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General FreeSpace => FreeSpace Discussion => Topic started by: deathfun on April 22, 2009, 02:11:45 pm
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The title may denote that I require tech support of which I do not
It has taken quite a bit of time to find a place like this and now I am glad I found it. I enjoy Freespace quite a bit, but ever since I reinstalled the game, I went looking for more.
I am trying to find Freespace 2 as a CD, not a torrent but finding a store that still sells it is very, very difficult. If anyone can provide a place that would sell this game, do tell. Preferably a Canadian or non-exclusive American retail store would be quite useful. (Non-exclusive being it can be found in Canada).
Thank you for any assistance given.
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Do you mind buying on line?
Good Old Games (http://www.gog.com/en/gamecard/freespace_2)
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The other option would be eBay but finding FS2 there is difficult and will most likely cost a lot of money.
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Finding a CD would be very difficult. eBay would really have to be the best option for a CD but they can get expensive.
GoG is the best way to go if you don't mind it.
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The other option would be eBay but finding FS2 there is difficult and will most likely cost a lot of money.
GOG is the best way to do it. Last I checked the prices on eBay and amazon were monumental.
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$50-80 for FS2 when I took a quick glance.
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Well, that's more than monumental when compared to a mere $5 on GOG.
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GOG is the best way to do it. Last I checked the prices on eBay and amazon were monumental.
When I bought my FS2 as a CD on eBay about 2 years ago I just got for a mere $20.
BTW, doesn't GOG allow sold games to be burned onto a CD?
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The other option would be eBay but finding FS2 there is difficult and will most likely cost a lot of money.
GOG is the best way to do it. Last I checked the prices on eBay and amazon were monumental.
Indeed, old chap.
BTW, doesn't GOG allow sold games to be burned onto a CD?
They don't seem to specifically mention burning their games to CDs, but since you are allowed to download the game as many times as you want after purchasing it, I doubt they'd complain about it.
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I bought the British version of FS2 for 55Cdn. Try eBay, but it's really a rip-off. I'd suggest GoG.
Siggified.
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Yay, me likes to see more Canadians on the forums.
And Good Old Games is certainly the most palatable option, being at least ten time less than Ebay.
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This actually got further then I expected
Alright, thanks for all the suggestions, I shall take a look into all and see which best fits my budget/ability to obtain.
Thanks for your help
EDIT: I just noticed that you keep track on how many Canadians are on this site in you signature. Made me laugh colecampbell666
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The GoG version has no DRM, so it should be all right to burn it.
...in fact, DRM never existed in FS2 in the first place.
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GoG specifically states that you can do whatever you want with any game you download once you've purchased it from them. Their EULA specifically gives you the right to do entirely as you see fit. I should know- I read it through. :D
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I got it for Christmas, my brother paid $72 online. It gets expensive.
Totally worth it.
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I agree, I now have a hard copy if the original FS2.
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EDIT: I just noticed that you keep track on how many Canadians are on this site in you signature. Made me laugh colecampbell666
There's quite a few of us and the number is growing :D
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:drevil:
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We should stage a coup. IceFire for god! (If I get to be demigod)
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I'm dutch, will I be spared if you Canadians decide to seize control?
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You will be spared. We'll just get rid of the Americans. And maybe the Brits. The French shouldn't put up much of a fight.
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The stereotypical ones have pointy mustaches though, which may cause lacerations. :p
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True, but I've never heard that stereotype. You're thinking about Germans, I think.
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Back sort-of on topic... I paid $68 for my copy.
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You will be spared. We'll just get rid of the Americans. And maybe the Brits. The French shouldn't put up much of a fight.
Hurrah, all hail the great Canadians
Back sort-of on topic... I never bought freespace 2. I only started playing it because I could download it from here.
I bought Freespace 1&silent threat in one package long long time ago but it absolutely refused to be played on all computers I tried it on.
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Back sort-of on topic... I never bought freespace 2. I only started playing it because I could download it from here.
I bought Freespace 1&silent threat in one package long long time ago but it absolutely refused to be played on all computers I tried it on.
:mad2:
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I never bought freespace 2. I only started playing it because I could download it from here.
(http://omglol.kerrolisaa.com/1/5081.jpg)
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(http://xs538.xs.to/xs538/09170/oh_my560.jpg)
(Care to explain the angry reactions?)
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it is believed that everyone should have a copy of the game , but if i understand you have freespace 1 and silent threat...... so all you need o do is go to gog and download (and pay a few dollars ) for fs2....
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Because we prefer that people buy their FreeSpace legitimately. FYI, gog.com (http://gog.com) offers it for 5.99$.
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It's open source?
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The engine is. The artwork (i.e. Models, missions, music, maps, effects, interface art) is still property of Interplay.
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It's open source?
You're confusing Libris with Gratis.
Libris = Free Speech
Gratis = Free Beer
Freespace Open is of the first type, in that anyone can modify it and use it for their own (non-commercial) products. The source code for the engine was released, but the assets and the IP still belong to Interplay.
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Eh well, I don't really feel guilty.
I bought '2' of their games already and only became a fan recently because I could download it from here. Should they ever decide to make freespace 3 i'll be one of the first to buy it from the stores.
Don't really feel like buying a game online from some store either. I'll only get a digital copy of a game I already have on my harddrive. I'm a fan of having a good solid disk with a nice manual in a box in my hands. It's not that I want to be a cheap pirate, just that I actually want to get something for my money.
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Let that be a lesson then: If you haven't bought it legally, do not tell us about it. For your education, read this thread (http://www.game-warden.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=7144).
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That was Takashi though, it's different.
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Yeah, that is a more extreme example. Doesn't change the fact that getting the game for free and then complaining about errors is seriously frowned upon.
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Let that be a lesson then: If you haven't bought it legally, do not tell us about it. For your education, read this thread.
You are sounding a tad arrogant right now though, no need to get on the high horse and 'educate' me ya know.
Doesn't change the fact that getting the game for free and then complaining about errors is seriously frowned upon.
I know you probably don't intend it as such but now you are making it sound as if i'm doing the complaining part as well.
I just donated a few bucks to these forums, because of the awesome work you people have done and for the help with modding and such. I feel this is a better way to spend my money then to support some online store by buying a product I already have. And i'm certainly not buying it because someone on the internet thinks its the legal right way to do. Sorry.
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I apologize for that. But saying that you have a pirated version of the game is one of this forum's berserk buttons. The reason there hasn't been a FS3, or any similar space sim for several years now was partly due to the fact that FS2 didn't sell. Now that there is an opportunity for some wallet-voting, we (or at least, I) prefer that people do so.
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Oh crap, takashi's back?
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I apologize for that. But saying that you have a pirated version of the game is one of this forum's berserk buttons. The reason there hasn't been a FS3, or any similar space sim for several years now was partly due to the fact that FS2 didn't sell. Now that there is an opportunity for some wallet-voting, we (or at least, I) prefer that people do so.
"Pirated version" of a game that is 9 years old, open source and downloadable from this very site.
Anyway I some how doubt Voltion/(interplay?) will see much income from people buying a downloadable version of their old game for 6$ from some online shop? If any at all? I don't really understand on how it could considered wallet-voting this way. Are they going to decide "hey, we made 200 bucks because 100 people bought FS2 from www.gog.com. I think we should make FS3!" I somehow doubt that.
If I were to ever find a new copy of the game in a store somewhere (reasonably priced that is) i'd buy it that very instant. First most because i'd want the manual and the box and all that, secondary to support the creators.
But I think i'm 8 years too late for that.
I feel some people here are slightely overreacting though. "Oshi-! People are downloading a 9 year old game by using that neat launcher we ourselves created! And not every one of them is willing to spend 70$ to buy the game! INCONCEIVABLE! I HOPE YOU DIE IN YOUR SLEEP!!!" Come on guys, surely you aren't all that naive? (I realise this seems a bit flamebaitish but i'm honestly suprised here.)
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But as has been explained, the open source part only refers to the engine (the executable). Nothing else has been released to the public domain. And Interplay does get at least some Money out of every gog sale, IIRC.
I feel some people here are slightely overreacting though. "Oshi-! People are downloading a 9 year old game by using that neat launcher we ourselves created! And not every one of them is willing to spend 70$ to buy the game! INCONCEIVABLE! I HOPE YOU DIE IN YOUR SLEEP!!!" Come on guys, surely you aren't all that naive? (I realise this seems a bit flamebaitish but i'm honestly suprised here.)
It is an overreaction. It was tolerated for a time because there was no way for someone interested in the game to get it cheaply. Doesn't make it legal. And as a somewhat public entity, HLP doesn't want all the hassle that DMCA takedown notices generate. And what we're reacting to is more the inconceivability of people unwilling to pay 5,99$ for this game.
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Aright, I see where you people are coming from.
And what we're reacting to is more the inconceivability of people unwilling to pay 5,99$ for this game.
The game is worth way more then a mere 6$. It's just for me personally, that I don't like the idea of buying a game just to get the game. I want the physical objects that usually come with a game purchase as well.
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then go on ebay and pay up to 150$ for a copy , problem solved
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then go on ebay and pay up to 150$ for a copy , problem solved
:rolleyes:
I think you missed the part where I said reasonably priced. Also, buying something second hand isn't supporting the orginal creators at all.
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as no one is producing this in a cd formayt then buy it from gog , (your giving money to interplay) then burn the cd's and print off all of the books that are within ,this way you have every thing
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Anyway I some how doubt Voltion/(interplay?) will see much income from people buying a downloadable version of their old game for 6$ from some online shop? If any at all? I don't really understand on how it could considered wallet-voting this way. Are they going to decide "hey, we made 200 bucks because 100 people bought FS2 from www.gog.com. I think we should make FS3!" I somehow doubt that.
It's not about quality, rather quantity. If IP sees that over 9000 people buy FS2/FS1 from GoG, they'll realize that there is a base of people who'd buy further releases. I wouldn't want to see FS3, I'm just clarifying the point.
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Let's go easy on the proselytizing, everyone.
Spoon, the bottom line is that we heavily encourage everyone who doesn't have a legal copy of the game to purchase one from GoG, but we obviously can't force anyone to do so. The reason that the full game was available for download from this site for a period of time was because, at the time, there was literally no way in the world to legally purchase it outside of the odd ridiculously marked-up eBay or Amazon copy. The Powers That Be here decided that preventing the game from vanishing into obscurity was worth the technical copyright infringement. Then along came Good Old Games, which offered the original retail game for a very cheap price and with no DRM strings attached. Not only do we want people to support the original publishers of the game now that it's been made available again, but we'd also like to support GoG as a way of thanking them for the excellent product they're providing. But like I said, it's all up to you in the end.
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I bought Freespace 1&silent threat in one package long long time ago but it absolutely refused to be played on all computers I tried it on.
That's odd...
Did it by chance have an error message saying that the current dll is unstable and should be shut down? (Something along those lines). I got the same message for two of my games, Freespace and Tachyon (for those who don't know... it is also another space simulator game). Ignore it and pursue to install it.
If that is not the case... what seems to be the issue? Or will it simply not prompt you?
Open source download? I never knew about this! I am not a big fan of buying online however... so most of these are out of the question.
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I bought Freespace 1&silent threat in one package long long time ago but it absolutely refused to be played on all computers I tried it on.
That's odd...
Did it by chance have an error message saying that the current dll is unstable and should be shut down? (Something along those lines). I got the same message for two of my games, Freespace and Tachyon (for those who don't know... it is also another space simulator game). Ignore it and pursue to install it.
If that is not the case... what seems to be the issue? Or will it simply not prompt you?
It simply didn't prompt me. Install went fine but I could click 'play' all I want, nothing would happen. Maybe there were ways around it but hell, I was like 14 year tops back then.
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Just curiously, how much would it cost voliton to make fs3? 3 guy with time on their hands? A few thousand? A few ten thousands? A few hundred thousand? A few million? Or what?
And, er, I'm :nervous: Canadian :nervous: *cough*colour*cough*
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Well how much does the average game cost? They'd have to buy the license from InterPlay, 250000 right there.
A typical modern video game can cost from USD$1,000,000 to over $20,000,000 to develop.
Siggified.
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So about... 1.8 million people would have to pay $5.99, on average. Sounds realistic.
Also take into account all the people with Freespace the Great War and Freespace 2 who don't know there's an update to the game (aka scp, mediavps, this website) and think it's an old, bad graphics 20th century game (speaking of a friend who I told about the scps better graphics, better quality, better everything and yet seems to of forgotten to simply download it).