I believe that "SSD" (Shivan SuperDestroyer) is a canon designation, conferred to the Lucifer in FS1.Indeed.
Uh, the Iceni is a frigate.Also indeed, though I was never completely clear as to whether or not the 'F' in "NTF Iceni" specifically meant "Frigate" or "Front." It could probably go either way. A few fan-made campaigns (most notably Derelict) have used 'Ff' as a designation for frigate.
Where.I believe that "SSD" (Shivan SuperDestroyer) is a canon designation, conferred to the Lucifer in FS1.Indeed.
I believe that "SSD" (Shivan SuperDestroyer) is a canon designation, conferred to the Lucifer in FS1.
I believe that "SSD" (Shivan SuperDestroyer) is a canon designation, conferred to the Lucifer in FS1.Indeed.
Cruiser - Smallest combatant capital craft classification. Cruisers are at least several times the size of a fighter or bomber and possess mainly antifighter weaponry, with one or two (or in the case of the SC Rakshasa, three) anticapital weapons. The defensive fire of a cruiser is rarely capable of stopping a determined bomber wing, and most are vulnerable to even a well-handled lone fighter. Unable to carry fighters. Canonical examples include the Fenris and the Leviathan. In FS1, cruisers were deployed for both offensive and defensive tasks by all sides to any situation not requiring the attention of a destroyer. In FS2 Shivan cruisers are often deployed in mainline antiship and strike roles, while GTVA cruisers tend to be used as escorts and patrol craft.
Corvette - Middle ground combatant capital craft, falling between the cruiser and the destroyer in size and capablity. Equipped with between two and four anticapital weapons and considerably more impressive antifighter armament than a cruiser. Corvettes are capable of defending themselves adequately against a small number of enemy fighters or bombers. With the exception of the SCv Moloch, corvettes are unable to carry fighters of their own. Corvettes appear to handle most of the antiship and strike duties for the GTVA fleet; Shivan corvettes are extremely rare and have only been deployed against GTVA destroyers canonically. Whether this is their role or not is guesswork.
Destroyer - Large combatant capital craft, combining the functions of destroying enemy ships and transporting fighters. Destroyers vary wildly in armament and effectiveness against different types of targets. They will have at least one heavy-calibur anticapital weapon and probably several more, plus a number of cruiser-corvette anticapital weapons. Destroyers tend to need fighter cover more than corvettes; some of them actually mount fewer antifighter weapons, and all have much larger amounts of surface area that needs to be defended. Any situation with the direct involvement of a destroyer-class ship is by definition serious.
Superdestroyer - Bigger, meaner, and tougher than a destroyer, yet too small for the juggernaut classification; first applied well before the juggernaut classification came into existence. Only the Hades and Lucifer have canonically been given this classification. The nature of the canonical superdestroyers was such that any appearance by them indicates the major effort by the controlling side. Their success is often decisive for that system, while their failure is a blow that is difficult to recover from.
Juggernaut - The pinnacle of combatant capital craft, a juggernaut is capable of making mincemeat out of an enemy fleet singlehanded and is superbly equipped to combat other capital craft. Due to its large surface area its defenses against fightercraft attack are generally somewhat thinly spread, but a juggernaut's sheer ability to absorb damage means that only another juggernaut or a mass attack by corvettes and destroyers is capable of destroying one in anything like a timely manner. Only the SJ Sathanas has canonically been given this classification, though the Colossus could also be classified as juggernaut. The presence of a juggernaut, like a superdestroyer, indicates the controlling side considers the mission absolutely essential; decisive for the system if not the campaign or the entire war.
Installation - A space station, described as "installation" because of its size, self-sufficiency, and permanence. The only installation class canonically known is the Arcadia. The GTVA's naming system for installations generally includes something indicating their nature. Installation Riveria, Tombaugh Station, Enif Station, and the Vega Installation are examples.
Frigate - Semi-canonical ship class, both the Hippocrates and the Iceni have been referred to as frigates; the normally accepted role of a frigate is that of a pocket destroyer, lacking a fighterbay and fighter support facilities/crews enabling the ship to be shrunk down to only slightly bigger than a corvette.
I always thought the F in NTF Iceni meant Frigate.Uh, the Iceni is a frigate.Also indeed, though I was never completely clear as to whether or not the 'F' in "NTF Iceni" specifically meant "Frigate" or "Front." It could probably go either way. A few fan-made campaigns (most notably Derelict) have used 'Ff' as a designation for frigate.
GTC, PVC, GVC, SC- cruiser
SSD is non-canon. Just say it. Nyargh. :POkay, so I was thinking of the tech description instead of the in-mission designation. But I feel like, if Command was going to go out of their way to label the thing a superdestroyer, they could have at least changed the tag. :p
"" D = Drone
What's the AWACs designation again?
Advanced Warning And Control System
In terms of game, It's the GTA and GVA, respectively Terran and Vasudan, for the AWACS ships.
"SSD" isn't canon? Really? I could've sworn that the Lucifer got the SSD tag in the original FS1...It doesn't.
Phooey. Well, it should have. :p"SSD" isn't canon? Really? I could've sworn that the Lucifer got the SSD tag in the original FS1...It doesn't.
(Oh, wait, is this one of those instances I've heard about where people aren't actually talking to me?)It is :)
I always thought the F in NTF Iceni meant Frigate.
The F in NTF Iceni stands for Front... :nervous:It could stand for frigate.
I mean, the Bakha, a bomber, was called a fighter, and the Colossus is called a Soup.
Intelligence has tracked Admiral Bosch's command frigate, the NTF Iceni, through subspace.
It's a frigate.Quote from: LoukakisIntelligence has tracked Admiral Bosch's command frigate, the NTF Iceni, through subspace.
Although I doubt the F stands for frigate, as F already stands for fighter.
The Sathanas was supposed to be a one-of-a-kind ship, but yet still it was designated "Juggernaut".It was still a unique designation at the time. It would be a bit hard to give it a designation like those of the GTVA Colossus and NTF Iceni. I suppose they could have designated it 'flagship', but we don't know if the Shivans have flagships like we do. It would be a similar case for the Lucifer (sans the unique designation part), but the Hades would be tricky. GTI wouldn't work, because it could be confused as meaning it was an installation.
I doubt it, because F already stands for Fighter and prefixes are never, ever mixed up.A can stand for both AWACs and Alliance
Shivan cargo units are a bit meh.:doubt:
Also, I don't quite understand the need of using the "xSD" designation for superdestroyers. It's pretty much like pretending to use "SSC" for the Lilith and/or any ship belonging to a certain category that is slightly bigger than the others belonging to the same category.Except that the Lilith is the exact same size/shape as another cruiser, while the Lucifer and Hades are significantly larger than anything with a plain "destroyer" designation. :p
HehehehI think it has something to do with a shivan cargo container named "Escargot".
Hey Snail, how exactly did you get that custom title?
Except that the Lilith is the exact same size/shape as another cruiser, while the Lucifer and Hades are significantly larger than anything with a plain "destroyer" designation. :p
HehehehI think it has something to do with a shivan cargo container named "Escargot".
Hey Snail, how exactly did you get that custom title?
A Shivan cargo container named Escargot...? :wtf:I still don't get it...
Escargot is French for Snail, so:
Es-cargo-t. S-Cargo. Shivan Cargo. SC 5 (a weirdly shaped Shivan cargo). This is the explanation. :)
K, if you don't get it, just think of the SC 5 as a Snail-shaped cargo container. :Poh.