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Title: Hello Icefire
Post by: PSYCHO on May 20, 2009, 03:16:39 pm
 Hello Ice and all  :D I cant believe that you are still working with the FreeSpace Game!! Cheers for your Hard work.......Just wanted to drop in and say hello. Truely amazing things you have done with the game thus far. Good luck to you all and have fun.... :)
 PSYCHO
Title: Re: Hello Icefire
Post by: Raven2001 on May 20, 2009, 04:04:04 pm
Hmm, are you the same PSYCHO who used to do ship concepts (some of which I modelled later)?
Title: Re: Hello Icefire
Post by: PSYCHO on May 20, 2009, 04:06:45 pm
Would that be the Nexus?
Title: Re: Hello Icefire
Post by: PSYCHO on May 20, 2009, 04:14:27 pm
 Oh I also did a model in game of the Bastion 2 Dreadnought destroyer and a Nike class Corvett and a few things with retextures
 :D lol Yea Ive been gone for awhile....I was thinking of getting back into Freespace since I bought LW9 ?......... I also have a huge concept art set for FS ...Ive been out of it for sometime.................. I would like to see anything you may have done from my concept? ;7

Title: Re: Hello Icefire
Post by: IceFire on May 20, 2009, 06:50:45 pm
Welcome back PSYCHO :)

I wouldn't call what I do recently hard work...I'm the lazy one on the team.  But the team does some great stuff whenever they have time.  We need more talent to help us finish but its difficult to get what we need.

Stay awhile...check out all of the good stuff thats going on with the Source Code and Upgrade Projects.  FreeSpace 2 looks stunning with all of the upgrades!
Title: Re: Hello Icefire
Post by: redsniper on May 21, 2009, 12:07:58 am
They always come back.... :D
Title: Re: Hello Icefire
Post by: Fury on May 21, 2009, 12:22:56 am
I'm the lazy one on the team. 
If you were a hot woman, you'd be worth keeping around. But alas... :p

Welcome back PSYCHO.
Title: Re: Hello Icefire
Post by: Raven2001 on May 21, 2009, 02:33:03 pm
Oh I also did a model in game of the Bastion 2 Dreadnought destroyer and a Nike class Corvett and a few things with retextures
 :D lol Yea Ive been gone for awhile....I was thinking of getting back into Freespace since I bought LW9 ?......... I also have a huge concept art set for FS ...Ive been out of it for sometime.................. I would like to see anything you may have done from my concept? ;7

I modelled a ship you called Alecto, as well as a destroyer you drew for me a looong time ago. They're both on my model dump :P
Title: Re: Hello Icefire
Post by: Fineus on May 21, 2009, 05:20:06 pm
They always come back.... :D

He's not wrong...
Title: Re: Hello Icefire
Post by: IceFire on May 21, 2009, 05:22:13 pm
I'm the lazy one on the team. 
If you were a hot woman, you'd be worth keeping around. But alas... :p

Welcome back PSYCHO.
Can't win em all :)
Title: Re: Hello Icefire
Post by: General Battuta on May 21, 2009, 05:34:46 pm
Wow. Now if only Shrike would make an appearance.
Title: Re: Hello Icefire
Post by: BlackDove on May 21, 2009, 05:49:59 pm
I already got the #1 absentee to come back, so it's hard to top that.

But it's always nice to see old people return.
Title: Re: Hello Icefire
Post by: Goober5000 on May 21, 2009, 08:33:27 pm
I already got the #1 absentee to come back, so it's hard to top that.
And yet almost nobody knows about it. :(
Title: Re: Hello Icefire
Post by: Fineus on May 22, 2009, 03:18:09 am
Group hug and therapy time? :p
Title: Re: Hello Icefire
Post by: BlackDove on May 22, 2009, 06:00:49 am
I already got the #1 absentee to come back, so it's hard to top that.
And yet almost nobody knows about it. :(

Is this the part where I do my "MUA HA HA HA HA" bit?

Seriously though, I was just glad he's alive and well.
Title: Re: Hello Icefire
Post by: Raven2001 on May 22, 2009, 08:43:35 am
And yet almost nobody knows about it. :(

His choice, not ours. Besides you gotta understand our breed:

We're no lookin for fame glory. All we want is hawt gals and big tits :D
Title: Re: Hello Icefire
Post by: General Battuta on May 22, 2009, 08:44:13 am
Okay, okay, who is it? Setekh?
Title: Re: Hello Icefire
Post by: Snail on May 22, 2009, 01:34:40 pm
Old people...
Title: Re: Hello Icefire
Post by: BlackDove on May 22, 2009, 03:36:16 pm
Setekh? Who cares about Steak? He went to church, got married, had his happy ending and forgot about us. We got closure on that one.
Title: Re: Hello Icefire
Post by: General Battuta on May 22, 2009, 04:02:40 pm
Hrm. Okay. Maeg made an appearance and I already mentioned Shrike. Who else is there?
Title: Re: Hello Icefire
Post by: Snail on May 22, 2009, 04:03:29 pm
Taristin?
Title: Re: Hello Icefire
Post by: tinfoil on May 22, 2009, 05:04:13 pm
Icey Jones?
Title: Re: Hello Icefire
Post by: redsniper on May 22, 2009, 08:03:28 pm
aldo :(
Title: Re: Hello Icefire
Post by: BlackDove on May 22, 2009, 08:23:25 pm
It's not up to us to say. Nor is it a guessing game (you're way off tho, since most of you are too new to even have known him).

At any rate, this is Psycho's thread, and if it ceases to be such it'll be a locked thread. Let's keep it about that.
Title: Re: Hello Icefire
Post by: Rodo on May 22, 2009, 08:31:13 pm
so psycho is back... who's got a badge for him!

will he be joining any projects?

not that he needs to be joining a project , just curious  :nervous:
Title: Re: Hello Icefire
Post by: colecampbell666 on May 22, 2009, 09:24:41 pm
It's not up to us to say. Nor is it a guessing game (you're way off tho, since most of you are too new to even have known him).

At any rate, this is Psycho's thread, and if it ceases to be such it'll be a locked thread. Let's keep it about that.
Fantomeye? CobaltStarr? Plasma? Dark?
Title: Re: Hello Icefire
Post by: BlackDove on May 23, 2009, 06:25:31 am
Nor is it a guessing game

I won't repeat this again.
Title: Re: Hello Icefire
Post by: Sandwich on May 23, 2009, 06:31:24 am
Psycho, dude! Welcome back, man! How's life treating you?

I was actually trying to get a-hold of you recently regarding the good ol' GTVDn Bastion... ;) Did you get anything from me? People are wanting to resurrect and release DoE. :p
Title: Re: Hello Icefire
Post by: Snail on May 23, 2009, 07:26:09 am
Someone has to write a history book of FreeSpace fandom.
Title: Re: Hello Icefire
Post by: IceFire on May 23, 2009, 11:50:33 am
It'd have to be a collaborative effort...so many people, websites, campaigns, mods, and the like.  More than I can remember.
Title: Re: Hello Icefire
Post by: PSYCHO on May 23, 2009, 03:52:07 pm
 Wow what a response lol Hey Sandwich good to see you still hanging around.. :) Some of you all I remember and others are new, Thanks for the Warm Welcome.... :).
About the Bastion Project if there are anycopies of it I think you guys should use what you can...
   I lost my PC when my house got robbed and all my FS stuff is gone  :mad:...Any way since then I have bought LW9 and Iam trying to get a better Bastion Model done plus a whole array of ship just for FreeSpace. Iam planning to do a HighRes Version of all my concept ships( Terrain, Vasudan and Shiven ) I would like to get my set of FS short films done. Sorry I have no release dates yet.. :(
        Thanks again Psycho
Title: Re: Hello Icefire
Post by: Titan on May 23, 2009, 07:05:12 pm
Wow what a response lol Hey Sandwich good to see you still hanging around.. :) Some of you all I remember and others are new, Thanks for the Warm Welcome.... :).
About the Bastion Project if there are anycopies of it I think you guys should use what you can...
   I lost my PC when my house got robbed and all my FS stuff is gone  :mad:...Any way since then I have bought LW9 and Iam trying to get a better Bastion Model done plus a whole array of ship just for FreeSpace. Iam planning to do a HighRes Version of all my concept ships( Terrain, Vasudan and Shiven ) I would like to get my set of FS short films done. Sorry I have no release dates yet.. :(
        Thanks again Psycho


Robbed?  :eek2:

Would someone (not me) be so kind as to email him the retail files?
Title: Re: Hello Icefire
Post by: colecampbell666 on May 23, 2009, 07:33:18 pm
Email? I assume his discs are there.
Title: Re: Hello Icefire
Post by: Black Sheep on May 24, 2009, 12:20:42 pm
Psycho!?!? OMG, he's back! :D
Title: Re: Hello Icefire
Post by: Gloriano on May 25, 2009, 01:31:58 am
Psycho!?!? OMG, he's back! :D

Holy **** it's Black sheep  :jaw:
Title: Re: Hello Icefire
Post by: Col. Fishguts on May 25, 2009, 07:11:13 am
Psycho!?!? OMG, he's back! :D

Holy **** it's Black sheep  :jaw:

Holy **** it's Glorioano :jaw:

Seriously, this thread feels like HLP from 5 years ago.

Also, welcome back PSYCHO.
Title: Re: Hello Icefire
Post by: General Battuta on May 25, 2009, 10:00:58 am
This is awesome. It's good to see you guys.
Title: Re: Hello Icefire
Post by: redsniper on May 25, 2009, 10:12:40 pm
Seriously, this thread feels like HLP from 5 years ago.
Title: Re: Hello Icefire
Post by: Fineus on May 26, 2009, 04:10:34 am
I find it kinda funny that all this is happening hidden away in a random thread in the BWO section of the site. It all feels very "behind closed doors". I do like it though, nice to see people coming back and hell it's nice to be back myself!
Title: Re: Hello Icefire
Post by: Raven2001 on May 26, 2009, 08:01:37 am
Welcome back you too!! :)

Geez did every old-timer have a biological clock or something to tell them to come back all at once?! :D
Title: Re: Hello Icefire
Post by: Mongoose on May 26, 2009, 05:05:56 pm
Geez did every old-timer have a biological clock or something to tell them to come back all at once?! :D
Must be some sort of subconscious herd mentality. :p

I think half of you old-timers went inactive even before I started luring here, but welcome back anyway. :)
Title: Re: Hello Icefire
Post by: BlackDove on May 26, 2009, 05:38:07 pm
It's the pre-summer extravaganza.
Title: Re: Hello Icefire
Post by: Snail on May 26, 2009, 06:44:31 pm
Waiting for the Dark.
Title: Re: Hello Icefire
Post by: redsniper on May 28, 2009, 04:53:58 pm
That'll be the day... ;)
Title: Re: Hello Icefire
Post by: Goober5000 on May 28, 2009, 06:21:05 pm
 :warp:
Title: Re: Hello Icefire
Post by: colecampbell666 on May 28, 2009, 09:12:25 pm
Goob's hiding something.
Title: Re: Hello Icefire
Post by: Droid803 on May 28, 2009, 09:22:13 pm
Or maybe he's just messing with us...
Title: Re: Hello Icefire
Post by: Mobius on May 29, 2009, 05:37:24 pm
If you're interested, I have Carl (yes, the Shivan) on my MSN list. That guy worries me, though, because he recently came out with a very, very, very gay avatar. :ick:

By the way, I'm happy to see Psycho back! :) I sure wasn't here back when he used to be active, but I know it indirectly thanks to his Bastion model (whose upgrade will be put to a very good use ;))...
Title: Re: Hello Icefire
Post by: Snail on May 30, 2009, 03:49:49 am
Of course, I've received word from someone who claims that Dark did return...
Title: Re: Hello Icefire
Post by: BlackDove on May 30, 2009, 10:21:23 am
That's very nice to know, thank you for that piece of information.
Title: Re: Hello Icefire
Post by: Getter Robo G on June 02, 2009, 02:20:53 pm
What a sec.... United Space's Bastion concept???

 :eek2: You...Must... make...  :shaking:

And Thunders back... Again...  ;)
(Wait, didn't that movie have a sequel? They "still" come back?)
Title: Re: Hello Icefire
Post by: Axem on June 05, 2009, 07:33:55 pm
Oh dear, its Nike's Daddy. :shaking: Please don't hurt me. I swear I didn't touch her (http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/topic,58188.0.html), she came onto me! I was drunk, I didn't know better. But nothing happened! At all. Ever. Yes. :nervous:

I'm innocent...!
Title: Re: Hello Icefire
Post by: Turnsky on June 23, 2009, 01:49:01 am
*whoo-kssssh*

Still waiting for good reason to take up the flightstick again...  :p


*whoo-kssssh*
Title: Re: Hello Icefire
Post by: BlackDove on June 28, 2009, 11:37:49 am
And here is where you look for that reason? :p
Title: Re: Hello Icefire
Post by: Aardwolf on July 04, 2009, 07:18:02 am
Ragingloli?
Title: Re: Hello Icefire
Post by: Turnsky on July 05, 2009, 09:32:16 am
And here is where you look for that reason? :p

chronic laziness prohibits me looking elsewhere.  :p
Title: Re: Hello Icefire
Post by: BlackDove on July 05, 2009, 11:43:32 am
I tell you it's like an Escher painting based on Schrödinger's theories. :p
Title: Re: Hello Icefire
Post by: Crazy_Ivan80 on November 11, 2009, 07:37:40 am
yes, yes, I know the topic has been inactive for a while but still...

reading this one reminded me of the days when HLP was young. Good memories in all.

:)
Title: Re: Hello Icefire
Post by: SGT_R22eR on March 22, 2010, 12:05:11 pm
Now we almost only need Kazan and it will be a grand reunion.
Title: Re: Hello Icefire
Post by: High Max on March 22, 2010, 10:12:53 pm
*_*
Title: Re: Hello Icefire
Post by: BlackDove on March 23, 2010, 02:27:36 pm
There's not a lot going on here currently anyway.

I blame Raven.

Seriously though, I'm hoping you'll see some news soon.

On another note, I do wonder what Kazan has been doing ever since he got married.
Title: Re: Hello Icefire
Post by: Goober5000 on March 23, 2010, 04:15:34 pm
Use your imagination?

Kazan has actually posted on the forum in the past week.
Title: Re: Hello Icefire
Post by: General Battuta on March 23, 2010, 10:17:38 pm
I still dream about BWO on a nightly basis, but rather than give in to fanboy despair I've elected to believe that Raven is gradually moving those last HTL assets towards completion.
Title: Re: Hello Icefire
Post by: Mongoose on March 23, 2010, 11:11:23 pm
*sings* Get outta my dreams!  And into my RAM!
Title: Re: Hello Icefire
Post by: High Max on April 13, 2010, 11:57:36 pm
*_*
Title: Re: Hello Icefire
Post by: General Battuta on April 14, 2010, 12:19:14 am
I still dream about BWO on a nightly basis, but rather than give in to fanboy despair I've elected to believe that Raven is gradually moving those last HTL assets towards completion.

Really? I never even think about BWO anymore. Maybe once in a great while, but not much at all. That's what happens when projects take forever to be released (fail to deliver) and fans get bored and move on. If anything, I think more about campaigns that are actually released in the missions and campaign sub-forum, like ASW, FoW, and Storm Front. Also BP.

You're silly.
Title: Re: Hello Icefire
Post by: High Max on April 14, 2010, 12:36:54 am
*_*
Title: Re: Hello Icefire
Post by: General Battuta on April 14, 2010, 12:51:00 am
BWO is essentially done. They're waiting on high-poly ship models to be complete.
Title: Re: Hello Icefire
Post by: Fury on April 14, 2010, 01:00:07 am
Which if you ask me, is foolish. If you can provide higher quality assets as simple drop-in replacements that require no alterations to missions, then you should release the campaign with lower quality assets and release higher quality ones in an update later.
Title: Re: Hello Icefire
Post by: High Max on April 14, 2010, 01:18:06 am
*_*
Title: Re: Hello Icefire
Post by: General Battuta on April 14, 2010, 01:22:05 am
Foolish or not, it's not our job to dictate BWO development policy.
Title: Re: Hello Icefire
Post by: Fury on April 14, 2010, 01:28:01 am
No it is not, but public opinion should have some weight as long as it is reasonable.
Title: Re: Hello Icefire
Post by: Mongoose on April 14, 2010, 02:35:07 am
I think there is another way of looking at things, though.  As the old adage goes, "You only get one chance to make a first impression."  While it's true that BWO could just about release today with the assets they have, leaving features like high-poly models out of the initial release will mean that they don't get to be part of everyone's first-time experience.  You can't force yourself to forget everything and repeat your first playthrough, and I can appreciate the BWO team's desire to have every single aspect of that experience be as high-quality as it possibly can.
Title: Re: Hello Icefire
Post by: Raven2001 on April 14, 2010, 04:45:27 am
I think there is another way of looking at things, though.  As the old adage goes, "You only get one chance to make a first impression."  While it's true that BWO could just about release today with the assets they have, leaving features like high-poly models out of the initial release will mean that they don't get to be part of everyone's first-time experience.  You can't force yourself to forget everything and repeat your first playthrough, and I can appreciate the BWO team's desire to have every single aspect of that experience be as high-quality as it possibly can.

We agree, if you haven't figured already :D
Title: Re: Hello Icefire
Post by: High Max on April 14, 2010, 05:02:30 am
*_*
Title: Re: Hello Icefire
Post by: Snail on April 14, 2010, 05:53:58 am
This very old "get everything done, then release" idea has been the basic design philosophy of BlackWater for god knows how long. It's not going to change.
Title: Re: Hello Icefire
Post by: General Battuta on April 14, 2010, 08:03:19 am
This very old "get everything done, then release" idea has been the basic design philosophy of BlackWater for god knows how long. It's not going to change.

Quite.

Let's just trust them to get it done.
Title: Re: Hello Icefire
Post by: Raven2001 on April 14, 2010, 09:03:04 am
But it's unrealistic. You can never keep up with the latest, especially when you have lives that keep you busy. Also, whether it is the greatest is nothing but a perception. Trying to have the greatest in every area will only lead to feature creep and an endless cycle of trying to keep up with the latest graphics, then by the time you do so, something better comes along, then you impliment that, but then something better has once again come along, over and over again.

You misunderstand. We aren't feature creeping. The features we are taking advantage from are several years old already (HTL). For instance, certain ships have been modeled years ago, already in the HTL era of things. They definetly aren't as good technically as the newer ones, but they are locked.
Its not like we are watching for features and going "omgz we gotta haf dat!".

However, reason its taking so long is because lately (eg. for 2 years +/-), I'm the only one taking care of the models and UV's, and textures. However, I'm bogged down in a job that requires more than 8 daily hours many times+"house keeping" duties, and so on. That doesn't leave many *monthly* hours to work as you understand.

We have said it in the past, and I'll say it again: we need good modelers\UVe'rs and texturers. We havent made a formal request for these due to some organizational issues, but the sooner we hear some interest from people in helping out, the sooner things get done.
You can take a look at the 4 modelers  interview to get an idea of the level of work we seek. And even if you can't be up to that, I can say surely that someone who could take care of the LOD's would definetly be very helpfull as well (and doesn't need to be as good, technically)

Even if you can't do it yourself, spread the word to your friends :P

I can't convert, but Blowfish has been taking care of that when needed so far.
Title: Re: Hello Icefire
Post by: Colonol Dekker on April 14, 2010, 09:16:35 am
Release what you want, when you want. Simple :yes:



I'm still waiting for my cruiser sized bomber.... but i can wait a bit more i suppose. :D
Title: Re: Hello Icefire
Post by: General Battuta on April 14, 2010, 09:19:21 am
I'll make a concerted effort to point new modelers your way.
Title: Re: Hello Icefire
Post by: High Max on April 14, 2010, 01:31:53 pm
*_*
Title: Re: Hello Icefire
Post by: Kosh on April 16, 2010, 12:10:47 am
I think there is another way of looking at things, though.  As the old adage goes, "You only get one chance to make a first impression."  While it's true that BWO could just about release today with the assets they have, leaving features like high-poly models out of the initial release will mean that they don't get to be part of everyone's first-time experience.  You can't force yourself to forget everything and repeat your first playthrough, and I can appreciate the BWO team's desire to have every single aspect of that experience be as high-quality as it possibly can.

We agree, if you haven't figured already :D


I understand that position but for gosh sakes we've been waiting for 10 YEARS already. Before 3DRealms went under we used to make jokes about which would be released first, BWO or Duke Nukem Forever.
Title: Re: Hello Icefire
Post by: Mongoose on April 16, 2010, 01:16:29 am
At least the question's answered for good now. :p
Title: Re: Hello Icefire
Post by: High Max on April 16, 2010, 02:27:10 am
*_*
Title: Re: Hello Icefire
Post by: Colonol Dekker on April 16, 2010, 03:26:55 am
If i've only got a year and a half left (again) i'm going to revert to type.
 
 
 On topic, i'm on the train. The late train. The train that's going to get me to work late.
 
 
My jobs ****e. :p
Title: Re: Hello Icefire
Post by: Mongoose on April 16, 2010, 04:53:18 pm
It is ridiculous to wait 10 years. Frankly, it has caused me to lose interest and focus on active campaigns, like I said already. Ones that don't fail to deliver, like ASW, BP, FoW, Storm Front, etc. Looks like I was right when I said that I'm sure I'm not alone in my feeling. Many people who were waiting for BWO have probably either left the community by now or simply don't care about it anymore. Eventually almost everyone will just move on. then all that work would have amounted to nothing. At least release it before 2012 just to be safe incase it really is the end :D We never know for sure. :P
Why would one need to have continuous active interest in the campaign in the first place?  I'm certainly very interested in playing it myself, but that doesn't mean I have to think about it on a daily, or even monthly, basis.  When people post in here, I'll read them.  When the team provides an update, I'll read that too.  And when the campaign finally does get released, I'll eagerly play it.  I don't think there's much else required beyond that.
Title: Re: Hello Icefire
Post by: High Max on April 16, 2010, 05:04:16 pm
*_*
Title: Re: Hello Icefire
Post by: DREDHAWK on April 25, 2010, 06:51:56 pm
im still interested in BWO even thow it been 10 years or so.  i check back ever few month just see whats going on.  around Hard-light.  anyways it will be done when its done if ever LOL