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Title: There is something out there...
Post by: Grizzly on March 12, 2009, 05:39:41 am
When playing trough ST:R, I noticed that on a few missions, there was a flashing red blip on the radar, which seemed to had no purpose at all. I tried investigating this blip, and failed.

I feel like being watched.
Title: Re: There is something out there...
Post by: Locutus of Borg on March 12, 2009, 06:12:37 am
I only noticed this in the Last Hurrah but decided not to look because it had me flying on a course facing the star

lol
Title: Re: There is something out there...
Post by: Goober5000 on March 12, 2009, 11:05:47 am
It's for the event music.
Title: Re: There is something out there...
Post by: Locutus of Borg on March 12, 2009, 03:10:29 pm
O I C
Title: Re: There is something out there...
Post by: Snail on March 12, 2009, 04:03:55 pm
It's for the event music.
Is there a reason why there isn't a SEXP which allows us to trigger the music manually?


(and I understand it wouldn't be used in FSPort cuz it has to be retail compatible, but still)
Title: Re: There is something out there...
Post by: ShadowGorrath on March 12, 2009, 05:19:54 pm
Is it just me, or would keeping retail compatability hold out on some possible features that STR could have had?
Title: Re: There is something out there...
Post by: Goober5000 on March 12, 2009, 07:59:29 pm
Certain things would have been easier, like the Sneak attack in "Blood of the Innocents".  And I ran out of sexps two-thirds of the way through FREDding "He Who Rides the Tiger", so I had to go over the events with a fine-toothed comb to squeeze every last node I could out of them.  (Take a look at all the send-message-list conversations in that mission.)

But ST:R does has a bunch of FSO features; they're just not activated in retail due to judicious version-specific commenting.  The custom main halls, custom debriefing personas, cruiser nameplates, ai profile, FS1 music tracks, and FS1 hud are all FSO features.
Title: Re: There is something out there...
Post by: Stormkeeper on March 12, 2009, 08:38:23 pm
It's for the event music.
Heh. It may be for the event music, but it sure as hell has a big psychological effect. :P
Title: Re: There is something out there...
Post by: FreeSpaceFreak on March 14, 2009, 06:46:03 am
Certain things would have been easier, like the Sneak attack in "Blood of the Innocents".  And I ran out of sexps two-thirds of the way through FREDding "He Who Rides the Tiger", so [...]
You ran out of SEXPs!? Is that possible?
Title: Re: There is something out there...
Post by: Galemp on March 14, 2009, 09:37:22 am
Heh. It may be for the event music, but it sure as hell has a big psychological effect. :P

You know I hadn't actually ever considered that... but you're right. :D
Title: Re: There is something out there...
Post by: Locutus of Borg on March 14, 2009, 10:22:19 am
ST:R had a custom main hall?

Title: Re: There is something out there...
Post by: Galemp on March 14, 2009, 12:53:19 pm
New music means you need another main hall.
Title: Re: There is something out there...
Post by: Locutus of Borg on March 14, 2009, 01:27:53 pm
But ST:R does has a bunch of FSO features; they're just not activated in retail due to judicious version-specific commenting.  The custom main halls, custom debriefing personas, cruiser nameplates, ai profile, FS1 music tracks, and FS1 hud are all FSO features.
Title: Re: There is something out there...
Post by: Goober5000 on March 14, 2009, 04:06:15 pm
You ran out of SEXPs!? Is that possible?
Yes, retail FS2 has a sexp limit.
Title: Re: There is something out there...
Post by: tinfoil on March 14, 2009, 04:55:36 pm
I didn't get the fso features. How do you activate them?
 
Title: Re: There is something out there...
Post by: blowfish on March 14, 2009, 06:38:14 pm
I didn't get the fso features. How do you activate them?

They should be activated just by using FSO...

Yes, retail FS2 has a sexp limit.

Code: [Select]
;;FSO 3.6.0;;$Formula: ( when
;;FSO 3.6.0;;   ( true )
;;FSO 3.6.0;;   ( do-something )
;;FSO 3.6.0;;)
;;FSO 3.6.0;;+Name: Some Event
;;FSO 3.6.0;;+Repeat Count: 1
;;FSO 3.6.0;;+Interval: 1

Or something like that ... such SEXPs would be ignored by retail, and as such would not count toward that SEXP limit.
+Team: 0
Title: Re: There is something out there...
Post by: Goober5000 on March 14, 2009, 07:35:57 pm
Yes, retail FS2 has a sexp limit.

Code: [Select]
;;FSO 3.6.0;;$Formula: ( when
;;FSO 3.6.0;;   ( true )
;;FSO 3.6.0;;   ( do-something )
;;FSO 3.6.0;;)
;;FSO 3.6.0;;+Name: Some Event
;;FSO 3.6.0;;+Repeat Count: 1
;;FSO 3.6.0;;+Interval: 1

Or something like that ... such SEXPs would be ignored by retail, and as such would not count toward that SEXP limit.
+Team: 0
You misunderstand.  I ran out of sexps in "He Who Rides the Tiger" when I was using verbose events.  With judicious optimization I got it down below the retail sexp limit.
Title: Re: There is something out there...
Post by: eliex on March 14, 2009, 08:19:55 pm
About the flashing blip: I thought that it was an egg about secret GTI rebels observing important operations the player happened to participate in and how they affected GTI Operations.
Title: Re: There is something out there...
Post by: Galemp on March 14, 2009, 10:15:28 pm
About the flashing blip: I thought that it was an egg about secret GTI rebels observing important operations the player happened to participate in and how they affected GTI Operations.

It is. That has always been the intention. You are correct. It was always our objective to have that blip visible. We have always been at war with Eurasia.
Title: Re: There is something out there...
Post by: Stormkeeper on March 15, 2009, 10:58:29 am
Rofl.
Title: Re: There is something out there...
Post by: Snail on March 15, 2009, 11:10:17 am
It is. That has always been the intention. You are correct. It was always our objective to have that blip visible. We have always been at war with Eurasia.
Congrats, Interceptor rations have gone up from 30 to 10.
Title: Re: There is something out there...
Post by: DarthWang on March 16, 2009, 11:39:35 am
What kind of ship/object is it, anyway?
Title: Re: There is something out there...
Post by: Goober5000 on March 16, 2009, 12:59:17 pm
You could always look at the mission file...
Title: Re: There is something out there...
Post by: Circ on March 18, 2009, 12:47:10 am
It's for the event music.
Heh. It may be for the event music, but it sure as hell has a big psychological effect. :P

Hey it can be the new "Silent Hill Fog".  Cause when they originally designed the fog for Silent Hill (1999) it was put in on purpose so the game didn't look too much like crap and ran smoothe and it ended up adding atmosphere.
Title: Re: There is something out there...
Post by: Androgeos Exeunt on March 18, 2009, 06:43:35 am
There's a blip? I didn't notice.
Title: Re: There is something out there...
Post by: Goober5000 on March 18, 2009, 11:26:51 am
There's a blip? I didn't notice.
You're not supposed to.
Title: Re: There is something out there...
Post by: blowfish on March 18, 2009, 07:56:42 pm
Then why wasn't it stealthed instead of just hidden-from-sensors?
Title: Re: There is something out there...
Post by: Galemp on March 18, 2009, 11:21:53 pm
Because stealth enemies don't trigger the music.
Title: Re: There is something out there...
Post by: blowfish on March 18, 2009, 11:34:42 pm
Oh.