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Title: Visit Sunny Alberta! Hang on a sec.....
Post by: karajorma on April 29, 2009, 07:08:34 am
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/apr/25/ottawa-northumberland-advert

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The sea was blue, the beach was gold and the children skipping through the sand dunes seemed a testament to the healthy joys of holidays in the Canadian province of Alberta.

Tourist officials and the national government in Ottawa were delighted with the promotional clip, part of a £14m attempt to offset controversy over oil extraction in Alberta's beautiful wildlands.

But hours of sleuthing by a puzzled sailing enthusiast, aware that Alberta has no coastline, have revealed that the idyll was filmed 5,000 miles away across the Atlantic. The girl with the flying hair and her friend were romping on the sweep of sand at Beadnell Bay near Bamburgh, Northumberland, where the North Sea rolls in from Lindisfarne.

"We think it's quite funny - a landlocked province in Canada presenting an image of itself as an island," said Sheelagh Caygill of Northumberland Tourism, which is now fondly hoping to piggy-back on the international campaign. News of the gaffe is spreading like wildfire on the internet with tags such as: "Come to Alberta - no, wait, it's Britain."

:lol:
Title: Re: Visit Sunny Alberta! Hang on a sec.....
Post by: Dilmah G on April 29, 2009, 07:27:44 am
:lol: n00bs, it's amazing what lengths advertising companies/this place in general go to promote the place. Alberta having no coastline... FAIL
Title: Re: Visit Sunny Alberta! Hang on a sec.....
Post by: karajorma on April 29, 2009, 07:34:07 am
They do have lakes so it's not completely stupid to use a beach in shots of the place. But it is still about the biggest FAIL you can make when trying to convince people that your province is worth visiting. :D
Title: Re: Visit Sunny Alberta! Hang on a sec.....
Post by: The E on April 29, 2009, 07:38:26 am
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Ottawa has responded by suggesting that the choice of Northumberland symbolised the fact that "Albertans are a worldly people". Tom Olsen, head of media relations for Canada's prime minister Stephen Harper, said: "There's no attempt to mislead here. The picture used just fitted the mood and tone of what we were trying to do."

His take that the British children were "a symbol of the future" was echoed by Olga Guthrie of Alberta's public affairs bureau, who is managing the campaign. She said: "This represents Albertans' concern for the future of the world. There's no attempt to make people think that the place pictured is Alberta."

Nice try, PR people. You still fail. Is it really that hard to find a picture of an Albertan lake that fits the same description? Or, you know, using a camera to shoot one yourself?
Title: Re: Visit Sunny Alberta! Hang on a sec.....
Post by: Dilmah G on April 29, 2009, 07:40:10 am
Yeah, filming the ACTUAL province. To think, it would've cost less which is a definite plus in the recession.
Title: Re: Visit Sunny Alberta! Hang on a sec.....
Post by: colecampbell666 on April 29, 2009, 07:58:44 am
Now was the real filming in Newfieland or England, as both places share names? (Northumberland, Lindsfarne)
Title: Re: Visit Sunny Alberta! Hang on a sec.....
Post by: Grizzly on April 29, 2009, 08:28:31 am
Yeah, filming the ACTUAL province. To think, it would've cost less which is a definite plus in the recession.

One might just be suprised, too.
/me , on another note, now suspects that adverts for vacations to the UK are actually filmed in Ireland...
Title: Re: Visit Sunny Alberta! Hang on a sec.....
Post by: StarSlayer on April 29, 2009, 08:45:03 am
I'd like to know if any sorry sods didn't bother to look at a map first and were disappointed by the lack of ocean beach when they visited.
Title: Re: Visit Sunny Alberta! Hang on a sec.....
Post by: MP-Ryan on April 29, 2009, 09:07:10 am
We have countless lakes, rivers, and the friggin rocky mountains - and they took footage of an ocean beach?  Seriously?  *sigh*

Lake Louise is one of the most beautiful views I've ever seen... but no, beach shots of an ocean beach in a landlocked province.  Wow.
Title: Re: Visit Sunny Alberta! Hang on a sec.....
Post by: Rick James on April 29, 2009, 09:10:25 am
Alberta's nice, really. I like living here.

The problem is that unless you head for the mountains the scenery while driving in the countryside consists of (in order) trees, uncultivated field, rolling hills, cows, trees, farmer's field, farmer's field, farmer's field, trees, field, trees, cows, llama pasture.
Title: Re: Visit Sunny Alberta! Hang on a sec.....
Post by: ShadowsOfLight on April 29, 2009, 01:18:16 pm
Yeah, I wasn't too happy when I heard about this - kind of embarrassing...
Title: Re: Visit Sunny Alberta! Hang on a sec.....
Post by: Rodo on April 29, 2009, 01:44:30 pm
reminds me of those "loose 10 pounds in 3 seconds with super duper amerilambbb pill!!!" commercials
Title: Re: Visit Sunny Alberta! Hang on a sec.....
Post by: Angelus on April 29, 2009, 01:57:34 pm
Alberta's nice, really. I like living here.

The problem is that unless you head for the mountains the scenery while driving in the countryside consists of (in order) trees, uncultivated field, rolling hills, cows, trees, farmer's field, farmer's field, farmer's field, trees, field, trees, cows, llama pasture.


Hm, maybe that's the reason they choose to show a beach instead of...
...trees, uncultivated field, rolling hills, cows, trees, farmer's field, farmer's field, farmer's field, trees, field, trees, cows, llama pasture...

 :D
Title: Re: Visit Sunny Alberta! Hang on a sec.....
Post by: Mobius on April 29, 2009, 03:56:37 pm
No offense to the fellow Canadian HLPers, but I hard believe tourists visit Canada thanks to its weather. Everytime I see the weather forecast on BBC World News Canadian cities seem to be in a perpetual ice age. :nervous:
Title: Re: Visit Sunny Alberta! Hang on a sec.....
Post by: karajorma on April 29, 2009, 04:00:40 pm
While people visit Northumberland for the weather? :p

Maybe if they really, really like rain. :D
Title: Re: Visit Sunny Alberta! Hang on a sec.....
Post by: colecampbell666 on April 29, 2009, 05:13:47 pm
No offense to the fellow Canadian HLPers, but I hard believe tourists visit Canada thanks to its weather. Everytime I see the weather forecast on BBC World News Canadian cities seem to be in a perpetual ice age. :nervous:
That's why you visit B.C., you can use the cold to your advantage. And they have defined seasons. Here on the other side we have slush, warmer slush, super humid summer (Florida without the heat) and Super-cold without snow.
Title: Re: Visit Sunny Alberta! Hang on a sec.....
Post by: tinfoil on April 29, 2009, 05:36:33 pm
BC can be pretty damn warm too. I've suffered through 40 degree (Celsius) plus. (100+ Fahrenheit)

And, that add is bull**** anyway. Nobody comes to Alberta for our lakes, they come for the mountains and the stampede. (AKA Gong-Show) 

They should have taken a picture like this, it looks better anyway.

(http://www.bergoiata.org/fe/Mattes1/Canada%20-%20Alberta%20-%20Moraine%20Lake.jpg)

Title: Re: Visit Sunny Alberta! Hang on a sec.....
Post by: colecampbell666 on April 29, 2009, 05:37:38 pm
You're making me drool.

*Pets K2s*...
Title: Re: Visit Sunny Alberta! Hang on a sec.....
Post by: tinfoil on April 29, 2009, 05:40:33 pm
K2 Skis? Cause' that's not a good place for skiing.
Title: Re: Visit Sunny Alberta! Hang on a sec.....
Post by: colecampbell666 on April 29, 2009, 05:43:46 pm
No, but Lake Louise is.
Title: Re: Visit Sunny Alberta! Hang on a sec.....
Post by: Mobius on April 29, 2009, 05:48:31 pm
I wouldn't trust a lake... :nervous:
Title: Re: Visit Sunny Alberta! Hang on a sec.....
Post by: tinfoil on April 29, 2009, 05:49:27 pm
No, but Lake Louise is.

Meh, it's okay. Revelstoke kicks it's ass down the street and back though. If you ever get the chance, GO THERE. It's better than whistler and full of mainly locals. :yes: And of course, the longest vertical in north america + 12 meters of snow per year =  :jaw:
Title: Re: Visit Sunny Alberta! Hang on a sec.....
Post by: colecampbell666 on April 29, 2009, 06:54:33 pm
Why better than Whistler? Less crowded? My school will be taking a trip out to BC next year, and as the coordinator, I have to decide which hill we'll visit. What'd you suggest for a week of skiing?
Title: Re: Visit Sunny Alberta! Hang on a sec.....
Post by: Roanoke on April 30, 2009, 06:41:58 am
I'd rather see mountains and forests and lakes and stuff than a windy beach. A windy beach on the North Sea coast :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Visit Sunny Alberta! Hang on a sec.....
Post by: MP-Ryan on April 30, 2009, 11:28:09 am
Why better than Whistler? Less crowded? My school will be taking a trip out to BC next year, and as the coordinator, I have to decide which hill we'll visit. What'd you suggest for a week of skiing?

Having grown up in the Kootenay region of BC and being an avid skier all my life.... =)

In order:
1.  Fernie
2.  Lake Louise
3.  Big White (near Kelowna).

I grew up skiing Red Mountain Resort, which is a small resort with the best backcountry of any of the resorts I've visited, bar none (including Revelstoke).  That said, it's not a good place for beginners and I imagine a school trip will have people of all levels of expertise.  Thus, Fernie and Lake Louise are your best choices.  Both have a huge amount of accessible terrain for all skill levels and the local facilities will be sufficient to house a school trip.  Both are also within easy transit distance of Calgary and/or Cranbrook (the two nearest airports).  Big White lacks the amount of expert terrain of those two, but is located close to Kelowna, which is a major airport and a reasonable sized city, whereas the other two are kind of in the middle of nowhere.

All three have much more reasonable lift and accomodation rates than Whistler and are much closer to convenient transportation.  Frankly, it will be a better experience and cost you less.  If it were me, I'd avoid Whistler like the plague.
Title: Re: Visit Sunny Alberta! Hang on a sec.....
Post by: colecampbell666 on April 30, 2009, 02:12:06 pm
Yeah, that's what I was thinking. My mom taught at Red Mountain when she was 20 or so, she speaks highly of it.

So Fernie'd be a good destination? I'm one of the top skiers in my school, and Red'd be a bit much for most of the crowd. Fernie looks to have a good variety of terrain, as you said.
Title: Re: Visit Sunny Alberta! Hang on a sec.....
Post by: MP-Ryan on April 30, 2009, 02:14:53 pm
Yeah, that's what I was thinking. My mom taught at Red Mountain when she was 20 or so, she speaks highly of it.

So Fernie'd be a good destination? I'm one of the top skiers in my school, and Red'd be a bit much for most of the crowd. Fernie looks to have a good variety of terrain, as you said.

If it were me, I'd pick Lake Louise.  2.5 hours from Calgary airport, all the facilities, only 5% GST (no provincial taxes, unlike Fernie), good mix of terrain, and you're right in the middle of the Rockies.  Lots of things to see and do in the area.  If all the trip is about is skiing and absolutely nothing else, then Fernie is the better option.
Title: Re: Visit Sunny Alberta! Hang on a sec.....
Post by: colecampbell666 on April 30, 2009, 02:23:00 pm
It's about skiing to whoever's paying to go, This is the school ski club.
Title: Re: Visit Sunny Alberta! Hang on a sec.....
Post by: tinfoil on April 30, 2009, 05:43:55 pm
I'm in love with Revelstoke myself, but Red Mountain is a hell of a hill as well.

Hmm... as for a place to go, Avoid Sunshine, it's a hole. I can't say anything of Fernie, having never been there. Panorama is a good All-levels hill, but leaves out a whole lot of snow that you might find elsewhere. Castle Mountain is heavenly on a good snow year.

It really depends on what kind of experience you're going for, and also when you'll be there. For me it breaks down to:

Advanced Terrain + Powder: Revelstoke, Castle Mountain.

All Skill Levels: Lake Louise, Panorama, Sun Peaks (Kamloops)

Beginner: COP :p Panorama, Norquay

Good skiing + Other stuff to do: Lake Louise, Panorama.


EDIT: When are you going to be there? Depending on where you go and what you do there's a chance I could see you wandering around.
 
Title: Re: Visit Sunny Alberta! Hang on a sec.....
Post by: colecampbell666 on April 30, 2009, 05:48:50 pm
Mid-March. I'm just waiting for uni in a few years, UBC beckons to me...
Title: Re: Visit Sunny Alberta! Hang on a sec.....
Post by: tinfoil on April 30, 2009, 05:57:02 pm
If you want good snow late season like that I'd say Revy's your best bet, or if you don't mind a little slush then Panorama.

Orrrr... If you don't mind flying into Kamloops, Sun Peaks would still be good, plus it's only half an hour or so from the airport. It just doesn't have much expert terrain.

Title: Re: Visit Sunny Alberta! Hang on a sec.....
Post by: karajorma on April 30, 2009, 06:08:18 pm
/me is upset that this thread didn't increase tourism to Northumberland. :p
Title: Re: Visit Sunny Alberta! Hang on a sec.....
Post by: Liberator on May 01, 2009, 01:58:36 am
This reminds me of Forrest Gump.  Story took place in Alabama.  But, apparently from what has been said, Alabama didn't look enough like Alabama so they went 20 miles into Georgia to film.
Title: Re: Visit Sunny Alberta! Hang on a sec.....
Post by: Dilmah G on May 01, 2009, 10:44:55 am
 :lol:

I find it pretty damn funny when that happens