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Title: Inf outtakes download question
Post by: Dragon on March 17, 2009, 09:39:56 am
I would like to know is there any way to get ships dumped from Inferno not through fileplanet?
The problem is I'm a teenager from poland and I don't want to give them my personal data nor to pay them in dollars. Inferno was my first FS2 mod i played using retail ,and one of my favourites.
I also found out I'm not the only person here who dislike fileplanet ,so download for example on FSMods should get a warm welcome ,if anyone but me remember the outtakes.
Link to original thread with fileplanet downloads: http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/topic,46555.msg949176.html#msg949176

Also ,what are ships released here:
http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/topic,6032.msg94772.html#msg94772

They were in main INFR1 ,are those ships some other versions ,or just pre-release.
Title: Re: Inf outtakes download question
Post by: Rodo on March 17, 2009, 10:56:46 am
and if someone can please provide a fresh link to a INFA version?...

I've been wanting to play that campaign for quite some time and I could never finish dwnlding the hole thing... some troubles with the site's links.
Title: Re: Inf outtakes download question
Post by: Titan on March 17, 2009, 03:46:07 pm
EVERYTHING was included in INFR1. If you have it, then theres nothing else. And FSmods has all INF version, including INFA.
Title: Re: Inf outtakes download question
Post by: Snail on March 17, 2009, 03:59:03 pm
EVERYTHING was included in INFR1. If you have it, then theres nothing else. And FSmods has all INF version, including INFA.
Bull****, mate. ;)
Title: Re: Inf outtakes download question
Post by: Droid803 on March 17, 2009, 07:49:42 pm
EVERYTHING was included in INFR1. If you have it, then theres nothing else. And FSmods has all INF version, including INFA.

OH HOW I WISH.
Title: Re: Inf outtakes download question
Post by: eliex on March 17, 2009, 10:19:25 pm
OH HOW I WISH.

I for one would LOVE to get my hands on the SH Gargant.
Title: Re: Inf outtakes download question
Post by: Dragon on March 18, 2009, 05:51:00 am
EVERYTHING was included in INFR1. If you have it, then theres nothing else. And FSmods has all INF version, including INFA.

I don't think so ,of course for the ships in second link it's true ,but not for the outtakes.
If main INFR1 has outtakes i won't be still wondering how Sehat-Thor really looks (i know it's low-poly ,but i made Icanus reskin that looks decent so maybe i will give a new life also to Sehat-Thor).

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Title: Re: Inf outtakes download question
Post by: Mobius on March 19, 2009, 12:31:33 pm
Despite the interesting resking, that model file is outdated...
Title: Re: Inf outtakes download question
Post by: Androgeos Exeunt on March 19, 2009, 12:34:58 pm
How outdated is it? Very? ;)
Title: Re: Inf outtakes download question
Post by: Mobius on March 19, 2009, 01:03:22 pm
All you need to know is that INFR1's model is outdated. :p
Title: Re: Inf outtakes download question
Post by: Dragon on March 20, 2009, 05:21:45 am
If it's outdated ,why not to release an update?  :)
I know you have at least one unreleased HTL inferno ship and I think there are more.
So it will be awesome if you release a path for INFR1 with HTL ships.
Anyway i doubt you have HTL Sehat-thor so outtakes pack is the only place where i can get it.
Also ,shaders and recent nightly made even non-HTL ships look decent if textured properly ,and that's exactly what i want to do.
Take a look at this attachment.
Looks familiar?
I need Terran Superdreadnought ,but Icanus is already taken by another race, so i took Gigas.
Look funny ,but i don't have any ship of similar size.
These are latest textures ,but this is PCS2 render ,in game it looks a bit better.
Maybe Sehat-thor will be more sufficient.

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Title: Re: Inf outtakes download question
Post by: Mobius on March 20, 2009, 11:44:43 am
If it's outdated ,why not to release an update?  :)

Because the team can't be bothered to post screenshots and such...
Title: Re: Inf outtakes download question
Post by: Androgeos Exeunt on March 20, 2009, 12:52:19 pm
I'll be quite blunt with you, Dragon.

Your re-textured Gigas looks like a mould of the Oreoshepsut of JAD. :blah:

Because the team can't be bothered to post screenshots and such...

You're starting to remind me of the Chensit... :nervous:
Title: Re: Inf outtakes download question
Post by: Mobius on March 20, 2009, 01:06:45 pm
You're starting to remind me of the Chensit... :nervous:

And...?
Title: Re: Inf outtakes download question
Post by: Snail on March 20, 2009, 01:14:43 pm
lol @ Giga-orion
Title: Re: Inf outtakes download question
Post by: Dragon on March 20, 2009, 01:43:37 pm
Your re-textured Gigas looks like a mould of the Oreoshepsut of JAD. :blah:

Ehh... I feared that.
But how i can get any 20KM long ship other than Gigas ,Icanus and  Apocalypse (with orion-ish texturing look even weirder than gigas)?

Anyway I just hoped somebody who downloaded INFouttakes will upload them to FSMods ,maybe another server (not rapidshare please) not to start discussion of them being outdated.
Even outdated 20KM dreadnought is better than lack of the ship of it's size at all.
Title: Re: Inf outtakes download question
Post by: Mobius on March 20, 2009, 01:53:01 pm
First of all, you need to have a very good reason to feature a superjuggernaut sized vessel in your mod. People have been complaining about the presence of extremely big ships in Inferno. New INF releases will solve the problem under a plotline dev point of view, anyway.

So, in other words, think about it. I for one suggest the SSJ Dante by Nuke because it's very large, but not as large as the superjuggernauts featured in Inferno.
Title: Re: Inf outtakes download question
Post by: Dragon on March 21, 2009, 11:17:04 am
I do have a good reason  :) : It's SW based TC so they are needed.
Have you heard about Eclipse? If not read this: http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Eclipse_(ship)
The point is
Spoiler:
I want a ship that is a flagship of race even more powerful than Empire ,and second ,rebuilt version of Eclipse itself ,considering existence of this race and resistant to it's weapons ( mass drivers and beam weapons which can penetrate standard shields ).
I also want New Republic flagship but it doesn't need to be that big.
Gigas was placeholder for modified Eclipse ,all modified Empire ships have Orion-ish texturing (even Orion itself with only modified turret count is used as ISD replacement).
I would like to see Amaretsu as next generation SSD ,SSJ Dante with Orion-ish textures look even weirder than Gigas.
As for Icanus it's used as flagship of this new race ,his big gun is Shivan-ish hyperspace rift generator ,able to collapse a star by itself (or not ,this may change).
Also I need to be no connection of those two ships ,so same model with different textures isn't a good idea.
I like Icanus in current role ,so for Empire left Gigas and Sehat-thor.

So I have a reason to use 20KM ships and as you can see Gigas isn't best suited for what i want to do ,and Sechat-thor is unavailable for me.
Or maybe somebody have something even better than all these three ships ,complete ,but with no POF data or table.
I can use anything I can get in game using notepad and PCS2.
As I said before Dante looks too weird to be used.
Also ,I cannot rescale a ship without problems.
When I tried it with Karuna class frigate multipart turrets gone crazy.
They looked like there is no problem when idle, but when they started to rotate barrels got
completely out of place (and I rescaled it only to approx. 2000m because I wanted a destroyer).
On another model (Solaris from INF ,I payed attention to not have any multipart turrets) one turret got separated from the model ,FRED refused to show it and in game it was invisible and fly-through.
So that's why i want to use Sehat-thor.

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Title: Re: Inf outtakes download question
Post by: Commander Zane on March 21, 2009, 11:25:19 am
In my opinion the Dante doesn't shout Shivan at all. Neither does the Diablo.
Title: Re: Inf outtakes download question
Post by: Droid803 on March 21, 2009, 12:05:15 pm
Hey, the Gigas-Orion looks pretty good...
If you just make the central main weapon some MASSIVE railgun or something, with the entire length of the prongs being the acceleration rails...

The Dante-Orion just looks strange. Too many spikes.

The Sechat-Thor won't help you much there. Its a big Aten with an equally big Sobek fused to the front.
Title: Re: Inf outtakes download question
Post by: Mobius on March 22, 2009, 03:16:36 am
So I have a reason to use 20KM ships and as you can see Gigas isn't best suited for what i want to do ,and Sechat-thor is unavailable for me.

I see you have a good reason...but do you have the FREDding skills to manage a superjuggernaut?
Title: Re: Inf outtakes download question
Post by: Dragon on March 22, 2009, 03:03:13 pm
I know fredding this will be difficult ,but you will not see those two battle in first main campaign.

Spoiler:
Icanus will be appearing in the last "combat" mission and engaging one or two ships for plot purposes ,and will take part in final "parade" mission.
Eclipse will get attacked while under construction and take part in parade (I'm thinking of nonlineral campaign ,so if you fail to protect it things will get much worse and you will not see it on parade).
Both are flagships ,so you will almost certainly see them if I will make you visit home sector of either faction in second campaign (with is especially likely with Eclipse).


I will certainly learn a lot  when trying to get either ship moving.
Also i see a problem with hyperspacing ,especially i want to use $use Newtonian dampening in AI profile.
It will make it go on insane speed and certainly will be hard to make look decent.
Imagine this ship slowly emerging from the hyperspace and forcing all ships to cease fire (I will not say many more because it's a huge spoiler. The point is i want them to feel a bit like FS1 Shivans. I can only say it will explain a lot after blasting troublemakers).
Slow entering is my idea to compensate Newtonian dampening ,and when i tested it on Orion Refit it looked awesome ,and forced the ship to go mere65 mps ,which make it stand in place I wanted him.
On Icanus speed still will be huge (65mps will make it warp through 5 minutes) but it will be using LRBBeams
so i hope it will not make a problem (Rift Cannon will be scripted anyway).
As for flying above Eclipse it will be more like a planetary mission.
I want to use carriers extensively so there will be one point where bombers appear (although you will better stay away from it because it will be a heavy carrier with escort).
Also speed of fighters will increase to around 400mps (still lower than modern fighters ,but with 800mps and corresponding side speeds it starts to act like TMP getting very hard to control witout proper interface).
If there will ever be bugless build with TMP features and INF ship limits i will make fully Newtonian version.
Still it will be almost certainly very hard to FRED so superships will appear in last part of campaign.
Title: Re: Inf outtakes download question
Post by: High Max on March 26, 2009, 04:03:23 am
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Title: Re: Inf outtakes download question
Post by: Dragon on March 26, 2009, 06:59:47 am
Gigas had a brief appearance in Solar Wars ,along with Icanus.
They entered the system in one mission and started to fight ,but it wasn't very intresting.
I will use at Icanus and Gigas reskins in my campaign ,and maybe it will be more intresting than watching Icanus slowly slice Gigas with it's Punisher Cannon ( or Aurora? I don't know ,in table it's just named USilv ). Gigas's BFSbspacerifts are not making much difference ,and with entire battle taking place in background it's no more than a show. So I think the only threat that Gigas presented to player in it's entire career was a moment when you see it first time ,warping through jump node. If you don't know how huge is it you will most likely get rammed (happened to me when I flew this mission first time) ,especially when you are flying a heavy fighter.
Vinaashak's appearance was even more boring ,but I think it may be used if somebody will decide to make second chapter of Solar Wars.
Also ,if you will look under the hood of Tides of Darkness ,you will see intresting Vinaashak's reskin ,so I think it will appear in TOD sequel.
Title: Re: Inf outtakes download question
Post by: High Max on March 26, 2009, 01:03:55 pm
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Title: Re: Inf outtakes download question
Post by: Woomeister on March 26, 2009, 02:18:35 pm
Well the Gargant hasn't changed really since 2001 when it was made.
Title: Re: Inf outtakes download question
Post by: Mobius on March 26, 2009, 02:27:55 pm
INF SCP may feature the SH Gargant so there's no need to release it to the public now :p
Title: Re: Inf outtakes download question
Post by: eliex on March 27, 2009, 02:27:42 am
INF SCP may feature the SH Gargant so there's no need to release it to the public now :p

May? Just "may?"
After seeing that screenshot of the Gargant raining death on something in the INFR1 credits . . .  ;)
Title: Re: Inf outtakes download question
Post by: Androgeos Exeunt on March 27, 2009, 05:13:40 am
I think it's been mentioned before that the screenshot in question is inaccurate. :nervous:
Title: Re: Inf outtakes download question
Post by: Dragon on March 27, 2009, 08:29:51 am
Maybe you can do something like that:

I know two things about the Gargant: People want it and it's outdated (made in 2001 so most likely lo-poly).
Some time ago i saw this: http://councilor.deviantart.com/art/Shivan-Juggernaut-showcase-99775231
I thought that if you somewhat contact author of this model and obtain it ,you could create HTL Gargant and then release old one (please ,not on fileplanet) as another outtake.
So people will have the Gargant and you will have something new.
I will most likely not find place for him in my TC ,the only place where I seen ships of this size is the
B5 universe (compare it to Vorlon Planet Killer from TBP).
Anyway I never wanted Gargant ,just INF outtakes which are released ,but in place where I
(and apparently not only I) can't download it.
FSMods will be much better place for them.
Title: Re: Inf outtakes download question
Post by: Mobius on March 27, 2009, 01:39:40 pm
I'm afraid the polycount of large ships isn't supposed to exceed certain limits, so a HTL Gargant may not be a good idea.
Title: Re: Inf outtakes download question
Post by: Dragon on March 28, 2009, 02:48:26 pm
Of course it's a good idea ,if it will look better than now. Also ,the larger ship is ,the larger becomes each polygon ,so making it even a bit more detailed is certainly worth of it ,because now ,player will fly over huge plate ,curving somewhere on horizon. I got this feeling even over Icanus ,and Gargant is two times larger.
While it can be acceptable on Terran ship which can look like a box ,Shivan ships should have curves.
And I know you can make it even a bit better ,FSOpen raised the limits so it can have for example Hi-poly turrets.
 
Anyway I don't think you will soon release the Gargant ,so I'm uploading my own version named SH Shiva.
It's better than nothing ,reskinned DH Mothership from TBP with added thrusterglows.
It has only 18 turrets ,but the Gargant also don't have record in number of turrets ,so if you're looking for ships with high number of turrets search for "GTVA Titan" ,it has 163turrets IIRC (and I'm not talking about stratcomm's carrier ,there is a Titan juggernaut). Shiva also fits Shivan conception of not making two similar ships (Cain and Lilith are exception which confirms the rule) where it's even better than Gargant (oversized Sathanas with arms on back). You may wish to change the name ,Shiva was first that come to my mind ,but now I think "Kali" may fit better.
You will find it in "destroyers and juggernauts" category on FSMods. Have fun.

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Title: Re: Inf outtakes download question
Post by: Snail on March 28, 2009, 03:17:17 pm
I'm sorry... But... It, well, isn't better than the Gigas. The Gigas is far more detailed and doesn't have those weird tubes on the side. Also, the Gigas isn't buggy...

Keep trying though... It's always good to have more modders. :)
Title: Re: Inf outtakes download question
Post by: Dragon on March 28, 2009, 04:03:02 pm
So can you post picture of Gigas you're talking about?
There aren't many Gigas pictures out there ,maybe with better shot and latest mediavps it looks better.
Maybe somebody will find a use for my version ,I made it when writing the post ,from ship I never was close to ,so it's not the best model. It may be not better than Gigas ,but it's for sure better than nothing ,and nothing was what community had before I made it. Tubes are cruiser and fighter bays ,looks like purpose of
DH Mothership was deploying fighters and cruisers rather than fighting by itself.

Anyway when I started this thread I wanted to find a way to get INF outtakes ,not to discuss SH Gargant and it's replacement. It's funny how much some threads stray off topic.
Title: Re: Inf outtakes download question
Post by: Snail on March 28, 2009, 04:07:35 pm
New Gigas.

(http://inferno.hard-light.net/Screens/GigasR4-2.jpg)
(http://inferno.hard-light.net/Screens/GigasR4-3.jpg)
(http://inferno.hard-light.net/Screens/GigasR4-4.jpg)
(http://inferno.hard-light.net/Screens/GigasR4-5.jpg)
(http://inferno.hard-light.net/Screens/GigasR4-6.jpg)
Title: Re: Inf outtakes download question
Post by: Commander Zane on March 28, 2009, 04:27:51 pm
So that's Rakshasa's daddy. ;7
Who's the mother?
Title: Re: Inf outtakes download question
Post by: Snail on March 28, 2009, 04:30:44 pm
Probably some kind of gargantuan Moloch...
Title: Re: Inf outtakes download question
Post by: Woomeister on March 28, 2009, 04:39:29 pm
Bit more up to date shot than those old dev pics:
(http://inferno.hard-light.net/dec08-05.jpg)
Title: Re: Inf outtakes download question
Post by: Commander Zane on March 28, 2009, 04:48:30 pm
So big yet so far away. :lol:
Title: Re: Inf outtakes download question
Post by: Rhymes on March 28, 2009, 05:06:01 pm
 :jaw: :jaw: :jaw: :jaw: :jaw:  Wow.  ME WANTS!!!!!
Title: Re: Inf outtakes download question
Post by: High Max on March 28, 2009, 05:19:18 pm
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Title: Re: Inf outtakes download question
Post by: Woomeister on March 28, 2009, 05:22:10 pm
No its just beam free all, and fire-beam going off at the same time from the same turret.
Title: Re: Inf outtakes download question
Post by: Snail on March 28, 2009, 06:16:08 pm
That Gigas is just the Moloch, Sathanas, and Rakshasa models combined with extra turrets. A mix of parts. I did say long ago that it wasn't very original and for a SSJ class, it should be more original since it is a special class of ship.
No.

It is not a kitbash.
Title: Re: Inf outtakes download question
Post by: Woomeister on March 28, 2009, 06:23:03 pm
The original one was, the current one is not however. Though it is designed based on the Rakshasa, like the current INFR1 one was actually, there is definitely no Sathanas, Moloch or Ravana in there.
Title: Re: Inf outtakes download question
Post by: Androgeos Exeunt on March 28, 2009, 10:09:38 pm
I like the new Gigas. Still as big as ever, but more Shivan-like in appearance. My first thought was that it was a 20:1 scale of the Rakshasa affixed with the prongs of the Ravana in front. In short, I think it is an excellent combination of appearance and terror. :nod:
Title: Re: Inf outtakes download question
Post by: High Max on March 28, 2009, 10:42:56 pm
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Title: Re: Inf outtakes download question
Post by: Androgeos Exeunt on March 28, 2009, 11:29:32 pm
And I hope there are more massive Shivan ships of similar size where that came from in the Inferno canon. Sadly, it will be a while before we can touch Inferno, and seemingly INFA too.

Don't worry. There's always INFR1 and all the other mods to keep us occupied, not to mention drooling at the FTF MiG.
Title: Re: Inf outtakes download question
Post by: Mobius on March 29, 2009, 05:16:11 am
And I hope there are more massive Shivan ships of similar size where that came from in the Inferno canon. Sadly, it will be a while before we can touch Inferno, and seemingly INFA too.

Get a fake identity and attend the Uni for me so that I can have more FreeTime for INFA. :p
Title: Re: Inf outtakes download question
Post by: Dragon on March 29, 2009, 08:33:19 am
This new Gigas is awesome ,but as lo-poly as previous ,so if I had choice I don't know which one I would choose. I agree your Gigas is better than my Shiva ,but keep in mind Shiva is not a replacement for Gigas ,but for Gargant. I like current Gigas and as you could see I have retextured it ,but the Gargant really looks like modyfied Sathanas and Gargant was the reason why I released Shiva. The only flaw of your current Gigas is it's a bit too similar to Rakshasa ,and previous one better fitted Shivan "tradition" of not making two similar ships. So can you post current picture of the Gargant? I wonder how does it looks right now. Shiva really has nothing to do with Gigas
(I don't think making him second largest Shivan ever released does count).  :)
Title: Re: Inf outtakes download question
Post by: Mobius on March 29, 2009, 08:55:47 am
The Gargant is so much bigger than Superjuggernauts. It's a Hive.
Title: Re: Inf outtakes download question
Post by: Commander Zane on March 29, 2009, 08:56:29 am
Shivan "tradition" of not making two similar ships.
While the Cain and Lilith use the same hulls the Rakshasa is basically a mini-Ravana in terms of design features and loadout.
Title: Re: Inf outtakes download question
Post by: Mobius on March 29, 2009, 08:58:41 am
I fail to understand how the Ravana and the Rakshasa would be so similar in terms of design. :confused:
Title: Re: Inf outtakes download question
Post by: Androgeos Exeunt on March 29, 2009, 09:02:49 am
They both feature many prongs that shoot beams and do not curve inward.
Title: Re: Inf outtakes download question
Post by: Commander Zane on March 29, 2009, 09:11:14 am
I fail to understand how the Ravana and the Rakshasa would be so similar in terms of design. :confused:
They were made with offense in mind, their beam weaponry is concentrated all on the front, with the prongs, and even a spike on the bottom-aft of the ship that houses a AAA beam.
They certainly weren't designed to look alike if that's what you think I was trying to say, they aren't but they do share certain similarites in their designs.
Title: Re: Inf outtakes download question
Post by: Dragon on March 29, 2009, 09:26:12 am
The Gargant is so much bigger than Superjuggernauts. It's a Hive.


Shiva is also a hive ,it's 40Km long.
While the Cain and Lilith use the same hulls the Rakshasa is basically a mini-Ravana in terms of design features and loadout.
Cain and Lilith are exception that confirms the rule ,as for Ravana and Rakshasa I agree with Commander Zane ,they have similarities because of offensive role.
And they don't look like made from the same parts ,the thing which Gargant and new Gigas does.
I suggest to play around with textures.
Title: Re: Inf outtakes download question
Post by: Mobius on March 29, 2009, 09:26:46 am
They were made with offense in mind, their beam weaponry is concentrated all on the front, with the prongs, and even a spike on the bottom-aft of the ship that houses a AAA beam.

What's so special? That's the description of the average Shivan ship. The Shivans tend to mount their turrets on the front because, unlike Terrans(example), they don't fear flanking maneuvers(or better, they don't care if they lose ships that way).
Title: Re: Inf outtakes download question
Post by: Woomeister on March 29, 2009, 10:15:51 am
This new Gigas is awesome ,but as lo-poly as previous ,so if I had choice I don't know which one I would choose. I agree your Gigas is better than my Shiva ,but keep in mind Shiva is not a replacement for Gigas ,but for Gargant. I like current Gigas and as you could see I have retextured it ,but the Gargant really looks like modyfied Sathanas and Gargant was the reason why I released Shiva. The only flaw of your current Gigas is it's a bit too similar to Rakshasa ,and previous one better fitted Shivan "tradition" of not making two similar ships. So can you post current picture of the Gargant? I wonder how does it looks right now. Shiva really has nothing to do with Gigas
(I don't think making him second largest Shivan ever released does count).  :)
That Gigas actually has about 3x the polycount of the one used in R1. I think it's around 1.8k without turrets
The original design premise for the R1 Gigas was actually to make a giant Rakshasa looking thing. Which I now believe I succeeded in doing :D
The current Gargant is the same mesh as the one used in the current renders, just with more tiled mapping (to match its size) and an increased turret count
Title: Re: Inf outtakes download question
Post by: Raskolnikov on March 30, 2009, 12:27:34 am
The new Gigas is scary. :yes:

Title: Re: Inf outtakes download question
Post by: High Max on March 30, 2009, 03:36:02 am
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Title: Re: Inf outtakes download question
Post by: Dragon on March 30, 2009, 06:18:36 am
Look at previous page in this thread or click "screenshot" button at the download page on Freespace Mods.
Title: Re: Inf outtakes download question
Post by: Snail on March 30, 2009, 01:30:26 pm
The model is really buggy...
Title: Re: Inf outtakes download question
Post by: Woomeister on March 30, 2009, 01:34:36 pm
Another thing is, if you have a great video card, I don't think having a higher poly huge ship will hurt performance. Maybe a brand new Radeon HD card is so good that it isn't a worry.
Maybe, but you can't cater for what is usually a handful of people who have uber rigs when the majority are using far weaker specs systems.
Title: Re: Inf outtakes download question
Post by: High Max on March 30, 2009, 01:46:22 pm
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Title: Re: Inf outtakes download question
Post by: Dragon on April 02, 2009, 04:52:29 am
Yes ,I agree with High Max ,computer tech evolves very fast ,and especially given how fast Inferno is going we can assume that when it will be done ,computers will be able to well handle HTL Gargant ,maybe even a completely new version of Windows will be out ,so I think you can release the old model and make HTL one.
INF SCP should use mainly ,if not only ,HTL models.
Title: Re: Inf outtakes download question
Post by: Commander Zane on April 02, 2009, 05:41:29 am
Do you think Inferno would be done by the time they make a Final Fantasy XXVIII? :P
Title: Re: Inf outtakes download question
Post by: Woomeister on April 02, 2009, 06:45:36 am
INF SCP should use mainly ,if not only ,HTL models.
Sure, if you have someone willing to upgrade the remaining 80+ of them :nervous:
Title: Re: Inf outtakes download question
Post by: Mobius on April 02, 2009, 03:49:46 pm
Do you think Inferno would be done by the time they make a Final Fantasy XXVIII? :P

Yes.
Title: Re: Inf outtakes download question
Post by: Snail on April 02, 2009, 03:50:49 pm
Do you think Inferno would be done by the time they make a Final Fantasy XXVIII? :P
Oh, depends. Do you mean Inferno SCP, or Inferno as a project?
Title: Re: Inf outtakes download question
Post by: Mobius on April 02, 2009, 03:52:24 pm
It doesn't matter if you bring Final Fantasy XXVIII into the equation...
Title: Re: Inf outtakes download question
Post by: Snail on April 02, 2009, 03:53:40 pm
It doesn't matter if you bring Final Fantasy XXVIII into the equation...
I doubt Final Fantasy XXVIII will even be made... Come on Square would be a dead by then.
Title: Re: Inf outtakes download question
Post by: SpardaSon21 on April 02, 2009, 05:46:09 pm
Doubt it.  They've been around since Final Fantasy I all the way to XXII, and they just released The Last Remnant.  Plus I heard SquareEnix has the publishing rights to SupCom2.
Title: Re: Inf outtakes download question
Post by: Mobius on April 02, 2009, 07:04:11 pm
Ok, we're the way off topic.

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Title: Re: Inf outtakes download question
Post by: Dragon on April 03, 2009, 04:49:31 am
So let's get back on it.  :)
INF SCP should use mainly ,if not only ,HTL models.
Sure, if you have someone willing to upgrade the remaining 80+ of them :nervous:

I thought INF SCP is taking full adventage of SCP features ,so there will be HTL Models ,Hi-res textures ,high quality effects ,all in Mediavp standard ,if not better. If it uses old models why it's taking such long?
I was thinking: "OK ,it's taking very much time ,so I will most likely see the most polished and high quality mod within FS universe ,in the same quality level as FoTG or BtRL".
And I asked for outtakes because of thinking like "it will take a long time to release fully polished mod ,so I can use some old models and eventually replace them with better version later"
So can somebody put INF outtakes on FSMods please?
There was also HTL Earth model either on Fileplanet or completely unavailable (it means the same for me).
Can you also upload it (and maybe don't ask why)?
Title: Re: Inf outtakes download question
Post by: Mobius on April 03, 2009, 12:16:32 pm
Upgrading models needs time and a workforce. With Woomeister being the only active modeller, what do you expect? Also, the team is currently focused on INFASA so INF SCP is not a priority at the moment.

You're also forgetting that Inferno is not a mere set of new ships and weapons, only. There are campaigns of relevant importance based on the new Inferno continuity. If they're not done, the modpack can't be released.

HTL Earth model? We're using detailled bitmaps now, so no Earth model.
Title: Re: Inf outtakes download question
Post by: Dragon on April 03, 2009, 03:18:33 pm
I was thinking of this: http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/topic,37185.0.html
On the bottom of the post is awesome picture of Earth (don't worry about lightning ,I will find a solution)
I don't see this model in INF1Path I have. Files in this thread are all unavailable ,I would like to have Planet model of this quality. Can you upload those files elsewhere? As I have mentioned I would like to use HTL Earth ,as well as some other files (like Sehat-Thor from INFouttakes).
I know planet models aren't normally used ,but I'm sure you can make planet model that looks good. Those who seen X3 should know what I'm talking about. Moving atmosphere ,planet rotation (seen only on SETA ,but we also have time compression and it's quite useful on autopilot) with proper lighting and even clouds shadow on the ground (I think ,I have seen X3 on max graphics only once). I know It's hard to do ,but certainly possible (two submodels ,animated textures ,and it should work) when I'm unsure about animated backgrounds.
So I think instead of dumping Earth model you should remake it. Of course it's only my opinion ,I'm not a modeller or coder ,so I don't know what is really possible or not ,but I hope you will consider my suggestion when making INF SCP.
Whetever used in INF or not I have plans for Earth model ,and because INFR1 version is very lo-quailty ,I want to ask you to upload new model ,which I cannot find anywhere (and of course the outtakes).
Title: Re: Inf outtakes download question
Post by: Mobius on April 03, 2009, 03:56:18 pm
You should ask Shadow000 himself because that modified version of INFR1 is not official. In other words, it wasn't created by the Inferno Team.

About the Earth model - bitmaps are much easier to use...
Title: Re: Inf outtakes download question
Post by: Droid803 on April 03, 2009, 08:54:49 pm
Bitmaps are much easier to use, yeah.
Also, skyboxes are are a whole lot better as they don't have funky lighting issues. (And animated skyboxes work *points to subspace missions*)
Title: Re: Inf outtakes download question
Post by: General Battuta on April 03, 2009, 09:25:30 pm
Doubt it.  They've been around since Final Fantasy I all the way to XXII, and they just released The Last Remnant.  Plus I heard SquareEnix has the publishing rights to SupCom2.

You're about ten Final Fantasies ahead of yourself.

I'm looking forward to INFASA. However, I hope the Inferno team knows that most of us consider INF:SCP the real deal.
Title: Re: Inf outtakes download question
Post by: Mobius on April 15, 2009, 02:54:20 pm
I'm looking forward to INFASA. However, I hope the Inferno team knows that most of us consider INF:SCP the real deal.

You already know what, more or less, INF SCP will be about... shouldn't more original campaigns attract your attention?

I for one believe that INFA2 will be the best INF campaign. It's just an impression, though.
Title: Re: Inf outtakes download question
Post by: General Battuta on April 15, 2009, 03:06:32 pm
I'm looking forward to INFASA. However, I hope the Inferno team knows that most of us consider INF:SCP the real deal.

You already know what, more or less, INF SCP will be about... shouldn't more original campaigns attract your attention?

I for one believe that INFA2 will be the best INF campaign. It's just an impression, though.


INF SCP's setting and plot are more viscerally interesting than INFA's setting, which feels like more of a prelude or buildup.
Title: Re: Inf outtakes download question
Post by: Mobius on April 15, 2009, 03:07:49 pm
I don't think INFASA/INFA2's feel more like a prelude. They're indipendent on their own.