Well, the "turn evil" thing is related to the conversation between Gaeta and Zarek.
Well, the "turn evil" thing is related to the conversation between Gaeta and Zarek.
It's still not turning evil -- he's stepping up to save the fleet from a pair of emotionally wrecked crazies. And he's justified. I mean, the Admiral and the President are sleeping with each other, they're both behaving strangely -- a mutiny might very well be in order from his standpoint.
“Baddie? Who said anything about being a baddie? I mean, if resisting an alliance with a race of malevolent, deceitful robot-people responsible for the genocide of humankind, enforced by a bunch of ‘leaders’ who time and time again had proven to be completely misguided and hypocritical in their policies is bad…who wants to be good? If what you meant to ask was when did I find out that Felix was to assume the mantle of being the moral center of the show, then I believe it was during the filming of the now infamous ‘Stump Serenade’ that a certain Emmy-nominated writer who shall remain nameless first hinted at his heroic destiny.”
"In my opinion, I don’t know if we learn all that much more about Tom Zarek on a personal level; his backstory so to speak, but we do see just how strongly and passionately he feels about what he believes to be the hypocrisy of the Roslin/Adama regime and their condescending and arrogant attitude towards the opinions of the Council of the twelve, true democracy, which he feels no longer exists, and of himself in particular. I believe we get to see that Roslin and Adama may be as flawed as they believe Tom Zarek is.”
It's still not turning evil -- he's stepping up to save the fleet from a pair of emotionally wrecked crazies. And he's justified. I mean, the Admiral and the President are sleeping with each other. A mutiny might very well be in order from his standpoint.If this was actually Gaeta’s motivation, I might be more sympathetic. But my impression is that he’s at least partly driven by racialized hatred for the cylons, which he justifies with a few personal bad experiences. It’s not Adama’s political missteps that bother him so much as his willingness to come to an agreement with the cylons, and I don’t think that’s a rationally justified position.
Of course, we as the audience know that Adama and Roslin are the 'good folks'. But Gaeta's position is almost more rational.
"They found the tylium ship. Do you care?"
"Mm-mm."
"Neither do I."
*edit* Also, must you modify every post a million times?
Well, there's a fine line here between 'hating Cylons because they're Cylons' and 'hating Cylons because of the things they have done.' Or, even further, 'hating Cylons because of the things they have done, and then ascribing those things to their nature'. I'm not sure which category he falls into. If it's the latter, he's a racist, though he might call it justified.I will concede this distinction, though I’m inclined to say that the “ascribing those things to their nature” part is still racist to some extent. And I don’t think either of these would be an unrealistic thing for Gaeta to feel in this context, I just find them difficult to sympathize with.
I don't see where they're coming from in the point of view of 'the leaders have failed us'. They found earth, it's real, not fake. Just because it was nuked doesn't mean that they've been chasing lies all along.
Also, Athena never gave away Galactica's defense plans? What are you talking about?
I don't see where they're coming from in the point of view of 'the leaders have failed us'. They found earth, it's real, not fake. Just because it was nuked doesn't mean that they've been chasing lies all along.
Also, Athena never gave away Galactica's defense plans? What are you talking about?