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Title: Graphics Cards Discussion
Post by: High Max on April 08, 2009, 12:51:34 am: .
Title: Graphics Cards Discussion
Post by: GTSVA on April 08, 2009, 06:17:01 am: What's the best video card out there? EVER?
Title: Graphics Cards Discussion
Post by: Jeff Vader on April 08, 2009, 08:32:17 am: Quote from: GTSVA on April 08, 2009, 06:17:01 am
What's the best video card out there? EVER?
Radeon.
Title: Graphics Cards Discussion
Post by: Herra Tohtori on April 08, 2009, 08:37:26 am: Blasphemy!

Voodoo2 might be hard to beat.

Also, NVidia GeForce 295GTX is probably the highest performance card out at the moment.
Title: Graphics Cards Discussion
Post by: Zacam on April 08, 2009, 10:07:22 am: I would actually recommend the nVidia 275 over the 295. And the newest ATi is pretty damn sweet. And they are both comparable to each other in just about every way and are both in at the same price point of $250 or less.
Title: Graphics Cards Discussion
Post by: colecampbell666 on April 08, 2009, 03:51:59 pm: Yeah, but speaking of raw performance (and forgetting about CF and SLi framerate issues) the 295 is the most powerful.
Title: Graphics Cards Discussion
Post by: High Max on April 08, 2009, 05:23:56 pm: .
Title: Graphics Cards Discussion
Post by: colecampbell666 on April 09, 2009, 09:06:05 pm: I agree, the 3870 is still a damn good card, and the high-end cards are ridiculously priced.
Title: Graphics Cards Discussion
Post by: Nemesis6 on April 10, 2009, 04:58:16 am: 194 dollars for a GTS250, a 4850 or 4870 if you fork in a little extra... Graphic cards have gotten insanely cheap. Prices been plummeting for the last few years, no idea which rock you've been under! :wtf:
Title: Graphics Cards Discussion
Post by: colecampbell666 on April 10, 2009, 04:27:15 pm: Those are mid-high. I'm talking about 295s for 700$, and 4870X2s for 550$ (Cdn)
Title: Graphics Cards Discussion
Post by: chief1983 on April 11, 2009, 09:41:26 pm: A 295 can be had for just over $500, not $700. Around $500 has been the supreme card price for a while, at least for a vanilla version. Sure you can pay more for a super optimized overclocked liquid cooled make your eggs version, but you don't have to.
Title: Graphics Cards Discussion
Post by: GTSVA on April 11, 2009, 10:48:25 pm: What have I begun?
Title: Graphics Cards Discussion
Post by: colecampbell666 on April 12, 2009, 09:54:21 am: Quote from: colecampbell666 on April 10, 2009, 04:27:15 pm
(Cdn)
600$ is the minimum I've found.
Title: Graphics Cards Discussion
Post by: chief1983 on April 12, 2009, 10:57:00 pm: Oh my bad. Wait though, I thought Canadian currency was stronger than the US dollar right now. Or is it just cause no one sells/ships that stuff in Canada?
Title: Graphics Cards Discussion
Post by: colecampbell666 on April 13, 2009, 09:12:36 am: Dude, that changed about 8 months ago. We're at about .75-.80$ US.
Title: Graphics Cards Discussion
Post by: Rhymes on April 13, 2009, 02:54:59 pm: I have an exchange rate calculator running on my machine right now, and according to it, 1 Canadian dollar is worth approximately 82 cents. :nod:
Title: Graphics Cards Discussion
Post by: colecampbell666 on April 13, 2009, 03:03:16 pm: There you go.
Title: Graphics Cards Discussion
Post by: Rhymes on April 13, 2009, 03:07:18 pm: Magic of the Windows sidebar. :D
Title: Graphics Cards Discussion
Post by: colecampbell666 on April 13, 2009, 04:21:02 pm: Doesn't work on my W7 PC, for some reason.
Title: Graphics Cards Discussion
Post by: Rhymes on April 13, 2009, 04:34:56 pm: Huh, go figure.
Title: Graphics Cards Discussion
Post by: High Max on April 15, 2009, 07:06:45 pm: .
Title: Graphics Cards Discussion
Post by: colecampbell666 on April 15, 2009, 07:09:24 pm: Naw dude, the displayed memory speed is different from the actual. IIRC, you multiply the speed by the series of RAM (i.e. for DDR2, you multiply it by 2, for GDDR3 you go by 3, GDDR5 by 5, etc.)

Here's a hint, uninstall Catalyst, it's a bad control center, it hogs resources, and I haven't found a use for it. Next time you update, download display driver only.
Title: Graphics Cards Discussion
Post by: High Max on April 15, 2009, 07:15:23 pm: .
Title: Graphics Cards Discussion
Post by: colecampbell666 on April 15, 2009, 07:19:17 pm: GPU-Z for specs, and ATiTool and ATiTrayTools for settings/overclocking. Much better IMO.
Title: Graphics Cards Discussion
Post by: blowfish on April 15, 2009, 08:03:56 pm: Can this please be split? :doubt:
Title: Graphics Cards Discussion
Post by: chief1983 on April 15, 2009, 08:32:53 pm: Actually I don't think you multiply the speeds based on the generation of DDR. DDR was still just multiply by 2, same as DDR2. They're just incompatible with other DDR generations is all, it's still Double Data Rate, regardless of DDR1, 2 or 3. Now _dual channel_ DDR2 vs _triple channel_ DDR3 is another story. But I don't think graphics cards make use of that tech.
Title: Graphics Cards Discussion
Post by: colecampbell666 on April 15, 2009, 08:46:52 pm: Quote from: chief1983 on April 15, 2009, 08:32:53 pm
Actually I don't think you multiply the speeds based on the generation of DDR. DDR was still just multiply by 2, same as DDR2. They're just incompatible with other DDR generations is all, it's still Double Data Rate, regardless of DDR1, 2 or 3. Now _dual channel_ DDR2 vs _triple channel_ DDR3 is another story. But I don't think graphics cards make use of that tech.
I was reading about some GDDR5 (the 4890, perhaps?) and the clock was 8 or 900 hundred something (3000 effective) I don't know how they factor it. I didn't really do any math when I wrote that, I just estimated.
Title: Graphics Cards Discussion
Post by: High Max on April 16, 2009, 09:32:39 pm: .
Title: Graphics Cards Discussion
Post by: blowfish on April 16, 2009, 09:33:50 pm: Quote from: blowfish on April 15, 2009, 08:03:56 pm
Can this please be split? :doubt:

Thread derailment FTL :(
Title: Graphics Cards Discussion
Post by: Vasudan Admiral on April 16, 2009, 09:43:59 pm: Oh right, that's my job!

So...how to split....
Title: Re: Graphics Cards Discussion
Post by: High Max on April 16, 2009, 09:53:33 pm: .
Title: Re: Graphics Cards Discussion
Post by: Bob-san on April 16, 2009, 11:01:14 pm: What the hell are you all talking about?

HD3870... one ****ing ninety dollars? http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161251
The HD4670s are slightly slower than the old 3870--and much cheaper than what you paid. Hell... HD4830 is $108 CAD. http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161260
You got ripped off if you paid that price...
Title: Re: Graphics Cards Discussion
Post by: High Max on April 16, 2009, 11:38:38 pm: .
Title: Re: Graphics Cards Discussion
Post by: blackhole on April 16, 2009, 11:48:21 pm: And yet, why anyone would NEED all those useless features is beyond me.
Title: Re: Graphics Cards Discussion
Post by: High Max on April 16, 2009, 11:56:24 pm: .
Title: Re: Graphics Cards Discussion
Post by: Bob-san on April 17, 2009, 12:44:09 am: They're both 1GB cards--GDDR3 v. GDDR4 doesn't do much. Similarly, 512MB v. 1GB doesn't do much except at or above 1920x1200. And you can overclock that HD4670 if you really wanted to--lower power draw, easy overclocking, &c. And there's the HD4830 512MB for still a fraction of the price, which is a good bit faster than the HD3870.
Title: Re: Graphics Cards Discussion
Post by: Fury on April 17, 2009, 01:34:46 am: While High Max may not be the most knowledgeable person on HLP about video cards, he seems to be happy enough with his purchase. There is no need to rub "bad buy, shame on you" on his face. Let it go, really.