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Modding, Mission Design, and Coding => The Modding Workshop => Topic started by: JGZinv on February 01, 2009, 02:10:18 am

Title: Idea: Instant Directional Flip
Post by: JGZinv on February 01, 2009, 02:10:18 am
Ok so basically the name needs work, but you are traveling one direction, press a key setup
for that sole function, and you instantly do a full 180 turn and keep going.

I'd imagine this is used in several other games, but I picked it up from Ace Online/AirRivals/Space Cowboy/Flysis.

Think it's possible or would it require something as fancy as scripting to pull off?

Might add another tactic to dogfighting, as well as the speed mods for run & gun barrages.
Title: Re: Idea: Instant Directional Flip
Post by: Herra Tohtori on February 01, 2009, 06:10:22 am
As much as FreeSpace does have arcade elements... Combos are not one of them and hopefully never will.

It's not difficult to turn your ship 180 degrees manually. It would make sense if there were g-forces to worry about (for example German WW2 dive bombers had dive brakes and an autopilot that automatically pulled the bomber out of the dive after bomb release since the forces required to pull out of the dive were bigger than the pilots coult reliably handle) but we don't so in my opinion there's zero reason to have such stuff added.


Technically, I suppose it could be done with autopilot but I don't know if that itself requires scripting...

On the other hand, I suppose Shadows of Lylat team has a justification to add at least one "combo" purely for historical reasons. One that is enabled by pressing Z or R twice... :lol:
Title: Re: Idea: Instant Directional Flip
Post by: Snail on February 01, 2009, 06:27:10 am
Barrel roll... Not always the best choice.
Title: Re: Idea: Instant Directional Flip
Post by: JGZinv on February 01, 2009, 12:17:50 pm
*slaps own face*

Has any of the topics I've started ever been concerned with the canon of FS2?

I'm interested in mod uses, new territory that's uncharted.
Like I've said many times before, I do not care if it's physically possible to our minds
under conditions we know of today... I can make an excuse for it to be there.
Title: Re: Idea: Instant Directional Flip
Post by: Snail on February 01, 2009, 12:38:40 pm
Honestly, the SCP guys have more important things to do than implement a control that allows you to do a flip.
Title: Re: Idea: Instant Directional Flip
Post by: castor on February 01, 2009, 01:07:11 pm
Its not a flip!! Its a  space-time discontinuity effect!
 :yes:
Title: Re: Idea: Instant Directional Flip
Post by: redsniper on February 02, 2009, 05:01:31 pm
Would you keep moving in the direction you were originally traveling like with glide, or are you wanting an instant velocity change (which is another matter entirely)?
Title: Re: Idea: Instant Directional Flip
Post by: Fade Rathnik on February 03, 2009, 03:31:25 pm
I think he is talking about some kind of portal flip or mirror type thing
Title: Re: Idea: Instant Directional Flip
Post by: Commander Zane on February 03, 2009, 03:58:51 pm
No, he's talking about the 180 degree spins like what you could do on all the old FPS games like Duke Nukem 3D, hit key, *wham,* I'm facing my six.
Title: Re: Idea: Instant Directional Flip
Post by: Herra Tohtori on February 03, 2009, 04:08:08 pm
Mmm... portals... now there's a different and totally worthwhile thought.

Shouldn't it be possible to change position and velocity vectors via scripting already...? :nervous: Hit the surface of the Monolith and you end up coming out of another monolith... unless it's full of stars.
Title: Re: Idea: Instant Directional Flip
Post by: Commander Zane on February 03, 2009, 04:17:50 pm
Portal...

In space. :lol:
Title: Re: Idea: Instant Directional Flip
Post by: JGZinv on February 03, 2009, 07:20:36 pm
No, he's talking about the 180 degree spins like what you could do on all the old FPS games like Duke Nukem 3D, hit key, *wham,* I'm facing my six.


That is what I'm after....

For illustration:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BAs_Tmg0vtA&feature=related

 at :30, :34, :44, :45, 1:09, 1:20, and 1:23
Title: Re: Idea: Instant Directional Flip
Post by: Kiloku on February 05, 2009, 11:35:16 am
Portal...

In space. :lol:
That gave me an idea...
Aperture Science Ship Mounted Portal Device. :P
Title: Re: Idea: Instant Directional Flip
Post by: BengalTiger on February 05, 2009, 01:03:48 pm
A tutorial on the glide feature would be usefull here.
Title: Re: Idea: Instant Directional Flip
Post by: JGZinv on February 05, 2009, 02:25:22 pm
I'm not talking about Glide though... Glide is something else entirely.
Title: Re: Idea: Instant Directional Flip
Post by: BengalTiger on February 06, 2009, 01:37:39 pm
I'll have to try this combo:

glide on+flip 180+glide off+burners and see what happens.

Might be pretty similar to an instant U-Turn.
Title: Re: Idea: Instant Directional Flip
Post by: Commander Zane on February 07, 2009, 12:36:14 am
Since AirRivals was mentioned here...and I saw something on it that made me laugh my head off...

(http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/3148/wtfvs6.png)

 ;7
Title: Re: Idea: Instant Directional Flip
Post by: Dilmah G on February 07, 2009, 03:14:25 am
Since AirRivals was mentioned here...and I saw something on it that made me laugh my head off...

(http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/3148/wtfvs6.png)

 ;7

I think I remember seeing something like that in the FS credits.
Title: Re: Idea: Instant Directional Flip
Post by: Commander Zane on February 07, 2009, 03:16:03 am
After my three bomber wings disarm and disable this Colossus (GWII Part II), I'm going to check the credits now... :nervous: