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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: colecampbell666 on April 12, 2009, 08:52:42 pm
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I had to use IE earlier, and this happened when I opened it up:
(http://i43.tinypic.com/whe6hx.png)
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I lol'd :lol:
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Now you know better.
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FAIL!
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I laughed at that.
Microsoft's products are so adorable.
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Firefox. FIREFOX.
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Firefox. FIREFOX.
Firefox is so last year. It's Chrome 2.0 today. ;) (in beta at the moment)
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Is this because IE7 is complying to the Web-Standard, or because MS websites are?
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Hah, that is indeed funny :lol:
Wonder how that happened... never did such thing with me.
And on the other hand, IE8 runs like a charm.
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Firefox. FIREFOX.
Firefox is so last year. It's Chrome 2.0 today. ;) (in beta at the moment)
If GMail is anything to go by, it'll always be in beta.
On a related note, are there any stats on which browsers visit HLP?
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@colecampbell666: I'm using IE8 now. I removed the addon garbage that came with it though like the toolbar and stuff. It is working faster now. IE8 is now out. Of course I'm using Win XP and your taskbar looks like Vista. Maybe Vista isn't compatible with IE7 much?
Using XP with the Zune theme, and I use FF3 normally. The Government Canada site doesn't like FF3 or IE8 on my Windows 7 netbook, so I had to use my old PC.
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If GMail is anything to go by, it'll always be in beta.
On a related note, are there any stats on which browsers visit HLP?
Chrome 1.0 final was released last December and 2.0 reached beta month ago. 2.0 beta is currently my default browser.
See attachment for browser stats.
[attachment deleted by evil Tolwyn]
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Firefox and Safari currently work fairly well, although the former crashes occasionally when attempting to view too many tabs set to HLP.
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Cheers for that!
Interesting, but not entirely unexpected, that the number of visits per day is fairly constant
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Several reasons why Chrome is awesome (http://www.chromeexperiments.com). Most of these work in FF3 as well, but (Surprise!) don't in IE8.
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Firefox. FIREFOX.
Firefox is so last year. It's Chrome 2.0 today. ;) (in beta at the moment)
Hur Dur Google owns anything you put to the internads with Chrome, dude
it's a conspiracy
...seriously though, I just kinda like Firefox. And I think Google is bloating itself a bit too much for their own good (and mine).
They only need to put an operating system onto the market and they're all set. Then they'll introduce a bunch of features only available to GoogleOS users... or something like that. Then again, maybe not. I might just be suspicious of big corporations growing even bigger...
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Yeah, I agree with Herra. I just like FF3, it's familiar, and it has addons and a clean interface.
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Firefox and Safari currently work fairly well, although the former crashes occasionally when attempting to view too many tabs set to HLP.
Firefox typically crashes for me once I have more than eight windows and/or 100 tabs. :\
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Opera!
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Firefox and Safari currently work fairly well, although the former crashes occasionally when attempting to view too many tabs set to HLP.
Firefox typically crashes for me once I have more than eight windows and/or 100 tabs. :\
Why do you need eight windows and 100 tabs? :shaking: :confused:
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Considering that this is iamzack we are talking about, I'm not sure I want to know...
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Opera!
Here here!
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See attachment for browser stats.
neat
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Considering that this is iamzack we are talking about, I'm not sure I want to know...
Is she that scary?
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Considering that this is iamzack we are talking about, I'm not sure I want to know...
Is she that scary?
I think it would be cool to be inside zack's head for ten minutes. I probably wouldn't get anything done, but it would be really, really enlightening.
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I enjoy watching so many people complain about Internet Explorer while I sit here, having used it since the first day I began using the web, and have not suffered a SINGLE problem with IE.
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I think it would be cool to be inside zack's head for ten minutes. I probably wouldn't get anything done, but it would be really, really enlightening.
Just as long as you pick a time she's not, um, having sex or something. Unless you'd like to experience it in a girl's body? :lol:
I know that's a dirty remark, but really, you should be careful about what you wish for. :p
I enjoy watching so many people complain about Internet Explorer while I sit here, having used it since the first day I began using the web, and have not suffered a SINGLE problem with IE.
I wonder if people would joke about it as much if it wasn't a Microsoft product?
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Unless you'd like to experience it in a girl's body? :lol:
Nothing wrong with wondering what it's like. :P
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Unless you'd like to experience it in a girl's body? :lol:
Nothing wrong with wondering what it's like. :P
Yeah, actually, that'd be pretty interesting.
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There were some pretty amaznig gender-bending sequences in Charles Stross "Accelerando" and "Glasshouse", but reading about it can't substitute for real experience.
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I enjoy watching so many people complain about Internet Explorer while I sit here, having used it since the first day I began using the web, and have not suffered a SINGLE problem with IE.
I wonder if people would joke about it as much if it wasn't a Microsoft product?
Yes. Have you ever tried web development? That's where a lot of the vitriol comes from. IE refuses to adhere to accepted standards, instead trying to carve their own way of doing things, and expecting everyone else to follow, because they're Microsoft. Well they can't get away with that these days, Firefox and Safari and Chrome and Opera have too much market share now.
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I wonder if people would joke about it [IE] as much if it wasn't a Microsoft product?
They (http://www.real.com/) most (http://www.apple.com/quicktime/) likely (http://www.symantec.com/norton/index.jsp) would (http://www.caligari.com/).
Even if the frequency of the jokes about other crap products is lower than that of the frequency about prominent crap like Internet Exploder, it's amplitude often matches or oftentimes surpasses the complaints about Microsoft's antics.
Yes. Have you ever tried web development? That's where a lot of the vitriol comes from. IE refuses to adhere to accepted standards, instead trying to carve their own way of doing things, and expecting everyone else to follow, because they're Microsoft. Well they can't get away with that these days, Firefox and Safari and Chrome and Opera have too much market share now.
That, and web designers are tired of breaking the standards to make pages work on a broken browser. Since alternatives are more available, they can start to flip the bird at Microsoft's non-standard-compliant software.
Which is a blessing, really.
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Have you ever tried web development?
I did some HTML in year 10, I think I remember in the tutorials we read that some of the tags would only work in IE, or wouldn't work.
They (http://www.real.com/) most (http://www.apple.com/quicktime/) likely (http://www.symantec.com/norton/index.jsp) would (http://www.caligari.com/).
Can I assume that these pages have trouble displaying on IE? Because I can't check now since IE isn't loading anything (ironic, although I think I need to restart my computer since that's not the only think that isn't working properly).
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I enjoy watching so many people complain about Internet Explorer while I sit here, having used it since the first day I began using the web, and have not suffered a SINGLE problem with IE.
That's because you haven't used other browsers and realized what you're missing.
Never looked back after I switched to Firefox.
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I used Firefox, all I see is a different UI, and Favorites are called Bookmarks.
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I used Firefox, all I see is a different UI, and Favorites are called Bookmarks.
I concur. Having FF on my laptop, I use it quite often.
I honestly see no difference in performance.
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Security-wise, Firefox is superior, and it had (still has?) a significant performance edge.
Most significant is the fact that Firefox tends to be the leader in terms of features, and IE plays catch-up. IE didn't have tabbed browsing until well after other browsers.
Lastly, Firefox gets new releases faster and has a leaner codebase.
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ssmit, those sites have nothing to do with IE or Microsoft. They're just examples of software that people make fun of, that _isn't_ a Microsoft product. Turdspace, Norton Slowware, Real (Crappy) Player, and, ugh, Quicktime. Ok I made up a nickname or two, but they apply. And they do get made fun of. A lot. (Not alot).
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ssmit, those sites have nothing to do with IE or Microsoft. They're just examples of software that people make fun of, that _isn't_ a Microsoft product. Turdspace, Norton Slowware, Real (Crappy) Player, and, ugh, Quicktime. Ok I made up a nickname or two, but they apply. And they do get made fun of. A lot. (Not alot).
Once again, an assumption of mine turns out to be wrong. Actually, when I come to think of it, I should have realised that first. Argh. :ick: Well, at least for Truespace and Norton. Although I do know that they have nothing to do with IE or Microsoft.
Argh. :nervous:
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Bill Gates hasn't really run much at MS in ages. Ballmer has been at the helm for quite a few years, and now he's really steering the boat. Gates just sat in his office and sent out memos when Windows was giving _him_ a hard time. Wish I could dig up the references for that...
Aha, found it (http://gizmodo.com/5019516/classic-clips-bill-gates-chews-out-microsoft-over-xp)
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Opera!
Here here!
Damn beat me to it LOL
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one thing i like about firefox is how easy it is to back up user settings.
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Even better:
(http://i42.tinypic.com/2u5gsbd.png)
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Even better:
(http://i42.tinypic.com/2u5gsbd.png)
:D :lol: :yes:
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I ran across that at work and my coworker has been making sure _everyone_ sees it now. He thinks it's the funniest thing since Richard Pryor.
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Trust Mozilla to breathe up Microsoft's hide when it comes to a web browser. :lol:
Let's see if Google can do the same.
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^^
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Nope, it's universal.
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I ran across that at work and my coworker has been making sure _everyone_ sees it now. He thinks it's the funniest thing since Richard Pryor.
Pryor was overrated.
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Actually now I decided to use Firefox. I will get used to it. I got tired of IE8 having two iexplore.exe running at the same time. I'm hoping to get more speed when using Firefox. I just noticed that when using it on this site when typing posts, it has spell checker. Like a built in MS Word. Maybe the same holds true for other websites or maybe they have to be Firefox compatible to do that.
If you're going to switch to Firefox, you may want to use these add-ons with it:
BBCodeXtra, which adds extended formatting options when you right-click on a typing field;
AdBlock+, which can block (almost) anything you want on any web page;
ChatZilla, a functional chat client that works inside Firefox; and
Download Statusbar, which generates a little bar above the status bar whenever you start a download.
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Or NoScript...?
Sort-of thankful I didn't upgrade to IE8 after reading a bit about it. The only reason I use IE now is to surf websites that simply don't render correctly in FF or Opera.
If FF has any drawbacks, it's when you bomb a whole jack load of add-ons on it, and then the loading time will seriously lag...
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Or if you use a Mac and open ten tabs to HLP, which may cause a crash.
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...some addons are not good and should be removed or disabled.
Like Windows Live. :drevil:
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Essential Firefox Plugins:
-Adlblock Plus
-No Script
-Stealther
-Tab Mix Plus
-All-in-One Sidebar
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There's quite a few guys around here that would kick your ass for using an ad blocker. You realize HLP is funded by ads right? I don't think the ad blockers are selective about letting the good ads through and just blocking the bad ones, but I might be one. I prefer something more like FlashBlock, since flash ads are about the only ones that are really that annoying these days. Helps cut down on a lot of annoying autoload B.S. Firefox 3.5 will have a Privacy mode similar to other browsers, so you probably won't need Stealther anymore. I use WebDev Toolbar on the rare occasion I might need to turn off Javascript, but I'm a web developer. Chatzilla? Meh. Get a real client. It's probably ok if you don't use IRC much, and you don't have builtin IRC with a multi-protocal IM app like Pidgin. My must haves are Firebug, Web Developer Toolbar, IE View Lite, and CoolIris (not as much as the first three). Again though, Firebug is only really useful if you like digging into the guts of a page once in a while. Tamper Data can be fun for form hacking too.
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ABP requires you to provide input if you want to. That's what I do, which is why I've yet to block any ads on HLP. :)
What's Stealther?
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There's quite a few guys around here that would kick your ass for using an ad blocker. You realize HLP is funded by ads right? I don't think the ad blockers are selective about letting the good ads through and just blocking the bad ones, but I might be one.
Basically popups and the flash monsters that jump around the screen flashing and yelling are the reason why I use ABP. I mean, if a site resorts to ads that are nothing but annoying, I find it appropriate to punish them by blocking their ads. But, if a site does things tacktfully like HLP by having the ads on fixed locations and basically as mere background elements, I'm cool with them.
As a side note, I also use ABP for script control.
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I will try most of those. I do notice a speed increase when loading pages in Firefox and also it seems that I can download files faster, or maybe that was just the website I downloaded a file from being very fast since I know it depends on their end too. However, that was the first time I have ever seen my download transfer rate go all the way up to 396KB/sec. It usually goes no higher than around 320KB/sec. Does Firefox have any real drawbacks? It doesn't seem to really.
Edit: It was easy to find addons just by using the Firefox search add-on dialog box. I installed all except the chat one.
Use also AutoPager for auto-loading web-page page breaks, and
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Stealther disables cookies and history for pages while active. Useful for browsing sites that drop cookies all over your system without having to configure rules or constantly go clean them up. I use it when browsing pretty much anything other than my trusted sites. But it's easy to turn off in case some web developer broke the rules and made basic browsing of their page require cookies.
I also have FireBug, IE Tab, and FireFTP installed, but I don't consider those essential for your average user.
As for AdBlock... given that Flash has been compromised for malware insertion multiple times, and that most sites do not play fair with ads, it is becoming a necessary tool. It's unfortunate that sites like HLP get caught in the crossfire, but HLP is in a tiny, tiny minority of communities on the web that use relatively unobtrusive ads. I also spend less than 2 hours a week here, versus time spent browsing other pages rife with ads. If I remember, I shut it off if I'm on HLP for a prolonged period of time, but that's rare.
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You can disable it permanently on a page, click on the arrow.
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And that's exactly why I mentioned FlashBlock, it blocks the flash ads without worrying about the stuff that probably isn't going to get in your way. It's not a hassle on youtube or anything either, you just click on the flash stuff you do want to see and it loads it.
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You can disable it permanently on a page, click on the arrow.
Which I just did for HLP. :)
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