initially, and it got shot down whenever it went up against a fighter in ANH.
Not to mention that the extra bits are all non-essential systems, so any stray laser bolts aren't going to cripple it if it hits.
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...Anyway, it's a bomber, it's not supposed to dogfight in the first place. The thing had a horrible target profile initially, and it got shot down whenever it went up against a fighter in ANH...
They were killed so easily because they were attacked from behind. Not even X-wings were a match in the trench run.
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The clone wars one looks like they put the ship in a mumu! And gave her hair extensions... Check out the badass covered variant in the lost ships gallery linked to in Brand's sig (it's the 1st pic)--it both retains the warhorse/jalopy feel of the original AND looks like something that could have at one point been repulsorlifted out onto a showroom floor. It also looks like a lot less work on the modeling side, which is probably its best selling point considering how many ships the man is tackling. As to it's dogfighting ability, a Y wing was one of the 3 fighters shown to survive Yavin even though a lot more X-wings went up. Maybe that's only because using that model made it easier to get the shot done, but it still counts!
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And another update.
And yes, I'm using displacement for this render, and probably for future renders as well:
(http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/1324/nuy16vc6.jpg)
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If your not tired of hearing praise then i'm not tired of dishing it out because that Wishbone is awesome. Truly great work brand, its a damn shame about your hard drive and Diaspora losing you as a resource but hells teeth your new models are amazing.
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I'm totally tired of hearing praise. Nobody can ever say anything good about my models again, that's a new rule.
Just kidding, you may continue =P
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Greetings! You guys have got a jaw dropping Star Wars mod going on here. I'm seriously impressed with what is being accomplished. And on Freespace 2's old engine? How did you pull that off? Even more so, I'm amazed with how technically accurate the specs and models are. Especially for a Star Wars mod. Awesome work! :yes:
Personally, I really like the BTL-B model in TCW. However, I do have several concerns with certain details about it that haven't been explicitly outlined by LFL. Details that could very well ruin canonical history of the BTL-A4 models showcased in the OT. Like how they predate the X-wing by *only* several years. Whereas, the X-wings were in Alliance service for about two years during the events of ANH. Unless LFL are referring to the basic design of the BTL Y-wing series of starfighters and not specifically the single seater A4 models (or the two seater S3 models). Again, LFL have not clarified this. Which upsets me 'cause the Y-wing is my favorite starfighter. :p
Also, I'm a bit concerned about the BTL-B in relation to the brand new "off the assembly line" A4 models shown in the Incredible Cross Sections book a couple years ago. Is LFL truly aiming to replace it with the B model as THE brand new "off the assembly line" Y-wing? If so, that raises some more issues. The A4 models are so drastically different in capability as well as cockpit design and landing skid placement, it denotes a completely different factory model. And I find it highly unlikely the fledgling and meagerly funded Alliance had enough funds and resources to drastically modify the old BTL-Bs into the A4s we've seen in the films (or the S3s). Especially considering how many of them they supposedly had. Rather, I think there's still merit to the "off the assembly line" A4 model shown in the Incredible Cross Section book that shows a much newer model of the Y-wing (a brand new A4 model) the Alliance started acquiring from Koensayr, and used them as the basis for modification into the stripped A4 models shown in the OT.
I'm hoping the "off the assembly line" version of the A4 models that were created before the HD crashed will be recreated. I was really bummed about that. They looked damn good. :yes: :D
Still, I can't help but love the BTL-B. lol It is rather slick, imo. It definitely fits the profile of a "bomber".
Wow that looks like Bantha dung. They managed to simultaneously make the Wishbone look like prequel crap as well as doubling the thing's target silhouette making it tactically worse. It never ceases to amaze me how thorough Lucas and crew are about curb stomping the "verse"
I like the new lines. It fits with the original's curves very well .
Anyway, it's a bomber, it's not supposed to dogfight in the first place. The thing had a horrible target profile initially, and it got shot down whenever it went up against a fighter in ANH.
Not to mention that the extra bits are all non-essential systems, so any stray laser bolts aren't going to cripple it if it hits.
Well, technically no. The BTL-B Y-wing is a bomber. The BTL-A4 Y-wing is NOT. It's a multi-purpose starfighter with a combat designation of 'Attack Starfighter'. It's role as a bomber is just one of it's many combat roles. It's an amazingly versatile starfighter. And I have to disagree about it's target profile. It's not great, but it's not horrible either. But yeah, I like the BTL-B's design, too. :D
There were 22 T-65b X-wings that participated in the BOY and only 8 BTL-A4 Y-wings. Of which, only two had functioning ion cannons. One of them survived. Only 2 X-wings survived. One of them badly damaged and the other only survived because a certain Correllian smuggler intervened. So you tell me which fighter is more effective. :p
It's been stated by LFL that the other five Y-wings in Gold Squadron were successfully engaging (and eliminating) intercepting T.I.E. Fighters along side Red Squadron's X-wings at the BOY. One of them was the one that survived (the one with the operational ion cannons), Keyan Farlander's Y-wing.
Also, and I hope I'm not stepping on anyone's toes (it's the perfectionist in me lol :p), the nose of the Y-wing needs to be corrected as it's got too much curvature and protrudes out just a little too far. The original model was spot on. Like this:
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And now a fun one!
(http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/645/nuxnuyfinalxb8.png)
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the cockpit of the xwing seems a little big...
should i say...out of proportion?
compare with this: http://www.scifi3d.com/wip_details.asp?intGenreID=10&intCatID=10&key=132
(http://www.scifi3d.com/images/wip/2890_src_xwing_t-65_1.jpg)
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the cockpit of the xwing seems a little big...
should i say...out of proportion?
compare with this: http://www.scifi3d.com/wip_details.asp?intGenreID=10&intCatID=10&key=132
(http://www.scifi3d.com/images/wip/2890_src_xwing_t-65_1.jpg)
It's caused by the intense color of the cockpit edge, and the solid fill of the widows makes you "feel" it's bigger than the see-through glass cockpit.
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That last render melted my face. Maybe the cockpit does come up a little higher than in that other (also good looking) model, but that perception probably has more to do with the reasons Flaser mentioned and the fact that the S-foils are closed on NuX, meaning no big engines hulking above and around the canopy. Or maybe they changed the design because they decided it would be good if the pilot could see straight ahead. Either way, :yes:
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All righty, so two things. First off I've done my best to match his camera angle, but I didn't really spend too much time on it, just wanted to get the feel.
Secondly, while we're nitpicking: That's a 3D model he's done, not an actual photo of the filming model. It's a fantastic model, but still just a model... though if you look at the other views of the model he's made, I think his cockpit is too wide =P
(http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/6263/nuxoo2.png)
Also, he forgot R2 =P
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I do see the height difference, especially looking at the rear edge of the rear pane of glass. But again, it's just another model so it's not the best reference. And if I were Brand, I'd be flattered that those types of things are what people have to stretch for as criticisms :)
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Well it's too late to fix it now...
And by too late I mean I don't feel like it cause I think it looks good as it is =P
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looks good? It deliriously humps my eyeballs and ejaculates spurts of wonder across my slack jawed brain :D
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looks good? It deliriously humps my eyeballs and ejaculates spurts of wonder across my slack jawed brain :D
wierdo :P
must be a perspective issue then...the last picture looks much nicer!
btw the CGI model they used in ANH is definately different from the real model they built. i personally like the CGI model better...it's symmetrical and the canopy is little bit lower.
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I personally liked the old one better, just something about the proportions of it looked sleeker
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looks good? It deliriously humps my eyeballs and ejaculates spurts of wonder across my slack jawed brain :D
wierdo :P
I should have used quotes
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/zero-punctuation/510-Far-Cry-2 (http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/zero-punctuation/510-Far-Cry-2)
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Just cause yahtzee's a weirdo doesn't mean you're not
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so he is?
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I really like your models especially y-wing. This last one You should animate and send to Lucas :D and I'm sure that he will employ You ;) In my own opinion x-wing in few place has not very good proportion (something too wide wings, conopy should be something lower) but Its only my opinion and I know that it is so hard to make everything the same as in film because all blueprints which we may find in google have bigger mistakes.
Greetings :)
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In my own opinion x-wing in few place has not very good proportion
Brandx0, shouldn't you have something in your signature by now? Or maybe a custom title, "It's proportionate!!"
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hey calm down.. I mean some details haven't got very good proportion in my opinion of course but I really like this model!! :) I study automatics and robotics and for me angle 30deg and 45deg is a big difference.. :p sorry.. :D
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I study automatics and robotics and for me angle 30deg and 45deg is a big difference.. :p sorry.. :D
I think 30 and 40 are a big difference for a lot of people. :wtf: Just saying.
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hey calm down.. I mean some details haven't got very good proportion in my opinion of course but I really like this model!! :) I study automatics and robotics and for me angle 30deg and 45deg is a big difference.. :p sorry.. :D
I don't think that was directed to you specifically... It's just that seemingly every model is commented by someone that it "looks out of proportions", despite the repeated statements that the models are as correct as they can humanly be, and that any "errors" in proportions are due to perspective and field of view settings.
Brand's Star Destroyers for example have been called too wide, too long, too flat and too high I think. :p
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Brand's Star Destroyers for example have been called too wide, too long, too flat and too high I think. :p
Imperials don't get high! They can take their glitbitter comments elsewhere!
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Yesterday I analysed some shots from ep4,5,6 and pictures from official star wars exhibition and it looks like there are some difference betwen those models so You right your model is ok :) sorry. And when I say that I see big difference betwen 30 and 45 deg I don't mean that I have speciall skill but That I'm very carefully analysing all angles, widths, lenghs, heights and other thing and I'm really ratty with this. BTW. I was thinking that this kind of reply may be usefull... If I hack You off, sorry.
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...Brandx0, shouldn't you have something in your signature by now? Or maybe a custom title, "It's proportionate!!"
Or, MODerator. :)
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or PROPORnator :D
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It's like the arguments you get about the SW Universe on Space Battles sometimes, I think some people get so carried away with the technical side of things that they forget it's all make believe anyway.
For my part, if I can look at a ship and say..'Oh look, an X-Wing' without hesitation then the model works, I don't really care if the wing seperation is 0.56 Degrees out or whatever ;) Especially since multiple, subtly different models were used throughout the series, it's kind of hard to decide what is exactly canon anyway.
That said, there's nothing wrong with constructive criticism, and the technophiles have helped make Star Wars the rich, varied universe it is, without them, I'm sure the EU wouldn't be half as varied and interesting as it is.
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It's like the arguments you get about the SW Universe on Space Battles sometimes, I think some people get so carried away with the technical side of things that they forget it's all make believe anyway.
The main reason why I mostly dropped out of this mod. :nervous: I'm glad nobody's taken issue with my weapons.
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Nope I think most of them will probably find a home. Some sooner than others.
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Anyways, to get back on topic, another WIP update for the Y-Wing
(http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/3773/nuy18finaldm3.png)
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And another update. So close to done the greebling...
(http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/4825/nuy20bu2.jpg)
(http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/2267/nuy19iy0.jpg)
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I hope there is no charge for awesomeness.
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Yes, 50 dollars every time you play. Hopefully that'll cover my court costs when I get sued =P
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LOL You'd be at the end of a very long queue if they started doing that ;)
Still looking awesome, but then, it always does.
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This is looking ridiculously great; you have truly done justice to Star Wars' most begreebled fighter. Don't forget the little rear window!
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AAAAAAND GREEBLING DONE
Yay!
(http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/5403/nuy22el2.jpg)
(http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/5509/nuy21to3.jpg)
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Skadoosh!
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Sir, how dare you continue to call yourself an amateur. That is a model suitable for art, and to think it will be used in a game makes my blood roil.
I can almost... reach out... and touch it... feel the texture... climb up the side... sit in the pilot seat...
Okay, I think that's enough, before this gets any creepier... Great work!
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Yeah Scourge, you're right, it's way too good for a game, therefore I'm no longer going to do any models for FotG
=P
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that fighter is so phat even jabba said DAMN ^^
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that fighter is so phat even jabba said DAMN ^^
/me looks for the ban button
It's gotta be here somewhere...
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It's really nice :) but I've got a question how do You want to add this model to game? because as I see it is extremally detailed and probably have around 200.000 triangles or more.
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I'm assuming there's a lot of normal/displacement mapping involved in that model to be honest.
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That is an incredibly lovely model of an ugly fighter (yeah I said it, Y-Wing lovers, I'll see you out on the field).
Amazing work.
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200,000? HAHAHA
Dude, if I know Brand he's got that thing under 10k, and probably under 8k. Plus some heavy use of LODs, and it'll be fine.
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This final render has 10k ? :eek2: I really don't belive... If it's true.. respect
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If it's true... respect :D
Hath thou not heardest of an edit button?
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Something: I don't understand your problem... If You would like show that You are the best post here some your arts or your programming tools or part of source code... so I challenge You! which ship You would like to model huh?
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Wowee! :eek: Sick model, brandx0. Absolutely awesome. The detail is stunning.
If I may critique, though, there are a couple little inaccuracies. :P 1) There's no transparasteel window aft of the cockpit 2) The design of the "dome" underneath the command section is incorrect. Other than that, it looks incredible. I can't quite tell, but it looks like you fixed the nose section, too. I'd have to see it from a different angle. lol :p Still, awesome work! :yes:
That is an incredibly lovely model of an ugly fighter (yeah I said it, Y-Wing lovers, I'll see you out on the field).
Amazing work.
I'm on the field. Where you at? :P ;)
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Good sir, continue modelling. I can't wait for this mod to be finished, and I really don't care how long it takes if it's going to look this good.
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This render was made with displacement, an effect which adds geometry based on a normal map. It's a great tool for making renders look great, as well as for adding more shadowed detail to the texture when baking. The in game model is 4200 polies.
Wowee! :eek: Sick model, brandx0. Absolutely awesome. The detail is stunning.
If I may critique, though, there are a couple little inaccuracies. :P 1) There's no transparasteel window aft of the cockpit 2) The design of the "dome" underneath the command section is incorrect. Other than that, it looks incredible. I can't quite tell, but it looks like you fixed the nose section, too. I'd have to see it from a different angle. lol :p Still, awesome work! :yes:
There is a window at the very back of the cockpit on the model, as in the movie (look at the in cockpit shots of the Y-Wing pilots)
I'm not sure what dome you're referring to, perhaps the one at the back of the cockpit near the neck?
(http://swc.fs2downloads.com/reference/PixelandPoly/Y-Wing/P4280044_compressed.jpg)
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Thanks Brand0x :) You use highpoly model for baking textures.. so this model on final render won't be ingame model. This is like I think before but some people say so much about it and don't know nothing about it. It's something sad. I've got one more question" do you put normal map texture to displacement map slot??
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That's the final model as far as I'm aware, but it's rendered up using a ray-tracing system, not scan-line render as used by video game software. The FS2 Engine already supports normal and height mapping (which is similar to displacement mapping) and so will render the model with the maps it already has, however, the lighting and shading won't be equal quality to the pictures shown up there, no radiosity etc for example :)
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This render was made with displacement, an effect which adds geometry based on a normal map. It's a great tool for making renders look great, as well as for adding more shadowed detail to the texture when baking. The in game model is 4200 polies.
Wowee! :eek: Sick model, brandx0. Absolutely awesome. The detail is stunning.
If I may critique, though, there are a couple little inaccuracies. :P 1) There's no transparasteel window aft of the cockpit 2) The design of the "dome" underneath the command section is incorrect. Other than that, it looks incredible. I can't quite tell, but it looks like you fixed the nose section, too. I'd have to see it from a different angle. lol :p Still, awesome work! :yes:
There is a window at the very back of the cockpit on the model, as in the movie (look at the in cockpit shots of the Y-Wing pilots)
I'm not sure what dome you're referring to, perhaps the one at the back of the cockpit near the neck?
(http://swc.fs2downloads.com/reference/PixelandPoly/Y-Wing/P4280044_compressed.jpg)
Ah, what I meant is there is suppose to be a transparasteel window aft of the cockpit, but there isn't one on the model you created. :p Hope that clears it up. ;)
Regarding the "dome", I meant the bulging inverted dome like structure underneath the cockpit section. I'll have to pull out one of my reference pics that show the correct design as soon as I can.
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some people say so much about it and don't know nothing about it. It's something sad.
Flipside: I don't say it about You of course :) but about some people who talks more than know and always want to show how clever are..
As I know Normal map makes illusion of 3d but displacemapping adds some geometry. Fortunatelly radiosity and other beautifull effects is not a problem because as brand0x say it may be baked on texture and effect in game are quite good. I test it in FCP and I'm not disappoint :D
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The window is in there (That section of the map wasn't completed when that render was made)
Also, that thing on the bottom is correct:
(http://swc.fs2downloads.com/reference/PixelandPoly/Y-Wing/P4280046_compressed.jpg)
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Also, that thing on the bottom is correct:
And if there's another model with something different, then you're both correct. But as Brand is solely using one model for reference, he's not changing it. Could be a variant if we can get good refs for it though.
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Well there were a few different models of the Y made, all of which are similar in the fact that they've got 2 engines and a cockpit... hehe
Really, when you get into the details they're not even remotely similar. I chose to use this one because A) It's less used as a reference than other models, B) It's the largest scale model, and C) I had the best photos of it to go off of.
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And starting to get dirty. Still WIP
(http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/6823/nuy23os7.jpg)
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The window is in there (That section of the map wasn't completed when that render was made)
Also, that thing on the bottom is correct:
(http://swc.fs2downloads.com/reference/PixelandPoly/Y-Wing/P4280046_compressed.jpg)
Ah, that explains it. lol
Well there were a few different models of the Y made, all of which are similar in the fact that they've got 2 engines and a cockpit... hehe
Really, when you get into the details they're not even remotely similar. I chose to use this one because A) It's less used as a reference than other models, B) It's the largest scale model, and C) I had the best photos of it to go off of.
Yeah, your right about that. I have quite a bit of reference shots for the good ol' Y-wing, and I've never seen that specific design for the cockpit section's "undercarriage" before. Fascinating. I stand corrected. lol :p
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Brand which Y-wing version was that? The ones for Empire Strikes Back or Return of the Jedi?
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Brand which Y-wing version was that? The ones for Empire Strikes Back or Return of the Jedi?
There were Y-wings in ESB? Where? The big fleet bit at the end?
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yeah, the one with the Nebulon B. I'm fairly sure the one brand is using isn't the ANH version so i figure its porbably the ESB or RotJ.
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I gotta say, Brand, you are one hell of a modeler. I mean damn, you've nailed the proportions, scaling, and the meticulous detail. Awesome work. And for a mod? Wow. Have you had any formal training? I wish I knew how to do this. lol And with the old FS2 engine no less. :yes:
I don't recall seeing the particular Y-wing filming model your using as a reference, before. At least close up and from the underside. Quite interesting indeed. Are you planning on redoing that sick fully faired A4 model from the Incredible Cross Sections book? I was really blown away with the initial one that was created before the HD incident. lol ;)
...you know what? I just noticed the R5 unit doesn't have it's antennae. :p
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He's been modeling since he could count to 10.
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Not quite, maybe 100 though.
Hehe, I've been working in various forms of computer generated imagery since i was about 5 or so, my dad was a draftsman and had me learning Autocad back then. After that I continued on Autocad until about 10 or so when I switched to 3D Studio R4, and later 3D Studio Max, which I've used to this day. I took computer art classes in High School, but to be honest, there was no training involved in those courses, you walked in, did what you wanted for a while and then left. My teacher was also the school counsellor, and had never used 3D studio max before, which I guess makes me self taught
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haha xD Your story with modelling is very similar to my own ;) My older brother was designer and teach me autocad when I was about 10 and about 2 years later I switch to 3ds max R3 :D
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Looks spectacular Brand!
Question about the texturing. Are the Gold squadron markings going to be that muted on the final model or is that something you're planning to revisit?
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It does look amazing. Well done! :yes:
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Well unless anyone has any major issues, we have the final NuY Map here:
(http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/8981/nuy24vw2.jpg)
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Damn, that's pretty freakin' pro.
You know it occurs to me you folks have some trailer building material.
Rebel Strikeforce attack on an ISD? Eh? Eh?
Seriously though, amazing work brandx.
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Lovely work. Again. :D
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Looks positively stunning! Never seen a Y-wing look more beautiful. :yes:
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Looks great. No issues here but I do have a question. Are you going to have it set up to allow color changes? Could be useful for multi.
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Fantastic. I do have a general question though: are you planning to include 3D cockpits in the first release? The Raptor interior that the Diaspora team showed off looks freaking awesome, but it's also understandable if that sort of thing isn't a top priority. Anyway really, really great work.
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Can't say enough good words on your work, b!
Plain awesome!
One question though: Will we see an "armored" variant?
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Well unless anyone has any major issues, we have the final NuY Map here:
(http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/8981/nuy24vw2.jpg)
not major, but i think it is a *little* too 'light' and a slightly darker texture would be better
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I tend to agree on the yellow stripes, but the rest of it is about right.
Exhibit A (http://swc.fs2downloads.com/reference/PixelandPoly/Y-Wing/P4280039_compressed.jpg)
Considering the yellow bands are probably their own layer/mask/etc anyway, I wouldn't worry too much.
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Mmh, I agree that the yellow is almost imperceptible, and I can hardly see the blue on the sides and the cockpit. Let's not forget that those photographs should be used for geometry reference, as the lighting might not be optimal.
For the record, this is how Lucas Publishing photographed the Y-Wing (http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Image:Ywing-CHRON.jpg) for Star Wars Chronicles.
We've established this is the BTL-A4 Y-Wing. Can you make a slight variation for the BTL-S3? The ion cannons on that model are unlocked and used as a turret, so the geometry needs to be adjusted for full 360 degree rotation with a 180 degree field of view. It would be tricky to pull off but I think you can do it. Clone Wars used a bubble turret on the BTL-B, which is a variation from McQuarrie's original concept (http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Image:MCQ-ywing.jpg) so if you want to go that route, there's plenty of material to back you up.
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I thought that Clone Wars used the BTL-S3 before it was stripped down, because as far as I know, the A4 is the only Y-wing that ever had any visual depiction that I'm aware of.
Back on topic, that's one great looking fighter, brandx0. The patience with dealing with the subtleties of little bits and pieces of exposed sections of the Y-wing are what really make this model shine. You really have a great eye for the little details.
I have been thinking this over for a while since I've been busy at work and 3D burnout for the past month or so, and if not to impose, would offer over all the files I've had on the Z-95 mark II including the PSDs. I did plan on redoing the textures in early May, but if you're interested, I would be honored.
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I wouldn't mind retexturing it if that's what you're asking, it'd give me a nice little side project to work on while I figure out my next big endeavor
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I was just taking a second close look and noticed something doesn't seem quite right with the R2 unit. Can't place what it is but it's definitely change from the one in the "starting to get dirty" pic. Other then the color change that is. Could just be looking from a different direction.
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Well, I upped the saturation on the colour markings, hopefully everyone's happy now
Also, the R5 unit hasn't changed other than colours.
Also decided to do a comparison between this and the old one:
NuY-Wing: 4300 polies
(http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/158/nuy25sm9.jpg)
Old Y-Wing: 7800 polies. Less Accurate, worse map, all in all a much more amateur product
(http://swc.fs2downloads.com/media/screenshots/Misc/Brand-X/BTL-S3%20Y-Wing.jpg)
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Looks fine in that pic. Must have just been the angle. Made the detail look kind of flat compared to the view from the previous pic.
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That old one did have a cockpit though...
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Good thing you volunteered to make it chief =P
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Here you go.
(http://www.starshipmodeler.com/starwars/ta_gold/DSC05932.jpg)
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Wow. Just... wow. Brand, you are the freak'n MASTER! lol :yes: ;) Amaaaazing.
PLEASE tell me you'll have cockpit views for this bad boy (and all other craft :D) that look this good. :p
We've established this is the BTL-A4 Y-Wing. Can you make a slight variation for the BTL-S3? The ion cannons on that model are unlocked and used as a turret, so the geometry needs to be adjusted for full 360 degree rotation with a 180 degree field of view. It would be tricky to pull off but I think you can do it. Clone Wars used a bubble turret on the BTL-B, which is a variation from McQuarrie's original concept (http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Image:MCQ-ywing.jpg) so if you want to go that route, there's plenty of material to back you up.
Absolutely! We need to have the two seater S3 model. ;) We know the pilot and the WSO sit back-to-back a la T-47, but other than that, I believe the only other differences from the A4 model is that the cpu systems aft of the pilot in the A4 model are non existent or abbreviated (I have to refresh my memory) to allow more room for the WSO in the S3 and the cockpit (and entire forward command section?) is extended a bit to better accommodate him/her. I wish LFL would release some concrete schematics on the S3 model detailing the differences they've only described.
Also, I'd love it if the "off-the-assembly-line" version of the A4 was remade. That was stunning. It'd be great if the A4 Longprobe was implemented, as well. :D
I thought that Clone Wars used the BTL-S3 before it was stripped down, because as far as I know, the A4 is the only Y-wing that ever had any visual depiction that I'm aware of.
That was most likely a much earlier model that was all it's own, the BTL-B. A straightforward, good ol' fashioned bomber. :) The "just-off-screen" two seater BTL-S3 model (and single seater BTL-A4) were most likely stripped down versions of their respected model.
I was just taking a second close look and noticed something doesn't seem quite right with the R2 unit. Can't place what it is but it's definitely change from the one in the "starting to get dirty" pic. Other then the color change that is. Could just be looking from a different direction.
The antennae is missing? :p I'd prefer it if the R5 unit was restored to red. I just think it looks better. ;)
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Frankly, the Clone Wars bends canon so much anyway, and then there's almost no canon information given about the Y-wings in that episode.
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Frankly, the Clone Wars bends canon so much anyway, and then there's almost no canon information given about the Y-wings in that episode.
Yeah, I agree. LFL has some major explaining to do. *sigh*
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I was just taking a second close look and noticed something doesn't seem quite right with the R2 unit. Can't place what it is but it's definitely change from the one in the "starting to get dirty" pic. Other then the color change that is. Could just be looking from a different direction.
The antennae is missing? :p I'd prefer it if the R5 unit was restored to red. I just think it looks better. ;)
That's it!!!!!!!!
You just don't really notice that's it's not there with the ship behind it. With the blank area behind it it makes it look strange.
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I wouldn't mind retexturing it if that's what you're asking, it'd give me a nice little side project to work on while I figure out my next big endeavor
Cool. I'll PM you after I've sent it. And thanks. I do appreciate this. :)
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It looks awesome! However, I suggest showing the finished product with a black background as well to dispel any false visual interpretations anyone might have from the grayish background of your modeling program. Fantastic job on the ship!
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As requested:
(http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/3369/nuxnuyspacerk6.jpg)
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As requested:
(http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/3369/nuxnuyspacerk6.jpg)
Oh boy! :eek: Oh boy! :eek2: That. Is. SICK!! lol :yes: :yes: I absolutely love it. Fantastic work, Brand. Again. ;)
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I can't see the R2 unit in that X-Wing - is it hidden behind the canopy or is it missing? Or am I just blind?
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the newer xwings dont need no astromech units :P
the engines of the xwing seem a little small.. :p
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Oh yeah, oops, the R2 was hidden when I rendered that. Oh well, I'm not gonna bother redoing the render, not worth the time.
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Oh yeah, oops, the R2 was hidden when I rendered that. Oh well, I'm not gonna bother redoing the render, not worth the time.
Ah. I though you intentionally left out the R2 unit. lol
...and I really think the R5 unit looks better with the red paint scheme. *nudge wink* lol Is it possible to add the antennae?
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He didn't want me to notice he left the antenna out on that one too. :P
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impressive
most impressive
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Uh oh Brand, next to the Y-Wing, the X is looking a little shabby.
Better redo it.
That was a joke.
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no it wasn't. have the courage to speak the truth :P
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That is fantastic work, you have amazing talent.
I cant wait to fly around in those beauties.
For some reason the Y-wings have always been appealing to me, now we'll get to fly in new shiny ones.
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i can harldy wait to see the Nuuglies!
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That is fantastic work, you have amazing talent.
I cant wait to fly around in those beauties.
For some reason the Y-wings have always been appealing to me, now we'll get to fly in new shiny ones.
Yeah, same here. ;) Ever since I saw the original Star Wars back in the day, the Y-wing always struck me as super awesome. lol Not that I didn't love the X-wing, but there was something about the Y-wing that really peaked my interest. After that, the more I learned about it, the more I loved it. :p
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let me guess...you were impressed by the slow speed, its poor maneuverability, and it's warthog like nickname? :P
but the render does look very appealing...makes me want to fly the ywing also ^^
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let me guess...you were impressed by the slow speed, its poor maneuverability, and it's warthog like nickname? :P
but the render does look very appealing...makes me want to fly the ywing also ^^
lol Only if you believe the specs from the X-wing & T.I.E. "simulators". :p LFL says otherwise. ;)
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let me guess...you were impressed by the slow speed, its poor maneuverability, and it's warthog like nickname? :P
but the render does look very appealing...makes me want to fly the ywing also ^^
lol Only if you believe the specs from the X-wing & T.I.E. "simulators". :p LFL says otherwise. ;)
It's funny, I remember distinctly my impression of the two starfighters from the time in my youth before the first X-Wing game - and I thought the Y-Wing was fast but weak (you never see them take more than a hit before breaking apart) and the X-Wing was slower but sturdier - and from just watching the movies, there's nothing that would imply anything different than that.
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let me guess...you were impressed by the slow speed, its poor maneuverability, and it's warthog like nickname? :P
but the render does look very appealing...makes me want to fly the ywing also ^^
lol Only if you believe the specs from the X-wing & T.I.E. "simulators". :p LFL says otherwise. ;)
It's funny, I remember distinctly my impression of the two starfighters from the time in my youth before the first X-Wing game - and I thought the Y-Wing was fast but weak (you never see them take more than a hit before breaking apart) and the X-Wing was slower but sturdier - and from just watching the movies, there's nothing that would imply anything different than that.
lol Yeah, so true. :nod: Especially looking at the size of those massive R200 ion fission engines the Y-wing has. :lol:
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size matters not...
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size matters not...
lol Good call. I knew someone was going to say that. :p
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still i want to see it muster up some decent speed.
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Methinks it is time to split this thread.
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Methinks it is time to split this thread.
Yeah, your right. We're getting waaay off topic. :lol:
Okay, now back on topic. That A4 Y-wing model PWNZ ALL!!!11!1! Are we getting the fully covered "off-the-assembly-line" version redone? :p
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You know I've already answered this question several times, yes, there will be a panelled version. If I get asked again, I'm going to say no
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Yet another case of people who don't RTFT (Read The f#'king Thread)
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You know I've already answered this question several times, yes, there will be a panelled version. If I get asked again, I'm going to say no
lol Sorry, man. I was just play'n.
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You know I've already answered this question several times, yes, there will be a panelled version. If I get asked again, I'm going to say no
or he is gonna fry his HDD again :D
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No, but if the redundant questions continue I might fry my brain next time =P
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Okay, no more redundant jokes. ;)
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Especially not redundant ones.
This post brought to you by the Department of Redundancy Department.
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True, this topic has been asleep for some time, still...
I can find no real visual flaws in the model... it's beautiful. There is ONE minor visual aspect that I would like to inquire of, though: where is the curvature on the canopy where the forward screen meets the entry hatch? This is clearly seen in A New Hope prior to launching the attack on the Death Star.
-Thaeris
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(http://swc.fs2downloads.com/reference/PixelandPoly/Y-Wing/P4280039_compressed.jpg)
(http://swc.fs2downloads.com/reference/PixelandPoly/Y-Wing/P4280048_compressed.jpg)
Care to elaborate?
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I have not yet bothered to put in the New Hope DVD (and with the DVD release they managed to kill the original trilogy for me... the Special Edition was the best in my opinion) to get a screen capture. But I did get this capture from an old behind-the-scenes pic from a modeling site (which should be attached if it doesn't show up directly on this post). In which, you can [kind of] see the smooth transition from the forward screen to the top of the hatch. I don't believe there's supposed to be a sharp edge on this section of the canopy when viewed from the side... Not important, but I notice things like that on my favorite fighter.
-Thaeris
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The Y-Wing full size mockup doesn't match up too well with all the rest of the models, of which there are at least 2 additional versions. I chose to go with the one I had the best references for.
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Well said!
-Thaeris
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That's some amazing work. Y-wing is my favorite. X-wing after that then the new E-wing. (the DReim one)
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Just a reminder for brandx0
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remind him that you like to combine necro and double posting? Thats like a compound net faux pas.
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I'm not even sure what the reminder was here, that he was going to do a render of the Y-wing as mentioned in a completely different thread? No need to remind him here, you silly goose :P
Gonna lock this one unless Brand feels he has more input to say, in which case he can unlock himself.