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Title: Father beats his seven year old son to death
Post by: StarSlayer on June 24, 2009, 11:31:51 pm
Cases like this make me wish for cruel and unusual capital punishment...

http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2009/06/25/life_support_for_boy_in_fathers_day_beating_expected_to_be_removed/?page=1 (http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2009/06/25/life_support_for_boy_in_fathers_day_beating_expected_to_be_removed/?page=1)
Title: Re: Father beats his seven year old son to death
Post by: Falcon on June 25, 2009, 02:58:47 am
Wow
Title: Re: Father beats his seven year old son to death
Post by: Dilmah G on June 25, 2009, 04:31:52 am
Argh, that pisses me off. His dad should be shot. *Rages*
Title: Re: Father beats his seven year old son to death
Post by: Bobboau on June 25, 2009, 04:33:17 am
aww and on fathers day, perfect <3
I just want to know what triggered it, I hope it was something along the lines of him thinking he deserved a better father's day gift than the kid could provide, then this case would be absolutely flawless.
Title: Re: Father beats his seven year old son to death
Post by: Liberator on June 25, 2009, 05:20:04 am
100 years ago this guy wouldn't have seen the inside of the jailhouse on the day of the offense and the cops probably would have stood by and done nothing.

10 gets you 20 this guy gets 50-Life and time served for good behavior.

Having seen where this happened, I used to live in Eufala, so yeah I can guarantee he'd be dead already.
Title: Re: Father beats his seven year old son to death
Post by: Mefustae on June 25, 2009, 09:12:20 am
Quote from: News article
WORCESTER - Seven-year-old Nathaniel Turner had attended church nearly every Sunday in a rural Alabama city where he lived with the grandmother he called Mama.
**** it. I'm not reading any more.

I want facts, not tear-jerking.
Title: Re: Father beats his seven year old son to death
Post by: StarSlayer on June 25, 2009, 09:24:10 am
He brutalized his son for a month culminating with lining the kid's head up against a wall and punching it so hard he dented the wall.
Title: Re: Father beats his seven year old son to death
Post by: General Battuta on June 25, 2009, 10:07:37 am
100 years ago this guy wouldn't have seen the inside of the jailhouse on the day of the offense and the cops probably would have stood by and done nothing.

10 gets you 20 this guy gets 50-Life and time served for good behavior.

Having seen where this happened, I used to live in Eufala, so yeah I can guarantee he'd be dead already.

It's lucky we're a bit less Hammurabic these days. Signs of human progress.

This man deserves to spend the rest of his life in jail. And he's going to have to live with what he did. Unless he's a psychopath (very possible) that'll probably destroy him.
Title: Re: Father beats his seven year old son to death
Post by: Liberator on June 25, 2009, 07:50:54 pm
It's not Hammurabic, bastard woulda been shot dead or beaten to death by an angry mob.

Also, there are some types of killers who deserve life long imprisonment, others deserve nothing less than death.  This man deserves the most brutal, painful death we can arrange.
Title: Re: Father beats his seven year old son to death
Post by: colecampbell666 on June 25, 2009, 08:29:03 pm
Or life. If he dies it's over with (ignoring improbable afterlives, but let's not get into that), while if he lives he has to suffer for years.
Title: Re: Father beats his seven year old son to death
Post by: General Battuta on June 25, 2009, 08:30:08 pm
Oh, that's right, I forgot. The only way to deal with the immoral is to be equally immoral.

Let's just lock him up instead of turning into barbarians, okay? I'm glad I don't live in a country run by Liberators, or I'd feel very dirty.
Title: Re: Father beats his seven year old son to death
Post by: Flipside on June 25, 2009, 08:42:14 pm
It's easy to get emotional about a 7-year old child, we had a similar case, the 'Baby P' case in the UK, and things got very emotional and vigilante-esque.

Jail will do, it's better to have to live with the crime than die for it, in my opinion.
Title: Re: Father beats his seven year old son to death
Post by: iamzack on June 25, 2009, 08:45:07 pm
I wish we could deny protection to criminals in prison, like child rapists and murderers. Why can't we just turn a blind eye to some good ole fashioned prison rape and beatings (let's see how YOU like it, freak)? Of course, stop short of killing him, but why shouldn't he get a taste of what he's done, eh?
Title: Re: Father beats his seven year old son to death
Post by: Liberator on June 25, 2009, 09:04:53 pm
Oh, that's right, I forgot. The only way to deal with the immoral is to be equally immoral.

Let's just lock him up instead of turning into barbarians, okay? I'm glad I don't live in a country run by Liberators, or I'd feel very dirty.

No, what's immoral is putting this guy on the government nipple for 40k a year for the rest of his miserable life.  Caged or not, this particular rabid animal needs to be put down.
Title: Re: Father beats his seven year old son to death
Post by: iamzack on June 25, 2009, 09:19:29 pm
Oh, that's right, I forgot. The only way to deal with the immoral is to be equally immoral.

Let's just lock him up instead of turning into barbarians, okay? I'm glad I don't live in a country run by Liberators, or I'd feel very dirty.

No, what's immoral is putting this guy on the government nipple for 40k a year for the rest of his miserable life.  Caged or not, this particular rabid animal needs to be put down.

Too bad prisons can't just be metal crates stacked on top of each other where we let violent offenders starve to death in the dark. We're too busy imprisoning people for putting things into their bodies the government has decided it's not okay to.
Title: Re: Father beats his seven year old son to death
Post by: General Battuta on June 25, 2009, 10:43:13 pm
Oh, that's right, I forgot. The only way to deal with the immoral is to be equally immoral.

Let's just lock him up instead of turning into barbarians, okay? I'm glad I don't live in a country run by Liberators, or I'd feel very dirty.

No, what's immoral is putting this guy on the government nipple for 40k a year for the rest of his miserable life.  Caged or not, this particular rabid animal needs to be put down.

It must be easy to just invoke dispositional conclusions and then ride off into the sunset, mustn't it? In a way I envy you. If only we could all so easily turn people into animals, we'd be less burdened.
Title: Re: Father beats his seven year old son to death
Post by: Liberator on June 25, 2009, 10:46:56 pm
I didn't turn him into an animal, he did that himself when he brutallized his son and murdered him with his bare hands.
Title: Re: Father beats his seven year old son to death
Post by: colecampbell666 on June 25, 2009, 10:48:40 pm
There is something wrong though if we have to support prisoners.

What about planet Australia?
Title: Re: Father beats his seven year old son to death
Post by: General Battuta on June 25, 2009, 10:48:49 pm
At some point people will have to realize that understanding why someone does something is not the same as forgiving it.

Make an effort to untangle the man's motivations, understand what happened, forgive him like a good Christian, and then act to prevent such atrocities in the future.

That'd be a better course of action than sinking to his level.

The sad truth is that both you and I (and anyone else) would likely commit similar atrocities if stressed the right way. We all have our breaking points.
Title: Re: Father beats his seven year old son to death
Post by: colecampbell666 on June 25, 2009, 11:06:03 pm
That's a dream in the current world, it'll take a lot of manpower and willpower to realize that goal.
Title: Re: Father beats his seven year old son to death
Post by: Liberator on June 25, 2009, 11:28:39 pm
I'll forgive him, then light him on fire and throw him in a pit.(OK, maybe not  :ick: )

Everyone is so gods damned concerned for prisoner rights and all that jazz.  What about the rights of the victim?

My real question is why are prisons almost like resorts?
Title: Re: Father beats his seven year old son to death
Post by: iamzack on June 26, 2009, 12:27:06 am
I'll forgive him, then light him on fire and throw him in a pit.(OK, maybe not  :ick: )

Everyone is so gods damned concerned for prisoner rights and all that jazz.  What about the rights of the victim?

My real question is why are prisons almost like resorts?

Because a large percentage of prisoners did not commit a real crime.
Title: Re: Father beats his seven year old son to death
Post by: Bobboau on June 26, 2009, 02:08:45 am
At some point people will have to realize that understanding why someone does something is not the same as forgiving it.

Make an effort to untangle the man's motivations, understand what happened, lynch him, and then act to prevent such atrocities in the future.

I like my version better
Title: Re: Father beats his seven year old son to death
Post by: Dilmah G on June 26, 2009, 03:53:20 am
Oh, that's right, I forgot. The only way to deal with the immoral is to be equally immoral.
Pretty much.
Title: Re: Father beats his seven year old son to death
Post by: zookeeper on June 26, 2009, 04:15:49 am
I wish we could deny protection to criminals in prison, like child rapists and murderers. Why can't we just turn a blind eye to some good ole fashioned prison rape and beatings (let's see how YOU like it, freak)? Of course, stop short of killing him, but why shouldn't he get a taste of what he's done, eh?
Because it's wrong, duh.

I thought that's why everyone gets so riled up about cases like this in the first place, no?
Title: Re: Father beats his seven year old son to death
Post by: Kosh on June 26, 2009, 05:30:17 am
I'll forgive him, then light him on fire and throw him in a pit.(OK, maybe not  :ick: )

Everyone is so gods damned concerned for prisoner rights and all that jazz.  What about the rights of the victim?

My real question is why are prisons almost like resorts?

American prisons are full of dangerous gangs, I would hardly consider that to be like disneyland.
Title: Re: Father beats his seven year old son to death
Post by: Mefustae on June 26, 2009, 05:47:27 am
I'll forgive him, then light him on fire and throw him in a pit.(OK, maybe not  :ick: )

Everyone is so gods damned concerned for prisoner rights and all that jazz.  What about the rights of the victim?

My real question is why are prisons almost like resorts?
Let's look at the brochure, shall we?

Oh, back massages with toothbrush shanks. I've got this wicked knot back there that should sort out. Lots of sun and sand in the concrete prison yard. I'll have a tan in no time! Great companionship from fellow guests. Sure, they're neo-nazis, skinheads, and a dozen other assorted gangs, but hey; company's company.

****! This **** sounds awesome! I'm gonna go out and find me someone to shoot. BRB.
Title: Re: Father beats his seven year old son to death
Post by: Rodo on June 26, 2009, 06:08:18 am
Difficult to understand how can you come so angry at a boy to actually do that kind of damage.

Let's just hope it doesn't happen again any time soon.

Title: Re: Father beats his seven year old son to death
Post by: TrashMan on June 26, 2009, 06:55:39 am
It must be easy to just invoke dispositional conclusions and then ride off into the sunset, mustn't it? In a way I envy you. If only we could all so easily turn people into animals, we'd be less burdened.

HEY! I object! Don't offend the poor animals!
Title: Re: Father beats his seven year old son to death
Post by: Dilmah G on June 26, 2009, 07:46:53 am
Difficult to understand how can you come so angry at a boy to actually do that kind of damage.

Let's just hope it doesn't happen again any time soon.



I've seen kids do that kind of damage to other kids, but really, as a parent I too have no idea how you can let that kind of anger out on your own offspring.
Title: Re: Father beats his seven year old son to death
Post by: General Battuta on June 26, 2009, 09:34:18 am
It must be easy to just invoke dispositional conclusions and then ride off into the sunset, mustn't it? In a way I envy you. If only we could all so easily turn people into animals, we'd be less burdened.

HEY! I object! Don't offend the poor animals!

All right, all right. Non-human animals, as they say in scientific circles.
Title: Re: Father beats his seven year old son to death
Post by: Nuke on June 26, 2009, 12:00:05 pm
I'll forgive him, then light him on fire and throw him in a pit.(OK, maybe not  :ick: )

Everyone is so gods damned concerned for prisoner rights and all that jazz.  What about the rights of the victim?

My real question is why are prisons almost like resorts?

well i wouldnt want to go to jail in the state of arizona, thats for sure. i dont live there anymore so ive no need to worry about breaking the law, besides this town only has 2 cop cars anyway.