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Title: Giga Sathanas
Post by: Woomeister on March 28, 2001, 06:01:00 pm

For my campaign I need a bigger Shivan Juggernaught. With no way to create a new one from scratch I created this:

 (http://members.tripod.co.uk/SocWoo/giga.jpg)
FRED comparison
 http://members.tripod.co.uk/SocWoo/test.jpg (//"http://members.tripod.co.uk/SocWoo/test.jpg")  
The thing is since it is 4x longer, some of it's data needs redoing. I think I can handle the subsystems but I think I'll need help with the turrets, docking and path data.
I could use some help on this one. Is anyone interested?

This ship (as far as I know) is the second largest in FS. Slightly shorter than Machina Terra Apocalypse.  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)

I want to turn this into a planet destroyer. It will include new beams and some new weapons.

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Title: Giga Sathanas
Post by: Sushi on March 28, 2001, 08:53:00 pm

Wow.
If you add all the turrets and stuff for that thing, give it one big fat beam coming out of the front, and maybe change the model a bit to make it SOMEWHAT different from the current S., then you've got a winner IMO.  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)

A fighterbay big enough to launch a Lilith, probably.  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)

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Title: Giga Sathanas
Post by: NeoHunter on March 28, 2001, 11:05:00 pm

Looks the same Sathanas to me. Only bigger that's all.

Change the design.

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Title: Giga Sathanas
Post by: Woomeister on March 29, 2001, 02:21:00 am

I plan on reskinning it and changing the weapons once the model is complete.

Title: Giga Sathanas
Post by: Woomeister on March 29, 2001, 02:58:00 am

Ok I've had an attempt to reskin it

 (http://members.tripod.co.uk/SocWoo/reskin.jpg)

Now I'm off to uni.  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)

Title: Giga Sathanas
Post by: Setekh on March 29, 2001, 03:03:00 am

 

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Originally posted by NeoHunter:
Looks the same Sathanas to me. Only bigger that's all.

Change the design.

Uhh, dude, that's the whole point. Change the design - easier said than done, would you like to do it?  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/rolleyes.gif)  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/tongue.gif)

Title: Giga Sathanas
Post by: Nico on March 29, 2001, 05:36:00 am

Yes! I would! just send me a 3ds file  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/wink.gif)

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Title: Giga Sathanas
Post by: Woomeister on March 29, 2001, 08:43:00 am

I can't change it, I can't create models never mind edit one this big. I'd love to add tons of turrets to it. It'll have to do with the ones it already has  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)

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Title: Giga Sathanas
Post by: Woomeister on March 29, 2001, 09:01:00 am

 

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Originally posted by Sushi:
A fighterbay big enough to launch a Lilith, probably.   (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)

It's big enough to launch a wing of them.

Title: Giga Sathanas
Post by: Woomeister on March 29, 2001, 09:56:00 am

 

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Originally posted by venom2506:
Yes! I would! just send me a 3ds file   (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/wink.gif)

I can give you one of the ship if you really want it.  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)

Oops the pics are of the smaller version the actual size is 23691m. (23.6km) The render is the correct size, the rest are not.

Title: Giga Sathanas
Post by: Woomeister on March 30, 2001, 04:26:00 am

Well the turrets are starting to work.

 http://members.tripod.co.uk/SocWoo/firetst.jpg ("http://members.tripod.co.uk/SocWoo/firetst.jpg")

Still another 50+ to go  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)

Title: Giga Sathanas
Post by: Nico on March 30, 2001, 05:21:00 pm

well, if you send me a 3ds file of the Sathanas, I can modfy it enough to make it very different. Then you'll have to size it under TS like you want, and do all the remaining stuff. I have no time to do anything else, but I can quickly tweak the model.

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Title: Giga Sathanas
Post by: Woomeister on March 30, 2001, 05:46:00 pm

Well I've ran into a bit of a problem with it. I'll need a bit of help.

For some reason FS2 sometimes won't render parts of the ship so you can see right through it.

Also you don't collide with it you pass through it! (most of it)

Can anyone help with this?

Title: Giga Sathanas
Post by: DragonClaw on March 30, 2001, 09:28:00 pm

   Boosting the size like that probably caused the problem... is there some sort of 'hull' designator in the texture programs or anything that tells you where you can pass through and where not to?  Probably not.

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Title: Giga Sathanas
Post by: Terminal_Decline on March 31, 2001, 01:05:00 am

Looks good, but it needs bigger beams.  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)

Title: Giga Sathanas
Post by: Woomeister on March 31, 2001, 07:07:00 am

 

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Originally posted by Terminal_Decline:
Looks good, but it needs bigger beams.   (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)

Like these?

 (http://members.tripod.co.uk/SocWoo/newbeams.jpg)

Or do they need to be bigger?  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)



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Title: Giga Sathanas
Post by: Setekh on March 31, 2001, 08:30:00 am

****!

Title: Giga Sathanas
Post by: Jabu on March 31, 2001, 09:50:00 am

Damn that red x beam looks scary...

Title: Giga Sathanas
Post by: Terminal_Decline on March 31, 2001, 05:41:00 pm

Well, maybe just a little bigger... (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)

Title: Giga Sathanas
Post by: Woomeister on March 31, 2001, 06:23:00 pm

I'm having tons of problems with this ship, but I'll still be using it in my campaign. It only has to appear two or three times and fire a couple of beams. It's fine for what I need it for. Believe me you won't get anywhere near it. (50ish anti fighter beams)  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)
But, if anyone wants to try and fix this thing tell me.

I better tone down those beams, they blow everything up with one shot. Which is quite fun to watch  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)
They also have a massive range and usually fires 70000m from the target.

Title: Giga Sathanas
Post by: Setekh on March 31, 2001, 10:54:00 pm

 

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Originally posted by Terminal_Decline:
Well, maybe just a little bigger...  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)

You = crazy  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)

Title: Giga Sathanas
Post by: Woomeister on April 01, 2001, 02:09:00 pm

 (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)

Title: Giga Sathanas
Post by: Fineus on April 01, 2001, 04:21:00 pm

 

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Originally posted by Setekh:
****!

Title: Giga Sathanas
Post by: Sushi on April 01, 2001, 06:28:00 pm

Uh...wow.

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Title: Giga Sathanas
Post by: Woomeister on April 01, 2001, 06:34:00 pm

Just wait until I give it more anti-fighter beams!
I also replaced the back beam with a BFRED.

At least this thing won't have shields. It doesn't need them.

Title: Giga Sathanas
Post by: Woomeister on April 02, 2001, 06:52:00 am

Well I'm working on its engines now. Got bored so made a FS1 version.

 (http://members.tripod.co.uk/SocWoo/gigafs1.jpg)

Title: Giga Sathanas
Post by: Woomeister on April 03, 2001, 08:26:00 am

The Model's nearly finnished (what I can do to it anyway)

Tech Specs for beam weapon:
Name = SBFRED
Fire Wait = 35 seconds
Damage = 5100 (BFRED = 2100)
Range = 80000

Takes 2-3 shots to destroy a Sathanas.

Title: Giga Sathanas
Post by: Setekh on April 04, 2001, 02:26:00 am

Wow... excellent job... I didn't think the FS1 engine could handle a ship so big. How many polys does this thing have? Same as the Sathanas?

Title: Giga Sathanas
Post by: Woomeister on April 04, 2001, 03:56:00 am

It just about can. If you get too close you can see right through parts of it.

It has the same number of polys as the Sathanas.

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Title: Giga Sathanas
Post by: Sushi on April 04, 2001, 02:22:00 pm

 

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Originally posted by Woomeister:
If you get too close you can see right through parts of it.

That happened to me with the default capships with my new system. I think it's a D3D driver thing.
Extremely annoying.  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)


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Title: Giga Sathanas
Post by: Grey Wolf on April 04, 2001, 05:34:00 pm

Have you released the FS1 version?

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Title: Giga Sathanas
Post by: Woomeister on April 04, 2001, 05:54:00 pm

 

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Originally posted by Grey Wolf 2009:
Have you released the FS1 version?

Nope. I wasn't going to, but if you want it I'll put it up once the FS2 version is finnished and I convert it again  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif) (It'll be with the FS2-FS1 conversion ships)
It'll come with older weapons though. Shivan Super Lasers. The FS2 version will only be availiable with my campaign.



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Title: Giga Sathanas
Post by: Grey Wolf on April 04, 2001, 06:34:00 pm

Thanks.

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Title: Giga Sathanas
Post by: Woomeister on April 05, 2001, 11:07:00 am

Well it might appear in my new campaign now, which is a sequel to the one I'm doing. It has parts in FS1 and FS2. It'll be a big campaign. Tons of missions for both games  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)

Title: Giga Sathanas
Post by: Unidan on April 11, 2001, 02:38:00 pm

3 WORDS can I have one?

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Title: Giga Sathanas
Post by: Grey Wolf on April 11, 2001, 02:42:00 pm

That's four.  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/ninja.gif) (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/devil.gif) (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/ninja.gif)

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Title: Giga Sathanas
Post by: Sushi on April 11, 2001, 03:19:00 pm

S-M-R-T!  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)

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Title: Giga Sathanas
Post by: Woomeister on April 11, 2001, 05:17:00 pm

 

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Originally posted by Unidan:
3 WORDS can I have one?

Yes when I release my campaign  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/smile.gif)



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