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Title: Representative John Conyers: "Our Responsibility"
Post by: Rick James on February 01, 2009, 05:55:29 pm
Clicky. (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/john-conyers/our-responsibility_b_162704.html)

Discuss.
Title: Re: Representative John Conyers: "Our Responsibility"
Post by: Herra Tohtori on February 01, 2009, 06:42:34 pm
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To me, the bottom line is this: If we move on now without fully documenting what occurred, without acknowledging the betrayal of our values, and without determining whether or not any laws have been broken, we cannot help but validate all that has gone on before. If we look at the Bush record and conclude that the book should simply be closed, we will be tacitly approving both the documented abuses and the additional misdeeds we will have chosen to leave uncovered.

That is why there is nothing partisan about the call for further review. In the end, these acts were not taken by George Bush, or by John Yoo, or even by Dick Cheney - they were taken by the United States of America. By all of us. There is no avoiding the responsibility we all bear for what has been done, and for what we choose to do next.

 :yes:

From an outside point of view, this makes perfect sense.
Title: Re: Representative John Conyers: "Our Responsibility"
Post by: Kosh on February 02, 2009, 07:44:48 am
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this makes perfect sense.


You'd think so, but then again 44% of the US still voted for McCain, whose platform was mostly "Bush Jr. 2.0".
Title: Re: Representative John Conyers: "Our Responsibility"
Post by: karajorma on February 02, 2009, 09:59:12 am
It does make me laugh that the idea of having an investigation when the law might have been broken is seen as a bad thing. The British police on the other hand investigated Blair while he was still Prime Minister over other allegations. I'd have loved to have seen someone in America have had the balls for that. :D 
Title: Re: Representative John Conyers: "Our Responsibility"
Post by: Janos on February 02, 2009, 10:28:15 am
It does make me laugh that the idea of having an investigation when the law might have been broken is seen as a bad thing. The British police on the other hand investigated Blair while he was still Prime Minister over other allegations. I'd have loved to have seen someone in America have had the balls for that. :D 

let me quickly explain:
when someone does something which offends republicans, it's playing politics

politics are bad thing because they are not true and objective

this is especially true when people play politics in political arena

if a politican does something and is investigated it is playing politics because a politician is involved ergo it is a bad thing

which is bad, because politics are bad, and therefore I elect politicians to not play politics

Title: Re: Representative John Conyers: "Our Responsibility"
Post by: karajorma on February 02, 2009, 10:35:44 am
Unless it's Bill Clinton of course. :D
Title: Re: Representative John Conyers: "Our Responsibility"
Post by: Janos on February 02, 2009, 11:32:22 am
Unless it's Bill Clinton of course. :D

well sucking dick is objectively bad and therefore impeachment process is unpolitical but trying to investigate whether or not the president broke laws is political because hey this one guy here says it is ok so who are you to judge therefor politics
Title: Re: Representative John Conyers: "Our Responsibility"
Post by: Ace on February 02, 2009, 01:12:47 pm
You have it backwards, as republicans get into scandals for sucking dick and that's politically motivated.

Having your dick sucked, now that is morally wrong by every standard!
Title: Re: Representative John Conyers: "Our Responsibility"
Post by: Janos on February 02, 2009, 01:18:25 pm
You have it backwards, as republicans get into scandals for sucking dick and that's politically motivated.

Having your dick sucked, now that is morally wrong by every standard!

silent, don't try to play politics with your "logic" and stuff

Title: Re: Representative John Conyers: "Our Responsibility"
Post by: TrashMan on February 02, 2009, 01:58:11 pm
blowjobs are evil and wrong?
Title: Re: Representative John Conyers: "Our Responsibility"
Post by: Janos on February 02, 2009, 02:28:51 pm
blowjobs are evil and wrong?

dont try to play politics with your questions yo fool
Title: Re: Representative John Conyers: "Our Responsibility"
Post by: pecenipicek on February 02, 2009, 03:32:11 pm
blowjobs are evil and wrong?

dont try to play politics with your questions yo fool
*sigh*
Title: Re: Representative John Conyers: "Our Responsibility"
Post by: Janos on February 02, 2009, 04:05:40 pm
blowjobs are evil and wrong?

dont try to play politics with your questions yo fool
*sigh*

well is seriously is like that
"a legitimate concern?!? hmm better quickly to attack the person and accuse them of playing politics! why can't we all just let the history be?" *masturbates over the corpse of FDR*
Title: Re: Representative John Conyers: "Our Responsibility"
Post by: Herra Tohtori on February 02, 2009, 04:11:27 pm
Janos, you're not thinking of the children here. Besides I suspect you have terrorist symphaties under all your agendas, so your opinions are null and void.
Title: Re: Representative John Conyers: "Our Responsibility"
Post by: Janos on February 02, 2009, 04:14:21 pm
Janos, you're not thinking of the children here. Besides I suspect you have terrorist symphaties under all your agendas, so your opinions are null and void.

america **** YEAH
Title: Re: Representative John Conyers: "Our Responsibility"
Post by: BloodEagle on February 03, 2009, 10:12:00 pm
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To me, the bottom line is this: If we move on now without fully documenting what occurred, without acknowledging the betrayal of our values, and without determining whether or not any laws have been broken, we cannot help but validate all that has gone on before. If we look at the Skynet record and conclude that the book should simply be closed, we will be tacitly approving both the documented abuses and the additional misdeeds we will have chosen to leave uncovered.

Rep. John Conner: For the win.