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Title: The Cylons were created by man........
Post by: Kosh on April 24, 2009, 03:36:14 am
 They evolved (http://www.physorg.com/news157900674.html)

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Prof Ross King, who led the research at Aberystwyth University, said: "Ultimately we hope to have teams of human and robot scientists working together in laboratories".

The scientists at Aberystwyth University and the University of Cambridge designed Adam to carry out each stage of the scientific process automatically without the need for further human intervention. The robot has discovered simple but new scientific knowledge about the genomics of the baker's yeast Saccharomyces cerevisiae, an organism that scientists use to model more complex life systems. The researchers have used separate manual experiments to confirm that Adam's hypotheses were both novel and correct.


Thoughts?
Title: Re: The Cylons were created by man........
Post by: Grizzly on April 24, 2009, 04:04:49 am
That, instead of watching Battlestar Galactica, we should read Isaac Asimov?
Title: Re: The Cylons were created by man........
Post by: Kosh on April 24, 2009, 08:26:09 am
Well then again the Cylons were AI's created to do our work for us, maybe including research.
Title: Re: The Cylons were created by man........
Post by: redsniper on April 25, 2009, 01:34:45 am
Some are programmed to think they are human...
Title: Re: The Cylons were created by man........
Post by: Flipside on April 25, 2009, 02:00:02 am
Always been fascinated by the theory of Psycho-history in the foundation books to be honest, there's something to be said for abstraction and the concept that, once you get into the tens of Billions of humans spread across several planets, it's actually possible to start using a kind of statistical version of psychology to predict trends in those societies has always had a strange interest.
Title: Re: The Cylons were created by man........
Post by: S-99 on April 25, 2009, 07:28:41 am
Spoiler:
The one thing that sort of ruins it for me with bsg's caprica. Is that the first cylon consciousness was actually just a naive young girl's conscious being uploaded into the first cylon robotic body that believed in monotheism. That really ruined the bsg centurions coming upon believing in monotheism by themselves through their own methods, beliefs, and experiences. Instead it was all just borrowed from a human. In fact centurion AI was just actual human intelligence. Way to ruin it, technically the caprican laws banning certain AI advances and studies don't apply since a massive shortcut was taken.
Title: Re: The Cylons were created by man........
Post by: Mobius on April 25, 2009, 07:33:47 am
That, instead of watching Battlestar Galactica, we should read Isaac Asimov?

:yes:
Title: Re: The Cylons were created by man........
Post by: castor on April 25, 2009, 09:04:20 am
By the sound of it they integrated parts that already existed in a form or another, to allow it to work independently.
Great work, but probably nothing to warrant an Asimov-level alarm :)
Title: Re: The Cylons were created by man........
Post by: Kosh on April 25, 2009, 09:32:14 am
Why not follow BSG? I have no doubt the army is working on a bot to fight our wars for us.


EDIT: Yep, here's  one (http://gizmodo.com/5160863/big-dogs-us-army-antics-keep-freaking-us-out)
Title: Re: The Cylons were created by man........
Post by: General Battuta on April 25, 2009, 09:51:54 am
Spoiler:
The one thing that sort of ruins it for me with bsg's caprica. Is that the first cylon consciousness was actually just a naive young girl's conscious being uploaded into the first cylon robotic body that believed in monotheism. That really ruined the bsg centurions coming upon believing in monotheism by themselves through their own methods, beliefs, and experiences. Instead it was all just borrowed from a human. In fact centurion AI was just actual human intelligence. Way to ruin it, technically the caprican laws banning certain AI advances and studies don't apply since a massive shortcut was taken.

She certainly wasn't naive. And how else would machines become religious?

That, instead of watching Battlestar Galactica, we should read Isaac Asimov?

:yes:

Asimov is very important, but, arguably, the questions he laid out have been explored much more fully in BSG. (It also has the advantage of better writing.)
Title: Re: The Cylons were created by man........
Post by: Pred the Penguin on April 25, 2009, 09:56:54 am
EDIT: Yep, here's  one (http://gizmodo.com/5160863/big-dogs-us-army-antics-keep-freaking-us-out)
That thing is gonna haunt my dreams. o_o
Title: Re: The Cylons were created by man........
Post by: redsniper on April 25, 2009, 12:20:34 pm
There are many copies.
Title: Re: The Cylons were created by man........
Post by: Snail on April 25, 2009, 01:15:53 pm
EDIT: Yep, here's  one (http://gizmodo.com/5160863/big-dogs-us-army-antics-keep-freaking-us-out)
heee heee that loooks funnee like something from Doctor Who.
Title: Re: The Cylons were created by man........
Post by: colecampbell666 on April 25, 2009, 04:52:26 pm
EDIT: Yep, here's  one (http://gizmodo.com/5160863/big-dogs-us-army-antics-keep-freaking-us-out)
That thing is gonna haunt my dreams. o_o
****! That thing looks like a Hunter, and those things scare the **** out of me when they jump out. The sounds...
Title: Re: The Cylons were created by man........
Post by: S-99 on April 25, 2009, 07:23:21 pm
She certainly wasn't naive. And how else would machines become religious?
The cylons were super advanced robots, i was just tossing around the possibility that they perhaps came up with the idea of monotheism themselves. As opposed to the monotheism belief being carried over from a human consciousness.
Title: Re: The Cylons were created by man........
Post by: NGTM-1R on April 25, 2009, 08:28:54 pm
The cylons were super advanced robots, i was just tossing around the possibility that they perhaps came up with the idea of monotheism themselves. As opposed to the monotheism belief being carried over from a human consciousness.

A robot doesn't have a Creator myth. It would know who made it.
Title: Re: The Cylons were created by man........
Post by: S-99 on April 25, 2009, 09:25:48 pm
Yes, but in bsg you still have robots believing in a god.
Title: Re: The Cylons were created by man........
Post by: NGTM-1R on April 25, 2009, 09:43:56 pm
Yes, but in bsg you still have robots believing in a god.

Because they were originally cyborgs. :P
Title: Re: The Cylons were created by man........
Post by: General Battuta on April 25, 2009, 11:58:51 pm
She certainly wasn't naive. And how else would machines become religious?
The cylons were super advanced robots, i was just tossing around the possibility that they perhaps came up with the idea of monotheism themselves. As opposed to the monotheism belief being carried over from a human consciousness.

I'm pretty sure super advanced robots wouldn't come up with monotheism, being super advanced.
Title: Re: The Cylons were created by man........
Post by: redsniper on April 26, 2009, 03:21:32 am
I liked it better when they thought it up themselves.
Title: Re: The Cylons were created by man........
Post by: Ace on April 26, 2009, 04:17:11 am
...and they have a plan.

Oh wait, no they didn't. Neither did the writers. :snipe: