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Off-Topic Discussion => Arts & Talents => Topic started by: brandx0 on April 21, 2009, 08:34:29 pm
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Well, I've been doing so much work on game models the last few years that I decided to make for myself a render only model, get back to my roots as a render artist for a change of pace, no more polycounts to worry about or number of bitmaps or resolution or any of that. When I discovered an old printout of my very first 3D studio model, I decided to give myself something to compare it to, hence I'm in the process of creating a high poly, render only model of the VF-1 Valkyrie from Macross.
So without further ado, here's the first WIP shot:
(http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/8712/vf1001.jpg)
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Great Start!
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Kinda hard to see so far but :yes:
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Heh, I was just playing the Macross Saga on my GBA the other day.
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And an update here:
(http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/2765/vf1003.jpg)
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I can't remember, who pilots that one? Hunter, right?
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I can't remember, who pilots that one? Hunter, right?
Oh, man, don't Robotech me. :lol:
The VF-1's your bog-standard fighter. Everyone flew a variant in the show. Except for those who flew battlepods anyway.
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I can see it better now, and it looks better! :yes:
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that looks really good! you are really a gifted one...
and how does the comparison goes so far?
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I can't remember, who pilots that one? Hunter, right?
Oh, man, don't Robotech me. :lol:
The VF-1's your bog-standard fighter. Everyone flew a variant in the show. Except for those who flew battlepods anyway.
I never watched the show (P.S. There's a show?). I just played the GBA game, which might as well just said go there, shoot stuff.
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I never watched the show (P.S. There's a show?).
*weeps*
Note that I have never seen either the original or its American variant, but still...*weeps*
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I can't remember, who pilots that one? Hunter, right?
Oh, man, don't Robotech me. :lol:
The VF-1's your bog-standard fighter. Everyone flew a variant in the show. Except for those who flew battlepods anyway.
I never watched the show (P.S. There's a show?). I just played the GBA game, which might as well just said go there, shoot stuff.
Yes, there's a show called Macross. I've never actually watched the original, just its excellent spinoffs, but it's generally considered a classic. Very fun, none of this BSG grimdark.
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I thought the Macross was a ship :wtf:
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It's also the name of the show. The show is named after the ship.
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And, even though it's not nearly ready for it, I just had to stick some colours on it, mostly for materials testing purposes, but also for fun!
(http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/6326/vf1004.jpg)
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The proportions look off to me, in comparison to the (beautifully detailed) semi-plan drawings of the VF-1 from the Robotech RPG book.
Yes, there's a show called Macross. I've never actually watched the original, just its excellent spinoffs, but it's generally considered a classic. Very fun, none of this BSG grimdark.
Man, what show were you watching? The original Macross/Robotech had Earth get beamspammed by the Grand Fleet, 17 million Zentradi warships doing orbital bombardment. 50% of the water on the planet never to return, human population all but wiped out.
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The proportions look off to me, in comparison to the (beautifully detailed) semi-plan drawings of the VF-1 from the Robotech RPG book.
You mean these ones?
(http://www.new-un-spacy.com/sdfmacross/vf-1a-valkyrie/vf-1a-schematics.gif)
vs.
(http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/7858/orthotop.jpg)(http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/466/orthoside.jpg)(http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/6951/orthofront.jpg)
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Yes. Your nose is a bit too long and there's something weird about the legs/thrusters. (I'm also thinking of the nearly full-page drawing of a VF in flight.)
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Well, according to every schematic I've seen, which surprisingly almost all match up, I'm right on my proportions.
Also note that the image you're referring to, while I haven't seen it, is already a perspective shot it sounds like. Determining proportions from a perspective shot of a drawing is pretty much impossible. Orthographic views are the only real way to go about these things.
Perhaps you could post the image in question?
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The proportions look off to me, in comparison to the (beautifully detailed) semi-plan drawings of the VF-1 from the Robotech RPG book.
Ok maybe you don't frequent FotG much but we have rules (http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/topic,44769.msg913227.html#msg913227) about those types of comments there. See the 'Model X...' comment.
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Ok maybe you don't frequent FotG much but we have rules (http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/topic,44769.msg913227.html#msg913227) about those types of comments there. See the 'Model X...' comment.
To be blunt: We aren't in your project forum. We're in Off-Topic Discussion, Fan Fiction and Art. The rules here are the rules of HLP in general. They are not yours to define, alter, or enforce.
Now step back from the conversation.
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Meh, I have no problem with anyone critiquing my proportions on my models. Feel free to do so, but it'd be nice once in a while for someone to provide some proof rather than the usual "It's wrong, I saw it this one time in some book a few years ago and I'm pretty sure I remember it being different"
Now, play nicely.
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Yes, there's a show called Macross. I've never actually watched the original, just its excellent spinoffs, but it's generally considered a classic. Very fun, none of this BSG grimdark.
Man, what show were you watching? The original Macross/Robotech had Earth get beamspammed by the Grand Fleet, 17 million Zentradi warships doing orbital bombardment. 50% of the water on the planet never to return, human population all but wiped out.
There's a difference between BSG grimdark and darkness in general. Macross has always been a hopeful series with hope in humanity.
Do you remember the ending, where they allied with the Zentraedi using the power of song, reconstructed Earth, built a bunch of Macross colony ships and became a galactic power within less than half a century?
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It's more a Brand-X rule than a FotG rule. He gets those comments. A lot. And they're usually wrong.
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Also let's remember that this is from an anime from the 80s, where proportions depended less on actual design and more on what the animator was feeling like that day, not to mention that it's a transformer whose parts from any mode barely fit into any other without some massive size distortion.
Anyways, I've chosen to go off of those plans I posted, being as they're the most internally consistent blueprints I could find, and seem to be drawn with proper orthographic projection for the most part. (Which is a welcome change after the images I've had to use for FotG lately...)
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Also, another update:
(http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/9828/vf1005.jpg)
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There's a difference between BSG grimdark and darkness in general. Macross has always been a hopeful series with hope in humanity.
Do you remember the ending, where they allied with the Zentraedi using the power of song, reconstructed Earth, built a bunch of Macross colony ships and became a galactic power within less than half a century?
I recall almost all of the cast ending up dead, often in very non-heroic ways.
Roy gets killed by friendly fire whole fending off a fake assault...all that after 3 years of intense combat in space. That other pilots dies surprisinlgy fast too.
Almost the whole Mascorss crew killed (Captain gloval, the bridge bunnies and many others) in a suicide attack, moths after the enemy fleet is actually destroyed.
That's like....Aragorn getting killed by a lone goblin while walking trough the park, after all those epic battles. Total downer.
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Also let's remember that this is from an anime from the 80s, where proportions depended less on actual design and more on what the animator was feeling like that day, not to mention that it's a transformer whose parts from any mode barely fit into any other without some massive size distortion.
Oh no' I'd say they fit.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXNa88lRh4E&feature=related
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That would be the VF-0, Trashman, a different fighter (and coincidentally, by the creator of Macross, Shoji Kawamori's own admission, the first variable fighter where the transformation actually works without any size deforming or magical part swapping)
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The transformation is the same as the VF-1 tough. Minimal changes.
There are transformable toys of the VF-1 out there.
VF-1 is fully transformable ( judging by the blueprints), only it's not always drawn acccurately in Macross. Dimensions will never be 100% correct when you draw. Especially if you have to draw thousands of images from various angles.
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There's a difference between BSG grimdark and darkness in general. Macross has always been a hopeful series with hope in humanity.
Do you remember the ending, where they allied with the Zentraedi using the power of song, reconstructed Earth, built a bunch of Macross colony ships and became a galactic power within less than half a century?
I recall almost all of the cast ending up dead, often in very non-heroic ways.
Roy gets killed by friendly fire whole fending off a fake assault...all that after 3 years of intense combat in space. That other pilots dies surprisinlgy fast too.
Almost the whole Mascorss crew killed (Captain gloval, the bridge bunnies and many others) in a suicide attack, moths after the enemy fleet is actually destroyed.
That's like....Aragorn getting killed by a lone goblin while walking trough the park, after all those epic battles. Total downer.
Uuuh. Roy died from internal bleeding after fending off an actual Zentraedi assault.
And we don't know what happened to Global and the rest after the First Space War, besides the fact that Global retired.
Hikaru and a few others disappeared with their entire colony fleet. We don't know the specifics there at all, it's supposed to be kept mysterious.
Are you confusing this with Robotech? I don't remember this happening at all.
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Transformation isn't quite the same, for example, see the infamous leg retcon:
Nobody could figure out how the legs went from the body of the fighter to the tip of the nose during transformation, or what they held onto once they got there, hence, roughly a decade after the show came out, Shoji Kawamori came up with this:
(http://www.new-un-spacy.com/sdfmacross/vf-1a-valkyrie/vf-1-transformation4.gif)
Notice also that after transformation, the nose and wings shrink considerably in relation to the body, legs and arms (For example, look at my top down view on the last page, with the wings swept back, and see how far back they go, and compare to the rear view in this picture)
Also take a look at the thickness of the backpack and arms. Stack those on top of eachother, as in fighter mode, and their thickness greatly exceeds the width of the leg, yet the arms do not protrude lower than the legs in fighter mode.
(http://www.new-un-spacy.com/sdfmacross/vf-1a-valkyrie/colorcode-vf1a.gif)
Point being that it's anime magic that transforms this fighter, and later valkyries corrected this in their own designs. Simply take a look at those transformable toys and see how they stack up to these drawings in their proportions. The Bandai toy is on crack, the Yamato ones get the fighter mode pretty correctly, but battroid is a bit off (not to mention that the 1/72 toy is a partsformer)
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It occurs to me that, if I were a mod in here, I'd spoiler-mark half of this thread thanks to people who can't keep their traps shut about major plot points. :p
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Do you remember the ending, where they allied with the Zentraedi using the power of song, reconstructed Earth, built a bunch of Macross colony ships and became a galactic power within less than half a century?
I remember the ending where the Zentradi were more or less annihilated from Earth's population, otherwise mass cloning wouldn't have been needed for those Macross colony ships?
It's more a Brand-X rule than a FotG rule. He gets those comments. A lot. And they're usually wrong.
Your point? Even comparing the plan view and the one he gave, the nose is still too long. :P
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Do you remember the ending, where they allied with the Zentraedi using the power of song, reconstructed Earth, built a bunch of Macross colony ships and became a galactic power within less than half a century?
I remember the ending where the Zentradi were more or less annihilated from Earth's population, otherwise mass cloning wouldn't have been needed for those Macross colony ships?
Yeah, so what? It's still a hopeful series. Not BSG grimdark at all.
If it was BSG grimdark, all the pilots would have slept around with each other and there would have been loads of angst.
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As for the nose being longer in my version, I'd gladly post an overlay image if I really felt inclined, but knowing I'm right is good enough for now. Prove me wrong.
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As for the nose being longer in my version, I'd gladly post an overlay image if I really felt inclined, but knowing I'm right is good enough for now. Prove me wrong.
Fair enough.
Here's your side-by-side comparison. I helpfully cut them both down so I'd have a known reference when scaling. Interestingly, they don't come out the same way; the plan view version is six pixels taller when scaled for length with yours.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v307/ngtm1r/vf-1a-schematics.gif)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v307/ngtm1r/orthoside-1.jpg)
You've added intakes or something similar to the front of the small protrusions on the legs that are not there in the fighter-mode plan drawings. They are in the VF-1A B-mode pics, but are not the VT-1D/VF-1J version, and they are smaller because they are shaped differently in the VF-1A as compared to yours.
The nose is definitely the wrong shape.
The nose lasers are overenlongated, stretching further back then they should, and probably not as bulbous as they should be.
You've added a lip to the cockpit, and change in its canting at the rear as well as making it shorter.
The tail extension has developed an interesting bulbous tip that's not present in the plan view.
The midship fins are both the same size when the tailwards one should be smaller, are oversized.
The lower lip of the exhaust port is clearly enlongated past the upper in yours. The plan view shows them to be of equal length (though not equal angle).
Shall I go on?
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What are you *****ing about? Aside from the lack of the tank, and the little dongle sticking out the back (which probably should be straight back anyway), they overlap just about perfectly.
[attachment deleted by evil Tolwyn]
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What are you *****ing about? Aside from the lack of the tank, and the little dongle sticking out the back (which probably should be straight back anyway), they overlap just about perfectly.
I still see everything I listed?
In fact, the overlap doesn't actually illustrate some of the "additions" that were made, like the lip on the cockpit or the additional intake.
EDIT: In fact, I even missed the leg fins being placed wrong without the overlap.
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Actually I really appreciate the constructive criticism, finally we're getting somewhere, now if only every critique was done in that fashion we'd be rolling.
So, let's discuss:
Here's your side-by-side comparison. I helpfully cut them both down so I'd have a known reference when scaling. Interestingly, they don't come out the same way; the plan view version is six pixels taller when scaled for length with yours.
Seems pretty much about right. With big thick outlines like that sometimes it's tough to get an exact scale, so for the most part I aimed for my edges to line up just short of the middle or inside the outline in some cases. Going by the outer black edge leaves a rather bubbly shape.
You've added intakes or something similar to the front of the small protrusions on the legs that are not there in the fighter-mode plan drawings. They are in the VF-1A B-mode pics, but are not the VT-1D/VF-1J version, and they are smaller because they are shaped differently in the VF-1A as compared to yours.
Conflicting references, I'm also looking at many other images, especially those on the box art of the Hasegawa model kits, which are incredibly well done if you ask me. I chose to scale them to the size seen in those paintings, where they are quite prominent. I'm still fiddling with their shape
The nose is definitely the wrong shape.
I disagree, as chief pointed out, it seems to match up quite well except for right at the base where the head will be. That's simply a matter of sanity, you can have either a flat bottomed nose (which doesn't seem to be the case) or an indentation that rises higher up. I chose the latter
The nose lasers are overenlongated, stretching further back then they should, and probably not as bulbous as they should be.
Well, first off, they're not lasers, (unless you're talking about a single bad case of commissioned animation by an outside company, which most macross fans choose to ignore)
But anyways, they're placeholders
You've added a lip to the cockpit, and change in its canting at the rear as well as making it shorter.
I've since removed the lip after looking at photos of real aircraft canopies
The tail extension has developed an interesting bulbous tip that's not present in the plan view.
They are indeed there, it's tough to see as the plan view is rather low res. Their shape is off, but they're merely placeholders for now.
The midship fins are both the same size when the tailwards one should be smaller, are oversized.
That's a matter of conflicting references, while that plan view has one smaller than the other, many other pictures have them equally scaled
The lower lip of the exhaust port is clearly enlongated past the upper in yours. The plan view shows them to be of equal length (though not equal angle).
Artistic and functional choice for when it transforms to Battroid mode, as well as once again a case of conflicting references. In battroid mode, the forward "toe" protrudes further forward than the rear. If both were the same length in fighter mode, but with the rear having a sharper angle, it would have to stretch further back than the forward.
Shall I go on?
Absolutely, this is the type of discussion that really should be present in all WIP threads.
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Seems pretty much about right. With big thick outlines like that sometimes it's tough to get an exact scale, so for the most part I aimed for my edges to line up just short of the middle or inside the outline in some cases. Going by the outer black edge leaves a rather bubbly shape.
I'm still trying to figure out where the extra six pixels are coming from myself, but I'm at loss...and lunch break's over so this'll be my last post on the subject for a few hours.
Conflicting references, I'm also looking at many other images, especially those on the box art of the Hasegawa model kits, which are incredibly well done if you ask me. I chose to scale them to the size seen in those paintings, where they are quite prominent. I'm still fiddling with their shape
Fair enough. To be honest, IIRC those are running lights or something similar, and your design makes more sense, but that wasn't quite the point of the conversation. :)
I disagree, as chief pointed out, it seems to match up quite well except for right at the base where the head will be. That's simply a matter of sanity, you can have either a flat bottomed nose (which doesn't seem to be the case) or an indentation that rises higher up. I chose the latter.
The indentation appears to be of different shape, with the nose rising earlier in the plan view; I don't trust overlay to effectively show that kind of difference myself (the plan view's heavy lines hide things), and looking at the pictures side by side it definitely seems to be different.
Well, first off, they're not lasers, (unless you're talking about a single bad case of commissioned animation by an outside company, which most macross fans choose to ignore)
But anyways, they're placeholders
Sue me. :p I tend to regard the list of VF-1 weapons systems from the Robotech RPG as my reference. Besides, personal Discontinuity is all well and good, but expect it to bite you at some point.
That's a matter of conflicting references, while that plan view has one smaller than the other, many other pictures have them equally scaled
Fair enough. (I note the large VF-1 in flight line drawing I have does more or less exactly that.)
Artistic and functional choice for when it transforms to Battroid mode, as well as once again a case of conflicting references. In battroid mode, the forward "toe" protrudes further forward than the rear. If both were the same length in fighter mode, but with the rear having a sharper angle, it would have to stretch further back than the forward.
Fair enough, if getting this to transform properly is an objective. (And I admire your tenacity even if I slightly question your sanity for doing so, I tried to model a Cyclone from Mospeda/Robotech The Third once and discovered transformation was totally impossible).
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Just on the note of personal discontinuity, it's not personal, it's official. Egan Loo's Macross Compendium, which is accepted as official canon, says they're not lasers.
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Uuuh. Roy died from internal bleeding after fending off an actual Zentraedi assault.
Yes..but what caused the bleeding in the first place?
And we don't know what happened to Global and the rest after the First Space War, besides the fact that Global retired.
WTF? Kryion chrashed a battleship into the immobile SDF-1. Everyone died.
@brandx0 - As I have been saying, the original design is sound, the drawn proportions are off..especially the beefy arms and too small backpack.
Interestingly enough the VF-0 solves the leg problems in a simpler fashion
Yeah, so what? It's still a hopeful series. Not BSG grimdark at all.
If it was BSG grimdark, all the pilots would have slept around with each other and there would have been loads of angst.
You say that like it's a bad thing.
BSG can kiss my a***.
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You say that like it's a bad thing.
It is when the show's opening presents itself as an intense war series then throws sex scenes every five seconds at you.
The first episode was the reason why I didn't watch the damn show.
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Uuuh. Roy died from internal bleeding after fending off an actual Zentraedi assault.
Yes..but what caused the bleeding in the first place?
An actual Zentraedi assault. It's war. People die.
And we don't know what happened to Global and the rest after the First Space War, besides the fact that Global retired.
WTF? Kryion chrashed a battleship into the immobile SDF-1. Everyone died.
What are you on? I don't remember this happening at all. Which series was it?
...you're confusing this with Robotech, aren't you?
Yeah, so what? It's still a hopeful series. Not BSG grimdark at all.
If it was BSG grimdark, all the pilots would have slept around with each other and there would have been loads of angst.
You say that like it's a bad thing.
BSG can kiss my a***.
Well, duh, lots of boring angst is a bad thing. Macross managed to be dark while still being optimistic. There's a difference. (There was also an actual love story as well. None of this silly 'sleep around with each other because we are all have psychological problems'.)
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An actual Zentraedi assault. It's war. People die.
I seem to recall the damage to his craft and the bleeding being caused by a friendly craft during that assault....hmmmm
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Nah, it was a Queadluun-Rau that got him.
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Bit of an update here, got the beginnings of a gunpod, upper arms, and some more detail on the upper intakes and upper legs, as well as some slight reshaping here and there:
(http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/8458/vf1006.jpg)
(http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/4170/vf1007.jpg)
(http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/4944/vf1009.jpg)
(http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/9474/vf1008.jpg)
Also, back to clay renders for now, the colours were really just for testing purposes, as mentioned. Also, I'm aware of the slight smoothing problem at the back of the upper surface
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The gunpod is definitely too small; it should be large enough to extend beneath the leg fins slightly in F mode and the muzzle brake does not work that way; there is no actual slimming of the weapon past it since it's purely for show beyond that point. (This looks like the Anti-UN Valkyrie gun pod more than the VF-1.) More of a cigar shape than a cigarette at that.
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(http://www.new-un-spacy.com/sdfmacross/vf-1a-valkyrie/vf-1-gu11gunpod-schematic.gif)
I beg to differ
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Differing reference. Mine show it another way.
The size point stands, look at the plan view from earlier in the thread.
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Trash, you're wrong. Pretty much every character minus Hikaru's annoying wingmate (what was his name? the fat one), and Roy survived at the end of the show. Also, Roy died fighting off Meltradi + Zentraidi while they were captured by them.
Seriously, you're just wrong mate. Go watch the show again if you don't believe us.
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Trash, you're wrong. Pretty much every character minus Hikaru's annoying wingmate (what was his name? the fat one), and Roy survived at the end of the show. Also, Roy died fighting off Meltradi + Zentraidi while they were captured by them.
Seriously, you're just wrong mate. Go watch the show again if you don't believe us.
Actually I think Trash is right in this case, in the "rebuilding" story arc of the show after the big sing along battle over earth some Zentradii rebels do in fact crash a capital ship into the landed SDF-1 and I have to assume killing off the bridge crew. I can understand if people forget it the arc is pretty boring and felt tacked on after the previous one. It mostly centers around the Lynn Minmay/Misa Hayase/Hikaru love triangle.
From Wikipedia:
"Two years after the end of the first Space War the transition into the Human ways becomes difficult to some Zentradi who can't stand the idea of a pacified life. Quamzin Kravshera constantly incites conflicts towards the civilians. He repairs a damaged Zentradi warship to return to his old ways and attacks the new Macross City built around the SDF-1. Moments before the final Zentradi attack, Misa Hayase tells Hikaru Ichijyo of her feelings for him and her decision to leave to space in a colonization mission to preserve human culture across the galaxy. Lynn Minmay, who was left by Kaifun and now loves Hikaru, doesn't want him to leave to join the fight. However, Hikaru still goes to defend the city anyway. Eventually Quamzin is destroyed. After a long emotional conflict Hikaru finally decides to be with Misa and join the colonization mission, but the two remain good friends with Minmay in the end."
Sorry for contributing to the OT Brand, so that I don't feel like a complete reprobate I should say the Valkyrie looks ace.
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The bridge crew survive though. The Macross just gets badly damaged in that instance. He's confusing it with Robotech, where the bridge crew do die.
Brand, you going to model a transformed version as well?
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Of course
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Bit of an update here.
(http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/3972/vf1010.jpg)
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It's Jetfire... oh wait.. wrong series :shaking: :P
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:lol:
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Looks good. TBH I wouldn't worry about matching to your plans pixel-perfect. When I was intop high-poly stuff I grabbed 6 differnt plans of a Hawker Hunter fighter. Overlapped, they all differed slightly.
oh, and do the Vf22 next! :D
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I've read bits and pieces about an old Macross mod for FS2 before... this just happens to bring that to mind... Never played it, but there you go..
-Thaeris
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Don't suppose you've any 1S shots lying around perchance?
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If you've interest in actually flying a VF-1, perhaps you should follow this thread:
http://forums.x-plane.org/index.php?showtopic=39455&st=30
I apologize for linking to another forum...
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If you've interest in actually flying a VF-1, perhaps you should follow this thread:
http://forums.x-plane.org/index.php?showtopic=39455&st=30
I apologize for linking to another forum...
haha thats my thread :D but im in need of some help with textures atm and the 3d cockpit
friend of mine was helping with the mesh but he is busy atm so project is on hold but the VF-1 flys better then one would think
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Well, alright! Yourself along with Commander Zane make for two chaps I know on both the HLP and X-Plane.org!
More importantly,
(http://public.blu.livefilestore.com/y1pfO1aLlBLBsCqO86D1vjtot_suNq9pPasLoKZGpRPBSyh8vunkalgbj1CGFoVGEw5Ij_G_CvyTMiVBRGbGNNVuw/WelcomeAncient.png)
It's good to have you on board... tell us what the problem is and someone will surely lend a hand. ;)
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well i found some one that had modeled the cockpit at one point and they said i could use but im on my own to convert it
but its in a very old format and im not that great at blender friend of mine was doing most of the mesh work wile i work on the flight model
both are pretty much done leaving texturing and cockpit
the plan is to have 2 skins one perfectly clean in the demo team colors and another with weathering
as far as the cockpit goes things i need help with canopy needs to be done and a glass texture added
long term at some point im going write a new FLCS for it that will work more like the F-35s as well as the space FLCS and add fastpacks and an OMS system
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What file format is the cockpit? I might be able to help with inports/exports - I run AC3D, and thus I can help with these file formats:
http://www.inivis.com/features.html
Also, you might try contacting Brand if you'd like to try and use his model geometry. I'm not sure you'd want to do that, but it's just a suggestion.
Lastly, do you have any experience working with FreeSpace? There was a Macross Mod a while back - I'm sure RoboGetter G would be interested in a newer, better VF-1 to employ. :nod:
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friend of mine help with model mesh so for the most part that is done and totally original
thats the one you see in the XP thread
the cockpit i was loaned as it were is in .cob
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.cob? :ick:
Good Lord, I despise Truespace files utterly. However, I do have an importer for those wretched files for use with Blender, which I'll happily attach for you...
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Brand, should you care to, would you mind critiquing thier model geometry? I'm sure some detailed analysis of their aircraft would be appreciated.
:)
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Was that a hint? Yes they basically suck, but hey it's what's out there. Plus MP would probably be hurt if I didn't use the 12 or so models he made for me...
:D Kidding. Of course if Brandx0 ever takes that monster and turns it into a game mesh I would be thrilled.
But more importantly my efforts would be just that much less of an eyesore to Thaeris and the anti-LP ilk...
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And speaking of higher poly works, it's not like I can plop my favorate FS2 YF-19 (I recovered) into a Robotech mod. :nervous: The damn franchise police would be out in force and the forums would riot all over the damn internetz.
Oh Noes!
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I'm not sure what you're getting at there, Getter!
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Then consider yourself lucky, I won't go into detail about the 25+ year war between RT and Macross fans cause of Harmony Gold's stupidity of taking undue advantage of the legal system instead of making a partnership with the actual CREATORS of the source IP that would have benefited both greatly. (I blame mostly on the shoulders of one Frank Agarma)...
People like me who are fans of both franchises (American and Japanese) equally get caught in the crossfire and told we need to choose one side or the other otherwise our "fandom" is in question. I choose to give them all the finger! :drevil: