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General FreeSpace => FreeSpace Discussion => Topic started by: Razor on March 21, 2002, 11:25:26 am
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Dark Empire team proudly presents the GTDv Excelsior ™
Only the name is ™
Enjoy :D (http://us.f1.yahoofs.com/users/f9f5e11e/bc/Mine+bilder/executor2.jpg?bcdKo68AuwODZmmv)
EDIT: Sorry about the size of the picture but the crappy link to a bigger one doesn't work :(
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First off: GTDv? What?
Second: Excelsior? Don't you mean Executor?
Third: SW33T MODEL!!!!
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um....:wtf:
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Originally posted by GalacticEmperor
First off: GTDv? What?
Second: Excelsior? Don't you mean Executor?
Third: SW33T MODEL!!!!
Ok Now i will explain.
GTDv means Galactic Terran Devastator
Second: Yes it is the model of the Executor but we thought that it would be much better to give it another name. So I thought that Excelsior would be better. I am aware that it is the model of the Executor. I watched the episode 5 and 6 at least 20 times by now.
Third: Thanks :) and by the way, don't substitute letters and words with numbers or letters. It is not nice and it is not very cool anymore. This is a respected forum.
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its just l337 sp34k, dont worry about it
But nice model... I still think it should be called the SSD Executor, considering that design is already taken by lucasfilms and they called it the Executor...
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...want...need...where...get ship.
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Originally posted by Liberator
...want...need...where...get ship.
Well we have just finished the model but we still need to make it work in Freespace 2. I need to add the turrets and some other stuff to it. Then I have to convert and edit in POF so it will take time but it will sure come to the episode 2.
Yes it is Lucasfilm's model but I thought that SSD doesn't fit in Freespace 2 universe so I thought of a much better name for it. I also made it's new beam cannons, if you guys want, I will post them on the bord. And the name Excelsior sounds much more powerfull to me than the Executor.
However, we may give out a model of a ISD before we present this one since KillMeNow seems not interested in giving people his MODs.
Well anyway, glad you like it. :D
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It seems that there aren't any Star Wars fans here or you guys don't want to post anything. :doubt:
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Originally posted by Razor
It seems that there aren't any Star Wars fans here or you guys don't want to post anything. :doubt:
I like star wars but this model just don't fit in FS. :doh:
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I am a Star Wars Fan(natic). Everything that I model is inspirered from Star Wars (to an extent). My insperation is drawn from Star Wars! It was the FIRST Science Fiction I ever read or heard about (pretty sure). I remember the first time I heard about it, it was a prom that my Aunt was decorating for and I came along 'cuz I was 5 so my aunt was babysitting me. Anyway I saw these space ships drawn on the wall and I WAS HOOKED!
BTW W:jaw:W! GREAT SHIP!
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Originally posted by Ten of Twelve
I like star wars but this model just don't fit in FS. :doh:
Silly boy! :D
Of course it fits! Just wait untill I finish the model and turret it..... ;)
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If I'm thinking on the number of turrets, this baby has...
Ohhh yeah... Ohhh yeahh... oh yeahhh...
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ok i may be wrong about this,but im feel sure that the Empire had more than one SSD the only reason u saw the Executor was that it was the fleet flag ship. (prob worng but hey what do i care)
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Originally posted by Stunaep
If I'm thinking on the number of turrets, this baby has...
Ohhh yeah... Ohhh yeahh... oh yeahhh...
Control yourself peanut!
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FS2 has a limit of..81 turrets on one ship, I think.
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Well, you can make... two ships and have them docked and then make one of them stealth.
That way you can have 162 turrets. :D
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There were five SSDs in the original trilogy, IIRC. You only saw the Executor.
Is that thing going to have shields? ;7
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Originally posted by GalacticEmperor
There were five SSDs in the original trilogy, IIRC. You only saw the Executor.
My God i got something right :D
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Originally posted by GalacticEmperor
Is that thing going to have shields? ;7
No, I think that it won't have shields. Ok I am not following the original Star Wars story but it would be impossible for the GTVA to shield a ship of that magnitude. let's be realistic. I plan to make it about 17 kms long so it will be a bit ''shorter'' than the Gigas,but it will kick it's b***. (sorry Woomeister) don't blow your top ok?
Well it can challange the Garghant but perhaps it can defeat it.
Thie ship will most probably have at least 12000000 hitpoints, that is 12 times stronger than the GTVA Colossus but I was thinking of writing 15000000 hitpoints. That way, it won't need shields. :D
Plus it's 6 or 8 main beams will do at least 60000 dammage, so it can pulvirize the entire fleet within minutes. I didn't plan to put it up for episode 1 of DE campaign because we allready have som goods for it. :D With a little help from you guys, we can speed this thing up. ( I am talking about the campaign)
In the moment I thought that this thread is dead.
I have a holiday now, so I will try to get it turreted. I almost have all the beams so weapons won't be a problem.
Well I gotta go work on this thing now. :D
Bye guys.
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Okay, is this going to be a Super Star Destroyer or just a GTVA supercap that looks suspiciously like one? :doubt:
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Originally posted by Razor
I plan to make it about 17 kms long so it will be a bit ''shorter'' than the Gigas,but it will kick it's ass. (sorry Woomeister) don't blow your top ok?
Kick the Giga's ass? you realise the SBFRed on the Giga engulfs a Colossus.... and with my special outfit "Planet Destroyer" beam... the Gigas can.... well thats a little much information.
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Shields would look so cool on that... :D
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Ok.... Shield it all you want, but remember those hotshot fighter aces out there are experts in "taking the big game down"
In fact the Robotech Research & Development team (Headed by Dr. Lang) has discussed a "Subspace Breaching bomb" In theory this bomb (upon impact) would open a rift to subspace that would drag the capship into it. Once there the ship would be effectively trapped unless it had jump technology that doesn't rely upon nodes. Also once in subspace shields (as far as they know) are unuseable... Send in the veritechs!!!
Seriously that is an AWESOME model no matter what you call it (just don't call it late for dinner!)
I would LOVe to use it in a SW storyline... Federation & Empire..
Capt Sulu "Raise shields!"
SSD Commander "Initiate Tractor Beam!"
Once again that lousy Wormhole is more trouble than it's worth and a strange ship has appear near DS9... Tell the prophets to start a toll, traffic is picking up :D
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Originally posted by vadar_1
Kick the Giga's ass? you realise the SBFRed on the Giga engulfs a Colossus.... and with my special outfit "Planet Destroyer" beam... the Gigas can.... well thats a little much information.
*Sarcastic* Really?
You think that this devastator will be equiped with BFGreens and LRBGREENs?
Silly one! :D Of course it won't. I designed brand new beams for this thing and it will really kick Gigases butt. This thing is a killer of the Shivans. It will be able to kill any Shivan destroyer or super-destroyer, Juggernaut and migh be even able to kill the Garghant. You will understand why. ;)
And Setekh, I agree that the shield would look cool on this baby but how do you expect me to explain how did GTVA mannage to shield this Devastator.
And one more thing. Don't get confused. This is NOT a destroyer or a Super J, this is Galactic Terran Devastator (GTDv)
Now, since my official school holiday begun today :D I am gonna concentrate all of my attention to making this ship usefull in Freespace 2. When I am done, I will post some screenies. 10 whole days. YEEHAAAA! :D :D :D :D
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Originally posted by vadar_1
Kick the Giga's ass? you realise the SBFRed on the Giga engulfs a Colossus.... and with my special outfit "Planet Destroyer" beam... the Gigas can.... well thats a little much information.
:rolleyes:
I think we can guess form the name...........
Oh, and it's a nice model, but please give it a better class name. Devastator isn't exactly great, IMHO.
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Originally posted by aldo_14
:rolleyes:
I think we can guess form the name...........
Oh, and it's a nice model, but please give it a better class name. Devastator isn't exactly great, IMHO.
How about GTSD Excelsior? :D
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SD sounds much better to me. :)
I try to refrain from using too many new classes of ships in my mods; more than one addition just makes it sound kind of silly IMHO. ;)
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Actually, the Excelsior will be armed with the next-gen Lances. Shields are a pain, but they can be done I think.
And the Gigas wouldn't stand a chance against a broadside anyway! :p
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Don't try to shield it, I tried with the Gigas and the entire model became unstable, plus to make a shield with small enough sections it would have to be thousands of polys. This ship is unbalanced for its size (if it's similar to the Gigas)
The Gigas can be destroyed, it has one major weakness that I put in on purpose. The Apoc has weaknesses and the Sechat would of have :D
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Originally posted by Star Dragon
Sulu - "My God! Shields!!!
:lol: :lol:
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Ok thanks for the tip Woomeister. i didn't plan to add shields to it anyway, I was just joking and yes it could take on the Gigas and on who knows how many SJ. It can challange the Garghant but if you go too over board with hitpoints and weapons... :rolleyes:
Anyway, we are working hard on this one, but I still need to turet this thing and it's a pain. :(
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One way to do it faster is to not really care if every thing is exact.
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Are you talking about turreting?
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Duh, thats what you were talking about.
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Originally posted by Killfrenzy
Actually, the Excelsior will be armed with the next-gen Lances.
Well OK but I am making the main guns. No wait, I made them allready! :p
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I was also thinking of putting a very detailed star destroyer but maybe it would be just too much to have two Star Wars ships in the campaign. Do you think that this ship will fit well into the Freespace universe?
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Originally posted by Razor
I was also thinking of putting a very detailed star destroyer but maybe it would be just too much to have two Star Wars ships in the campaign. Do you think that this ship will fit well into the Freespace universe?
Unless its a Starwars Campaign? No, it will not fit well.
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That's your opinion but I believe it will fit well. :nod: It would be a new design for Freespace ships, a radical departure from the old design.
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Originally posted by Star Dragon
Capt Sulu "Raise shields!"
SSD Commander "Initiate Tractor Beam!"
OK if you have a good idea, tell me how to make a tractor beam.
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ppl find it hard to adjust to radical changes and jst dont accept them
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Originally posted by Razor
OK if you have a good idea, tell me how to make a tractor beam.
Just a thought- make a tagging beam? Then use the is-tagged-delay to destroy the engine subsystem.
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Originally posted by GalacticEmperor
Just a thought- make a tagging beam? Then use the is-tagged-delay to destroy the engine subsystem.
Good Idea! :nod:
But how doI make the tagged ship go to the Excelsior after it is, ahem.. taged?
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Wow thas a tiight model, but a few reminders, just because im a star wars freak (please don't flame me too much)
The Executor Class SSDs in Star Wars were 8 KM long
And um, as of ROTJ, im pretty sure there were only 4 SSDs (Executor, Lusankya, Terror, Iron Fist)
and, imho, Galactic Terran Devastator just doesn't sound as good as Galactic Terran Super Destroyer
Of course though if any of my info is wrong, let me know
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Originally posted by Razor
OK if you have a good idea, tell me how to make a tractor beam.
take beam and give it negative mass
hehehe...phear me and my knowledge...
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Actuall it is 12800 meters long.
You can find specs for the Executor here (http://www.starwars.com/databank/starship/superstardestroyer/index.html)
:)
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By the way,
:bump:
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Nice model. :nod::yes: But I guess it will not fit FS campaign.
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Originally posted by Redfang
Nice model. :nod::yes: But I guess it will not fit FS campaign.
And just why not? :rolleyes:
It has a good shape, it has a better design than any other ship, it will have kick ass weaponry (made by me ;7 ) So I don't see the problem fitting it into the campaign.
Give 20 good reasons not to put it in the campaign.
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Some SSD names found in various starwars books...
Iron Fist
Rasors Kiss
Lusankaya
and then the eclipse class, twice as long as the SSD. Then there were the 25000 + ISDs, then there were Victory SS, then ISD Mach 2...
The Executor colided with the deathstar, but why didn't the auxilary bridge stop the plumit? And if they couldn't stop it, it would look cool if when Wedge and Lando are detonating the core of the DS, if it would plumit in and colide with the core thingy...;7
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Oups almost forgot the good ol
:D :bump: :D
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Originally posted by Hippo
Some SSD names found in various starwars books...
Iron Fist
Rasors Kiss
Lusankaya
and then the eclipse class, twice as long as the SSD. Then there were the 25000 + ISDs, then there were Victory SS, then ISD Mach 2...
The Executor colided with the deathstar, but why didn't the auxilary bridge stop the plumit? And if they couldn't stop it, it would look cool if when Wedge and Lando are detonating the core of the DS, if it would plumit in and colide with the core thingy...;7
Iron Fist = Grand Admiral Thrawn's flagship
Lusankaya = Ysanne Isard's command ship in #4 of the Rogue Squadron series (later mostly destroyed but repaired by the New Republic)
Razor's Kiss I've heard of somewhere but I forget where...
Anyway, the Executor was pulled down by the DS's gravity and its engines could not reverse the dive, even from the auxiliary bridge. (I think) Otherwise, it's just that events happened too quickly and it couldn't pull out of the dive in time once the backup bridge was activated.
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Well actually, the Executor dived for about 10 seconds untill it colided with the DS.
Hm that happened too fast didn't it? I bet someone told them: Dive dive dive hit your burners.. eeh who was in charge for navigation on the Executor?
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Originally posted by Razor
And just why not? :rolleyes:
Because it's a Star Wars ship, not a FS ship. But do what you want.
Originally posted by Razor
It has a good shape
:nod:
Originally posted by Razor
it has a better design than any other ship
I guess it might be because it's made by you. :rolleyes:
Originally posted by Razor
it will have kick ass weaponry (made by me ;7 )
So? Does that make it to fit better?
Originally posted by Razor
So I don't see the problem fitting it into the campaign.
Yeah, it will be possible, but... well, we'll see. ;)
Originally posted by Razor
Give 20 good reasons not to put it in the campaign.
Um, why that many? Also, don't say that you can't tell 20 good reasons because you don't know so many. :sigh: I know, I don't know so many.
But good luck! :)
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It is a Star Wars ship. So what? :p
It still looks cool and I like it and my staff and I have agreed to put it in the campaign. When I first posted something on VBB, it was about this ship. I suggested that someone should make the Executor and since no-one did it, we decided to take that matter into our own hands and we made this ship and now you guys tell me ( for who knows what reason ) that '' it won't fit '' because it is a Star Wars ship.
And one more thing. When KillMeNow posted pics of his first Star Destroyers and the DS, nobody said that the ship wouldn't fit into Freespace and noone threw in the cruded :rolleyes:
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Actuall it is 12800 meters long.
Well i know ive heard it 12800, 8000 and 11 miles (you do the conversions) I've even heard it longer than the eclipse, which imho, is jus dumb. I say 8000 because that is the one i hear the most frequenlty. My star wars encyclopedia and the essential guide to ships, along with STWCCG :) give 8000 meters. This might be true for X Wing Alliance, but i can't remember
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I saw on the official web-site that the Executor was 12800 meters long but we plan to make it perhaps about 15 km long.
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Originally posted by Razor
....Do you think that this ship will fit well into the Freespace universe?
And then later...
Originally posted by Razor
....That's your opinion but I believe it will fit well.
Okay, Razor - why did you bother asking our opinions, and then reminding us that they're our opinions, and then completely discounting them when they disagree with yours?
For what it's worth, I agree that the SSD (and an SSD by any other name is still a huge triangle in space) will not fit in the FS universe. Why? Well, what would we think about going to see Star Trek: Nemisis and finding a replica of the GTVA Colossus in there? Or if we saw the Wing Commander movie and the Enterprise-D flew by outside (even if nobody liked the movie)? The universes just aren't interchangable. Sure, you can do it - but just because something can be done, does that mean it should (or that it'll be cool)?
If you want to make a complete SW mod for FS, fine - go for it, I'm all for it, and will download it when it's done. But putting a SW ship into the FS universe is just lame. Of course, before you remind me, I'd like to point out that all this is, of course, my opinion. Please don't take this as a flame...I'm just trying to voice my opinion as a Sci-Fi fan in general (and a SW, FS, and ST fan in particular) that what you have here seems kinda lame. SW was a long time ago in a galaxy far, far away (or as I prefer to think of it: a galaxy a shadow's width awway), and their technology won't suddenly appear in "our" universe (since, after all, FS is supposed to be this universe, this galaxy, a few centuries in the future)
--TurboNed
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Originally posted by TurboNed
For what it's worth, I agree that the SSD (and an SSD by any other name is still a huge triangle in space) will not fit in the FS universe.
I feel exactly the same way. It just does not fit in with the current FS ship architecture. Nothing that the Terrans, Vasudans or Shivans have looks anything like it. You could try creating a new race which was made up completely of Star Wars ships, but that would still seem odd because we know where the Star Wars ships originally came from (well, that and the SW ships do not have quite the dark atmosphere that Freespace has; SW ships tend to be brighter, IMO).
That said, it's a great looking model.:)
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Originally posted by NotDefault
That said, it's a great looking model.:)
Heartily agreed.
--TurboNed