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General FreeSpace => FreeSpace Discussion => Topic started by: terran_emperor on February 20, 2009, 11:40:12 pm
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Okay Ive several theories regarding the Shivans. But I'll only post one for now
What the Shivans are
The Shivans are the Great Preservers. Or in MMORPG terms
Every Race are Players
The Ancients a race who went round commiting Genocide on a massive scale are PKers - Player Killers, players who goe round gratuitously killing other players.
The Shivans are the PKKers- Thats Player Killer Killer > Players who kill those who kill other players.
Shivan Culture
1) Shivans communicate through quantum wave pulses instead of Verbally. Verbal communication like humans and Vasudans use is the Shivans equivalent to using hand signals or Semaphore.
2) Shivans take insults of any kind very personally. If one shivan insults another, it results in a major blood feud. The losing side's forces and resources are absorbed or destroyed by the winning side. So one shivan never insults another unless he can backup his words
3) Shivans worship their Mothers. Shivan society revolves around their mothers. So never insult a Shivan's mother. When this happens it usually results in a holy war against the offending party. The only way to appologise is to offer the severed head and spleen of the offender to the insulted party.
The Great War
In their roles as the Universal PKKers, the Shivans observed the TV War. They chose not to interfere because it was looking to head towards mutual destruction for both sides. However, they kept the Lucifer on standby in case they had to act.
The Shivan observation fleet then encountered the GTI who eventually tried to commicate. Due to cultural and Liguistic differences resulted in the GTI effectivly "giving the Finger" or saying in Semaphore somthing along the lines of "Up yours, you s**t faced w***ers!" to the Lucifers. The result was one seriously pissed off Shivan Admiral who basically decided to avenge this Slight on their honour by saying "F**k observing i'm taking these SOBs out now." The Rest of the fleet Agreed and followed the Lucifer into battle. And we all know how that ended so you dont need me to tell you
The Second Shivan Incursion
After The Great War, Shivan High Command decided to leave the GTVA alone - they felt The spirit co-opperation between the Terrans and Vasudans when faced with anihilation would keep the GTVA way from Genocidal rampages and thus out of the Shivan's hitlist. The HoL and NTF wars were felt to be internal police matters and not worth the Shivan's attention. But that Changed when the BTC Trinity entered the Nebula
When the NTC Trinity entered the Nebula and attempted to communicate with the shivans in the Area via Quantum Wave pulses as is normal for the Shivans. Unfortunatly bad translation resulted resulted in the Trinity insulting the Shivans' mothers. In shivan culture insulting someone's mother is just about the worst thing you can do, so filled with righteous fury, the Shivans swore vengence and declaired Holy War against those who had insulted them so.
The signals from the SC Rephaim were challenges to Bosch and the GTVA to take back what had been said about their mothers. The Sathanas was also called in take capella hostage until the appology had been made. However it ran afoul of the Colossus.
Then bosch tried to forge an alliance. Unfortunatly in the Shinvan language, Bosch's message was the very worst insult imaginable. So bosch and his crew were captured and taken away for execution. By this time the Shivans realised that Bosch was a Renegade on the Run from the GTVA. So rather that take their Holy War to the GTVA, the Shivans instead decided to send them a message. However, since normal communication was impossible both ways, the shivans decided to resort to extreme methods.
The 111th Juggernaught Brigade was deployed to capella. The crew of the first Sathanas were also avenged when the Colossus was destroyed. The shivans then nuked the Stars. This was their way of saying "F**k off and leave us alone. This is what we are capable of. F**king well behave or we will do this you."
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Is this suppose to be serious? :lol:
In any cases, a very amusing perception of Shivans and their actions.
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No iv a more serious theory i posted once ages ago
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Lol, severed head and spleen.
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:lol:
I still like this (http://www.hard-light.net/wiki/index.php/Trailer_Shivan_Theory) one better, though, because of the sheer absurdity (and the fact that it was used in DEM as well with the l3375p34|<1|\|9 5h1\/4|\|5).
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:wtf:
Terran: Your mother was gr8 in bed last nite, LOL.
Shivan: .................. I will annihilate your species.
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The 111th Juggernaught Brigade LOL
By the way, why are these ships always called Juggernaughts instead of the original Juggernaut word?
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Cause juggernaughts just looks so much cooler. :P
Anyways, intriguing theory. Though it seems unlikely that GTI would get their "insults" right on the first try. They probably transmitted gibberish and the Shivan equivalent of "baby talk" on their first few..... hundred... tried...
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That and I can never remember how to spell it. besides Dreadnaught is spellt NAUGHT instead of NAUT. Why should Juggernaut be different - in this case i say "f**k the Oxford Dictionary!" and spell it JuggerNAUGHT.
Besides you wave your hands and fingers about randomly you will eventually make a rude hand gesture.
:wtf:
Terran: Your mother was gr8 in bed last nite, LOL.
Shivan: .................. I will annihilate your species.
I was thinking more along the lines of "Your Mother was a hampster and your father smellt of Elderberries. Now go away before i have to taunt you some more!" when i thought this up - Id just watched Quest for the Holy Grail.
Makes me think that Every Shivan model should have the words "Do not Taunt" written on them somewhere
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That and I can never remember how to spell it. besides Dreadnaught is spellt NAUGHT instead of NAUT. Why should Juggernaut be different - in this case i say "f**k the Oxford Dictionary!" and spell it JuggerNAUGHT.
Just to clarify -> we can use juggernaught as a new word, which refers to the omg big sheepz, (juggernaut + dreadnaught), but the original war doesn't necessarily mean big ship, it's just big something.
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Why don't you look for the word "Juggernaut" on the Internet and find out what it means? There's no need to spell it "Juggernaught".
The following is a public letter:
On a side note, guys, if your theories aren't serious then don't post them here. Choose General Discussion instead. I find this kind of jokes a bit irritating because they somewhat reduce the levels of seriety and value of fan made theories.
Thanks in advance for your attention,
Mobius
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The following is a public letter:
Do what you want! The Mobius has no secret police!
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The following is a public letter:
Do what you want! The Mobius has no secret police!
LOLlypop! :D
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my theory is that ppl who write in blue ink have "ED"
discuss.......
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Which ED?
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Which ED?
this one
http://familydoctor.org/online/famdocen/home/men/reproductive/109.html (http://familydoctor.org/online/famdocen/home/men/reproductive/109.html)
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my theory is that ppl who write in blue ink have "ED"
I agree with that!
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Oi you guys can insult Mobius all you want - just do it some where else. I don't want this thread locked.
Edit: In fact can a Mod please remove Replies #14-#17 so we can keep this clean
As for you Mobius...Well there are a lot of non-serious threads in Gereral FreeSpace Discussion why should mine be in a different section?
Edit 2: And prehaps i should have phrased one of my earliar responses better.
The Idea that the Shivan's are universal PKKers (they only target those who slaughter other's on a large scale) is basically what is theorized in the FS1 ending cutscene. I just put it in MMORPG terms.
I also decided to add some unusual species quirks to the Mix.
1) The Shivans really don't like to be insulted
2) The Shivans ABSOLUTELY do not like it when you insult their Mother's.
I mean for as much as we know about the Shivans it could be true - very unlikely nut still within the Realms of possibility.
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The following is a public letter:
On a side note, guys, if your theories aren't serious then don't post them here. Choose General Discussion instead. I find this kind of jokes a bit irritating because they somewhat reduce the levels of seriety and value of fan made theories.
Thanks in advance for your attention,
Mobius
Or as an alternative, you can let those of us who are actual moderators of this board determine what does and doesn't belong here. Savvy?
(And I'm not removing anything, but knock off the ED talk. :p)
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That and I can never remember how to spell it. besides Dreadnaught is spellt NAUGHT instead of NAUT. Why should Juggernaut be different - in this case i say "f**k the Oxford Dictionary!" and spell it JuggerNAUGHT.
Besides you wave your hands and fingers about randomly you will eventually make a rude hand gesture.
That doesn't even work because it's spelled "Dreadnought"
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Also, Juggernaut does not even come from the same root word(s)...
Juggernaut comes from Sanskrit, from the name for 'Lord of the Universe' - "Jagannātha".
Dreadnought comes from 'Dread' and 'nought'...(dreads nothing/fears nothing)...or something like that.
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Also, Juggernaut does not even come from the same root word(s)...
Juggernaut comes from Sanskrit, from the name for 'Lord of the Universe' - "Jagannātha".
Dreadnought comes from 'Dread' and 'nought'...(dreads nothing/fears nothing)...or something like that.
Can we not turn this thread into a discussion on the English language
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You can...if you want it to meet its end soon afterwards. :p
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Also, Juggernaut does not even come from the same root word(s)...
Juggernaut comes from Sanskrit, from the name for 'Lord of the Universe' - "Jagannātha".
Dreadnought comes from 'Dread' and 'nought'...(dreads nothing/fears nothing)...or something like that.
That would make a nice name for some Sathanas-like class of Juggernau[gh]t.
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This theory put several lines into my head:
Terran: "It's a fine day to go walking on the beach."
Shivan: "We are oxygen intolerant. You must know this, and said this to spite me. Prepare to get frakking owned."
Vasudan: "You fight like a Vasudan!"
Shivan: "You say I fight like a VASUDAN? It's bad enough that you say this to TERRANS, but to US? Third Invasion, coming up."
A Terran and Vasudan are fighting. A flying shoe smacks a nearby Shivan. The Shivan beamz them both.
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lol :lol: