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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: Mobius on April 26, 2009, 12:07:26 pm
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Do ambitions and dreams (=hopes for the future, not night-time dreams) help? Do they give the boost anyone needs to study, work, and - why not? - mod games?
Ambition seems, by definition, a bad word. It's not used to define a good behavior, because ambitious people usually put the others to an inferior level (or, at least, they attempt to). I don't want to do that, because I'm a modest person (feel free to say whatever you want about my behavior on the internet, but Real Life is what it is), so I'd like to know what you guys think about having particular ambitions in terms of jobs, games, and so on.
Does hoping to achieve a lot help, or it's just one of the several ways to illude ourselves?
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Life.. Dreams... Hope... Where'd they come from? ...And where are they headed? These things... I am going to to destroy!
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I'm pretty certain that my ambitions, however unrealistic, are what keep me sane.
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I want to be the very best
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Like no-one ever was.
I think of ambition as a good thing, but only to a point. When ambition causes (not quite the right word) someone to proverbially stab someone in the back just to rise to the next rank, it becomes... less than good (my thesaurus just crapped out on me).
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Do you know else was ambitious? Hitler.
(went there)
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Bill Gates? Donald Trump? <insert successful person here>?
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What's it like to have ambitions/hopes for the future/etc?
I've always been curious about that.
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I'm extremely ambitious, but I'm also an asshole. This may be more related to me being a programmer then me being ambitious, though.
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Do you know else was ambitious? Hitler.
Hitler just wanted to be an artist at first, then he went evil when he ate too much cake.
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What's it like to have ambitions/hopes for the future/etc?
I've always been curious about that.
disappointing
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Ambition seems, by definition, a bad word. It's not used to define a good behavior, because ambitious people usually put the others to an inferior level (or, at least, they attempt to). I don't want to do that, because I'm a modest person (feel free to say whatever you want about my behavior on the internet, but Real Life is what it is), so I'd like to know what you guys think about having particular ambitions in terms of jobs, games, and so on.
The way I see it, aspiring to do the best that you can in whatever you do shouldn't impinge on the aspirations of others, or be perceived as putting them down. That said, in RL it's easy to compare yourself to others, and see things as a competition. I don't think I'm ambitious really, and I would hate to think that I give the impression of being arrogant or big-headed just because I reach (or am intending to reach) a goal that others have not.
Seeing things as a challenge, trying to outdo yourself and stretch your abilities....is that ambition? If it's kept to oneself and a person doesn't become snobbish about it, and is modest, then I don't think it's bad (IMO). Just don't let it get out of hand.
At school I tried to be a high achiever in most subjects that I didn't have learning issues with, but I didn't consider myself a "super-student." There were a fair few people that disliked me just because I actually tried to study, so maybe they didn't like ambitious people. But I didn't see myself as one.
Do ambitions and dreams (=hopes for the future, not night-time dreams) help? Do they give the boost anyone needs to study, work, and - why not? - mod games?
When I'm studying I tend to have a negative mindset, usually when I'm revising for exams, because I force myself into thinking that I'll fail if I don't really try hard, or that getting a grade B wouldn't be doing myself justice, because I dislike being complacent about my ability. So I tend to doubt myself in order that I'll force myself to try harder to reach the grade I want. So perhaps I do have ambition, but not in the bad sense that you describe. It's good for people to have goals in life as long as they meet those goals without harming anyone.
Does hoping to achieve a lot help, or it's just one of the several ways to illude ourselves?
Hope is the first step on the road to dissapointment (<----WH40K creed for ya. ;))
To be serious, I think that a person can dream but he/she has to think realistically too. There're lots of things that I'd like to do/achieve in the future. I have.....a bit of hope that I'll get around to doing some of them, but I'm not sure I have the willpower (there's my self-doubt creeping in again). Constantly hoping or wishing for things and not taking the necessary steps to get those things isn't going to help me.
Erm, I think I'm rambling a bit.... Just stating a few things that might help this discussion.
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Ambition seems, by definition, a bad word. It's not used to define a good behavior, because ambitious people usually put the others to an inferior level (or, at least, they attempt to). I don't want to do that, because I'm a modest person (feel free to say whatever you want about my behavior on the internet, but Real Life is what it is), so I'd like to know what you guys think about having particular ambitions in terms of jobs, games, and so on.
The need to put other people down is a symptom of some not-so-well-developed part of ones personality, rather than a sign of ambition. You need no excuses if you just strive hard to reach goals that are important to you.
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"I'm sick of chasing my dreams man. I'm just gonna ask them where they're going and hook up with them later."
--Mitch Hedberg
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Ambition isn't a bad thing, the bad thing that comes with ambition are things like arrogance and superior attitude.
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Ambition isn't a bad thing, the bad thing that comes with ambition are things like arrogance and superior attitude.
Like how you're trying to tell people they'll go to hell if they don't join up with your religion because you're right and they're wrong.
Look, I'm sorry, but you were just asking for that.
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Like no-one ever was.
To catch them is my real test.
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To train them is my caaaauuuuse
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To train them is my caaaauuuuse
NOT TODAY MOTHERTRUCKER (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPvmIxu-LSA)
Warning: strong language
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I'm pretty certain that my ambitions, however unrealistic, are what keep me sane.
Mine on the other hand, are what's keeping me insane.
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Ambition isn't a bad thing, the bad thing that comes with ambition are things like arrogance and superior attitude.
Like how you're trying to tell people they'll go to hell if they don't join up with your religion because you're right and they're wrong.
Look, I'm sorry, but you were just asking for that.
I'll be blunt, I can speak from experience that ambition is a good thing, because I almost completely lack ambition. It's the main reason I'm 31 years old(this past friday), living at home with nothing but a pointless AS degree that took me 7 years to earn and about $50 in the bank, which btw is why I don't, and never have had a friend of the female persuasion in that way, I have nothing to offer. So trust me when I say, ambition is a good thing and I pray to God I wish I had some.
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Without setting goals in life, we would do nothing to achieve those goals, and then we wouldn't be doeing a lot.
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Without setting goals in life, we would do nothing to achieve those goals, and then we wouldn't be doeing a lot.
Exactly, my ambition/passion/goal is the only reason I do anything school/intellectual related. Otherwise I would just sit at home and gain weight ;)
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...did I kill this thread? :sigh:
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You'd better not have.... :pimp:
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Ambition is good to keep you rolling along. I have a few ambitions but none of them are career related actually. Maybe that will change later on but right now I have confused and conflicting priorities relating to dating, career, and personal goals. I'm moving up a bit now...slowly but surely....but not feeling like I'm very far ahead yet.
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Life would be incredibly boring without ambition and vaguely impossible dreams that just might be doable.
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Life would be incredibly boring without ambition and vaguely impossible dreams that just might be doable.
Yes
Ambition just motivated me to do my physics holiday homework :P
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Slow and steady wins the race. So long as you're doing something to work towards your final goal, you'll get there. This involves a lot of self reflection as to what you really want to do in life. For instance, it took me five years of setbacks and pain to get into my grad degree, and I must have learned more about myself in those five years than the previous twenty before that.
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(http://www.about-personal-growth.com/image-files/ambition.jpg)