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Title: Looking around on SFM, found some things you might like.
Post by: Furyofaseraph on January 25, 2009, 04:42:43 pm
I bet you guys peruse the SFM forums a bit, but I found something that you guys might like.

(http://s138.photobucket.com/albums/q278/Ice-Dragon_photos/odds/test99b.jpg)
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Post by: FraktuRe on January 25, 2009, 07:38:55 pm
Launch tubes? More than 4 guns? She looks pretty impractical.
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Post by: Flipside on January 25, 2009, 07:49:04 pm
I could be wrong, but it looks like the Launch tubes are internally mounted and rear-facing?
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Post by: newman on January 25, 2009, 08:04:20 pm
We frequent sfm all the time. I'd say there's little to no chance of a bsg ship being posted there that we don't
know about :)
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Post by: Furyofaseraph on January 25, 2009, 10:26:33 pm
Well, Vipers don't necessarily have to launch from tubes. (though, it makes more sense to do so). In a zero-g environment vipers, and really anything, can launch all VTOL-style.
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Post by: General Battuta on January 25, 2009, 10:42:58 pm
Well, Vipers don't necessarily have to launch from tubes. (though, it makes more sense to do so). In a zero-g environment vipers, and really anything, can launch all VTOL-style.

As we see on the Demetrius.
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Post by: StarSlayer on January 25, 2009, 11:20:54 pm
If I recall from that ship's development I think that's only a Raptor bay almost like the Lamps Helo hangar on a destroyer.  In addition to the quad of guns I think there are a pair of pop up turrets on the flight deck (you can see one under the doors).  Assuming it has the same weaponry on bottom and 4 in the jaw thats  16 guns to Galactica's 24.  Add that to what ever CIWCs guns it has in the ribs and a Raptor complement thats a pretty tough nut to crack.  It won't smack up a baseship to be sure but a squadron of them could probably overwhelm one.
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Post by: Lt.Cannonfodder on January 26, 2009, 01:35:25 am
Aww, a baby battlestar  :p
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Post by: Meleardil on January 26, 2009, 02:46:27 am
*Deleted because self censorship*
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Post by: Ace on January 26, 2009, 03:51:20 pm
That's odd, all the maggies I know aren't paraplegic... :wtf:
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Post by: Furyofaseraph on January 26, 2009, 05:21:32 pm
aww come on. We have dozens of huge battlestar designs. This is a great small vessel to round out the fleet. :-P!
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Post by: FUBAR-BDHR on January 26, 2009, 05:44:18 pm
Is it just me or does it look like a big shoe? 
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Post by: Angelus on January 26, 2009, 05:50:53 pm
Nice design.

Looks like a RIS shuttle on steroids.
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Post by: Flipside on January 26, 2009, 06:36:26 pm
I like the model, I'm just not too sure what its tactical role would be, other than the fact it could probably be built in greater numbers than the Battlestars, it is smaller, weaker and couldn't carry as many ships. I suppose it might be a police or convoy escort ship, but if that's the case, I'd rather have the Bolitho backing me up.
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Post by: SpardaSon21 on January 26, 2009, 07:51:36 pm
The Battlestars were designed as all-in-one fleet ships with the ability to re-arm and resupply their attendant fleet.  I heard somewhere that they have 10 yrs. worth of water onboard (recycling included).  All those supplies take up room.  Something tells me this is more of a battleship than a battlestar, as in a ship designed specifically to carry guns and strikecraft  and operate in friendly territory where resupplying is not an issue.  Think Bolitho on steroids.
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Post by: Ace on January 26, 2009, 10:20:01 pm
In all seriousness, we have a rather balanced fleet doctrine in mind for Diaspora. Keeping in mind that ships such as the Valkyerie show a more specialized trend than the Galactica.

As seen with the Bolitho, we have our own concepts and plans of implementing this, while trying to avoid kitbashes.
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Post by: Snagger on January 27, 2009, 05:46:08 am
I like it - it's a simple and practical mini Battlestar of the same vintage as the Galactica and not much smaller than a Valkyrie.  Think of it as an HMS Invincible class equivalent, while the Galactica is like the USS Forrestal and the Pegasus like a Nimitz class.  The RN carriers were going to be much more effective in patrolling the GIUK gap, while the big US carriers are morre effective in the open oceans.  Or you could compare it to a USMC "Harrier carrier", which is also considerably smaller than a Nimitz class, but still plays a vital role.

I wouldn't like to be combat landing a damaged Viper or Raptor on those small strips bwtewwn the upper large engines and ablove the small engines, and it colud be a bit of a danger to the ship itself, but the approach path to the landing pods on all the various Battlestar designs (TOS and TNS, inculding the Defender) have the same problem of an approach path that is very close to the blindingly bright engines, witha  potential for some sort of wake and the worry about a collision inside the engine (surely a very severe occurence for the big ship?).
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Post by: Martini562 on January 27, 2009, 01:48:20 pm
This ship would only be for the experienced viper pilots, since there's no possibility to wave off and not crash into the ship. For obvious reasons
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Post by: MR_T3D on January 27, 2009, 02:01:07 pm
This ship would only be for the experienced viper pilots, since there's no possibility to wave off and not crash into the ship. For obvious reasons
just like galactica in ToS
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Post by: Adalla on January 30, 2009, 12:40:02 am
I love seeing different ship designs and arrangements, especially smaller ones.

Really fantastic work. Keep it up m8! Love the dual landing "runways".
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Post by: Black Wolf on February 03, 2009, 10:32:29 am
How are those guns going to rotate? They'll bash into each other.

I'm not a fan TBH. As has been mentioned, it looks very much like a kitbash (even though I know the creator almost certainly made it from scratch). One of the joys of 3d effects is that kitbashing can be relegated to the past - take inspiration from existing designs, don't just cut bits out here and there and call it something new.

All that aside (and on to the fun stuff of making things up :D) to me it looks like a military supply vessel. Remove those 4 guns (replace with one) and you're good. The runways are solely for raptors and shuttles, as well (in all likelihood) as some kind of special cargo ship that's capable of making non combat landings on battlestar decks to transfer ammunition, fuel etc. to keep the ship fighting without it neccesarily having to dock with a station. Explains the inability for vipers to make a safe landing there, the scale of the ship, its poor armament and, since it would have been a product of the last Cylon war (resupply ships like this would rarely get upgraded in non wartime) it's justifiable how much it looks like Galactica.
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Post by: Snagger on February 03, 2009, 12:21:11 pm
Assuming it has the same arrangement of ventral armament as the Galactica, then it's punch equates to half that of the Glactica itself.  That makes it a pretty effective mutli-purpose cruiser with plenty of punch, requireing a hell of a lot resources and crew than a Galactica class Battlestar.  Given it's roughly half the size and has roughly half the armament, two could be built and crewd for the price of one Galactica, and that allows a lot more flexibility on deployments and operations, and allows more advantageous tactics than a single craft permits.  It looks viable to me - there's no reason Vipers couldn't use it; there could be some kind of arrestor barrier to prevent screwed up landings going too "deep", a bit like the RHAGs (the raised catch nets at the ends of the runway) on NATO runways and carriers.