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Best movie ever.
good jokes. good action.
last 2 hours were pure shooting.
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Last two hours. As in, it was significantly longer than that?
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Indeed. Saw it on day one, was great. More of the action from Transformers 1 (i.e. giant robots fighting, military equipment blowing up/blowing stuff up etc.) and loads more shots of Megan Fox either looking sexy (straddling the bike, getting changed outside the garage etc.) or running in slow motion. Awesome :D These guys have really figured out what their core audience is looking for.
As for the movie itself, it felt a lot more like an episode of the old cartoon than the first movie did - the decepticons were acting like their older counterparts (especially starscream and megatron). The jokes were funny, for the most part, although the twins could have been handled better. The whole "Hatchlings" substory seemed a little contrived and silly, TBH, but it was only present for a few seconds altogether, so I can ignore it.
So yeah, possibly not the greatest movie ever, but a worthy sequel to number one.
[EDIT]Probably around 2.5, give or take?
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Just got back--it could have been a lot better, with a script rewrite. Yes the FX were spectacular, and it was great to see the Constructicons in action, but there was too much stuff going on and too many loose ends and plot contrivances for my liking.
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I liked old man robot with the cane. He was effing hilarious. I would watch a transformers movie just about him.
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I liked old man robot with the cane. He was effing hilarious. I would watch a transformers movie just about him.
Made much better that he happened to be a frakking SR-71
I wouldn't say best movie ever, and being drunk made the action somewhat hard to follow, but it was entertaining.
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I liked it. Jetfire was great, walking stick and all and they reversed the error they made in the first movie and turned Prime into the badass he's always meant to have been. I was never impressed by them having Megatron beat him in a 1 on 1 fight in the first movie.
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Up front I will say that I like the movie. I really like it,
Optimus beats Megs and company so hard during the first battle they're still wearing the scars during round two several days later.
I have a spoiler for anyone brave enough to watch it btw:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRS90V8BQGo
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the decepticons were acting like their older counterparts (especially starscream and megatron).
To be fair the Decepticons in the first one didn't really have enough screentime to act like it, especially Megatron.
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Yeah but you can only blame the script for that. :p
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To be fair...there was a script?
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Indeed an awesome movie, a lot of action, humor, a lot more autobots, and explosions.
Favorite and scariest part of the movie was the Decepticon *****. I was all like holy **** when I saw that huge tail like thing coming out of her. Eugh... still creeps me out.
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I find it amazing that you just about can't find a positive review at all
in the media, but the average joe thinks it's a pretty good movie for what it is.
I'm beginning to think there's either a anti TF campaign going on, or editroials
need to find their inner child again.
You don't go to a TF movie expecting Shaksepere, just like you wouldn't go to a
WWF match expecting to see the ballet. We came to see Peter Cullen toss one liners
and large metal things blow stuff up.
Wonder if there's any reviews from the deep south....
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I like how they just had to set the battle in some Arab country, and how the Jordanian helicopters got served in 3 seconds. :D
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The review writers can't get past the fact they were in task overload during the early battle scenes.
Me, I can't get past the fact they didn't let us see what happens when you hit a Decepticon with a Mark 48 ADCAP, and GODDAMMIT THEY BLEW THE MLRS, THEY BLEW IT ALL TO HELL.
I WANTED THE STEEL RAIN YOU BASTARDS.
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If you want to read any reviews about Transformers 2 I suggest reading the following link (it has been passed around a number of my friends): http://io9.com/5301898/michael-bay-finally-made-an-art-movie?skyline=true&s=x
In short my feelings are that this movie was a fantastic explosion fest ...a work of art. I could have done without a few of the parts in the movie but whatever. I was entertained! Plus it had a gigantic list of jets, tanks, ships, and so forth all kicking ass :)
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That movie was racist, misogynistic, childish - nay, cretinish - horribly written, poorly acted, filled with nonsensical and unnecessarily convoluted plot twists conveyed by ham-handed and incoherent expository sequences, and totally ****ing awesome.
I saw it in IMAX. So worth it.
The review writers can't get past the fact they were in task overload during the early battle scenes.
Me, I can't get past the fact they didn't let us see what happens when you hit a Decepticon with a Mark 48 ADCAP, and GODDAMMIT THEY BLEW THE MLRS, THEY BLEW IT ALL TO HELL.
I WANTED THE STEEL RAIN YOU BASTARDS.
I was impressed by the attention to detail, though. The Vipers popping flares before their attack runs, and the credit they gave to the Decepticon's armor. They weren't just falling over Stormtrooper-style when hit with an APFSDS or something like that.
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Ice that had to be one of the best movie reviews I've read....
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I was impressed by the attention to detail, though. The Vipers popping flares before their attack runs, and the credit they gave to the Decepticon's armor. They weren't just falling over Stormtrooper-style when hit with an APFSDS or something like that.
No, it took several hits before they fell over. :P
One of the things I like about this interpretation of the franchise is that we can actually fight them and win.
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It's kind of a shame the movie was intended for a younger audience. If they'd been willing to show the wounded, Black Hawk Down-style, we could've had a few really intense, almost Battletech-esque war scenes. As it was it felt just a bit too sterile, since the most common form of casualty was 'tossed about, implying death'.
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It's kind of a shame the movie was intended for a younger audience. If they'd been willing to show the wounded, Black Hawk Down-style, we could've had a few really intense, almost Battletech-esque war scenes. As it was it felt just a bit too sterile, since the most common form of casualty was 'tossed about, implying death'.
What about when Optimus Prime (?) ripped that other robot's face in half?
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For better or worse, we don't take damage to machines as viscerally as damage to meatbags.
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To be fair...there was a script?
Well you do have a point there!!!
Michael Bay director: Explosion, fight, fight, fight, explosion, plot line, explostion, action, fight, kiss scene, plot, explosion, explosion, explosion
The man is obsessed with stuff going Ka-Boom
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A bit too much comic relief in places IMO.
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To be fair...there was a script?
The man is obsessed with stuff going Ka-Boom
For this type of film, is that necessarily a bad thing?
Seen it the day it came out. Took my nephew to see it on friday(was looking for an excuse to see it again :D) and there was a ****ing power cut half way through! :mad: :mad: :mad:
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there was a ****ing power cut half way through! :mad: :mad: :mad:
It was the US government! It's a conspiracy! We know the truth!
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A bit too much comic relief in places IMO.
Micheal Bay is incapable of directing any scene with comedy in it, it seems. Somebody else must have been running the first movie, though. This one deteriorated badly.
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It wasn't that bad. Good action sequences. And that's all I went to see.
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That's all anyone watching Transformers goes to see.
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Just saw it at IMAX. The best way I could put it was the film is so freaking awesome that all its failings are just swamped in eyegasm. All the parts of my brain that should have been wondering "wtf is going with this story?!" where shut down as all synapses and mental power was devoted to the parts of my brain responsible for interpretting outside stimuli were assaulted by a pure visual and auditory blitzkrieg. Even an hour later as I start to wonder about all the plot holes and other issues the cave man side of my brain konks me brutally over the head screaming "HOW AWESOME WAS THE FIGHT IN THE FOREST!?"
The only thing I wish is they kept the old curmudgeon SR-71 around, though to be honest with the inconsistancy of death in this film, I probably don't have to worry about it much.
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So, based on the comments, this film could be considered a personification (er... movie-ification?) of The Rule of Cool (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/RuleOfCool)
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A bit too much comic relief in places IMO.
You would think so.... :drevil:
Micheal Bay is incapable of directing any scene with comedy in it, it seems. Somebody else must have been running the first movie, though. This one deteriorated badly.
Well, As the only Irishman here (as far as i know)(In the free Republic) i thought the line about how "you get to the end of the rainbow, and guess what!! the leprechauns boobytrapped it!!" was very funny :D :D :D
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There are quite a few
drunkards Irishmen on HLP. ssmit, Maeg...
Me mam's name was Patty and she went and married Donovan O'Furniture so now she's Patty O'Furniture.
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There are quite a few drunkards Irishmen on HLP. ssmit, Maeg...
Where have I said that I'm Irish? :confused:
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There are quite a few drunkards Irishmen on HLP. ssmit, Maeg...
Me mam's name was Patty and she went and married Donovan O'Furniture so now she's Patty O'Furniture.
Well **** you. There fighting words now,
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Guys, take it to PM or mods :doubt:
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Yeah but you can only blame the script for that. :p
Given that it was the first movie it was better the way they did it (slow intro of the bad guys).
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There are quite a few drunkards Irishmen on HLP. ssmit, Maeg...
Where have I said that I'm Irish? :confused:
Must've been someone else.
There are quite a few drunkards Irishmen on HLP. ssmit, Maeg...
Me mam's name was Patty and she went and married Donovan O'Furniture so now she's Patty O'Furniture.
Well **** you. There fighting words now,
Apparently you haven't met my Irish family. Christ, I know that all Irishmen are not alcoholics, how do you think I like it when I get called igloo-boy?
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This film was amazing. I'd imagine that your mileage is dependent on how familiar you are with the Transformers franchise, but nobody can be unimpressed by the mind-blowing action scenes.
Films are merely a medium through which various qualitatively different experiences can be conveyed. Transformers was never meant to have a profound, coherent story; it gives us mostly what we went to see, yet critics score it on the same one-dimensional scale as every other film. That said, the story didn't have to be this stupid, and every single non-battle scene was cringe-worthy to the point where I suspect that the cheese factor was deliberate. I suppose some filler is needed to break up the fights.
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I've seen it in a total, probably around 4 times. Working at a theater has its benefits.
However, I am disappointed how they always say "Roll Out" and rarely "Transform" and never once said "Maximize" or "Terrorize."
When the tiger Decepticon (Not a huge TRANS fan, don't know names 100%) got its spine ripped out though, ...oooh that was great.
Also, compared to the first once, Optimus Prime totally owned ass. I mean, in the first one, Megatron could take him. In this one, Megatron gets whooped. He loses an arm, for god sakes. Thats brutal.
Also disappointed how Devestator, the certainly biggest, and one of the meanest Decepticons, gets destroyed so quickly.
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I've seen it in a total, probably around 4 times. Working at a theater has its benefits.
However, I am disappointed how they always say "Roll Out" and rarely "Transform" and never once said "Maximize" or "Terrorize."
When the tiger Decepticon (Not a huge TRANS fan, don't know names 100%) got its spine ripped out though, ...oooh that was great.
Also, compared to the first once, Optimus Prime totally owned ass. I mean, in the first one, Megatron could take him. In this one, Megatron gets whooped. He loses an arm, for god sakes. Thats brutal.
Also disappointed how Devestator, the certainly biggest, and one of the meanest Decepticons, gets destroyed so quickly.
Unless I've completely forgot my Transformer's lore...Terrorize and Maximize was the Predacons and Maximal territory only. Transform and roll out are pretty bang on...they didn't say transform that much true. They might be saying it the whole bloody movie then :)
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i did not like the mix of comic relief and semi-serious plot:
doggie humping!
OPTIMUS PRIME IS DEAD
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Took my nephew to see it again. Got a refund from the last time. No power cuts this time, thankfully! :D
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http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/escape-to-the-movies/797-Transformers-Revenge
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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While the explodeyness was mindblowingly awesome, the script was clearly written by apes and the entire thing felt like a cheap toilet brush; use once and then then throw it away when it starts to stink. Most of the battle scenes were marred by a depressing lack of the grit and bureaucracy of war. It seemed more like well... a movie than war and these days, that just doesn't cut it. The only time bureaucracy reared it's realistic head, they threw it out of a freakin' plane. Literally. Now, that's not to say that I spent the whole time groaning and covering my eyes. I thoroughly enjoyed watching the overgrown children's toys beat the **** out of each other; but the whole thing felt kind of disposable.
Overall: 6.5 (I'll be generous here and give at a 7) out of 10.
Just my 2 cents.
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http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/escape-to-the-movies/797-Transformers-Revenge
I stopped listening to him about the time he claimed Megan Fox wasn't good looking. He obviously has some sort of mental disease. :p
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http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/escape-to-the-movies/797-Transformers-Revenge
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
He says the movie is far worse then everything Uwe Boll ever did.
Somehow i doubt that, seriously, nothing is as worse as a Boll movie.
I've seen the first Transformers movie yesterday and i enjoyed it.
I enjoyed it like the new Star Trek movie, and as long i don't think about the story it's fine.
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It's a mindless summer blockbuster with exceptional visual effects.
It actually worked better for me than Star Trek, because where Star Trek's "plot" was so "in your face" with just how illogical and idiotic it was ... the absence of any kind of plot other than "ACK RUN AWAY/Robots blowing stuff up/Random silly or slapstick scene" in Transformers 2 at least allowed one to enjoy the action scenes without building up a grudge ;)
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http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/escape-to-the-movies/797-Transformers-Revenge
I stopped listening to him about the time he claimed Megan Fox wasn't good looking. He obviously has some sort of mental disease. :p
What kind of maniac says something like that? Somebody obviously took a few too many hits to the head as a child.
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Meh, expecting a decent plot out of a movie like this is asking too much. Usually I hate mindless action movies, but this one was just too much fun... and most mindless action movies don't have Megan Fox. :P
Besides, I'm not gonna bash a movie that cast Aaron Pierce from 24, referenced Jason Giambi's thong, had a (minor) allusion to Pokémon, and slipped in political propaganda (the annoying oversight guy was always acting on "presidential orders", and they mentioned Obama was the Prez).
And that doesn't even cover the connection to FS2. Amusingly, before the movie I mentioned to a friend that I hoped the Shivans would make an appearance, and
then they all ended up trying to stop the Decepticons from blowing up the Sun... hmm...
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I'm going to skip all the plot related stuff and just say this, I'm dissapointed that you don't get a good look at some of the new 'bots. They are always just whizing by, or blured by a rapidly moving camera. Example: you never really get to see the three scooter-chicks.
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I'd have liked the movie more if they'd had running tallies in the corner of the screen to keep track of all the civilian and military casualties. Especially in that opening sequence.
Also, Optimus' narration is worse than Mohinder's nonsensical babbling about evolution in the first season of Heroes. That takes some doing.
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Loved it. Man MEGATRON is a damn wuss. Transformers 3 out in 2011 hopefully.
---->AUTOBOTS, TRANSFORM!
(Bumblebee is my favorite. Jetfire wasn't so bad. Too old though.)
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In the end of the day, all that matters is that Soundwave appeared (even if he didn't do much). :P
If there's a Transformers 3, I'm hoping to see Shockwave.
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Soundwave was the best part.
Except for the robots fighting.
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Anyone see it in IMAX or both? How much of a difference is there?
I'm looking at about a $12 difference to see it at the IMAX across town.
My local's are pretty comfy though... nice seats and a better parking lot, better
bathrooms...
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Just listened that Moviedbob guy, he's right you know. The movie is a fine summer block buster. Great. It's not good filmaking. One day, someone is going to make a sprawling epic scale blockbuster in the traditional style with sweeping cameras and all that, not shaky cam x50 on turbo speed. OH WAIT! They already did, it's called Lord of the Rings...
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Anyone see it in IMAX or both? How much of a difference is there?
I'm looking at about a $12 difference to see it at the IMAX across town.
My local's are pretty comfy though... nice seats and a better parking lot, better
bathrooms...
The IMAX parts are awesome. Don't know if it's worth $12, but if you have a decent income, I'd do it.
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It was $16.50 in IMAX here, and worth every penny.
This is, however, the only movie I sincerely recommend sitting towards the back in at IMAX; you get into task overload pretty quickly upfront in the early part of the movie.
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I got that too even in a normal cinema (where I saw Transformers 2). Even in the first film I found it hard to make out what was happening and which robot was which.
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Ticket here are about $27 for a non matinee showing at IMAX for 2 people.
Regular tickets are about $16.
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So...Transformers 2. Just saw it.
My opinion...let me put it this way: If Transformers 2 would be a meal, it would be a grand 3-course menu, prepared by a master chef. Unfortunately, said chef, while very proficient at making his menu as tasty as it can be, is patently incapable of producing anything truly nourishing. He has a few meals he knows how to get exactly right, but for anything else, he relies on recipes with very detailed instructions, as well as a boss watching his every move to make sure he follows them. In this case, the boss was out of the house, and the recipes were written by a bunch of people who know what a kitchen is, have seen and tasted food before, but do seem unable to grasp the point behind it all.
So, in conclusion, it would possibly be best if someone took away Orci's and Kurtzman's writing license until they have presented evidence of having attended and understood several scriptwriting classes.
Michael Bay should be demoted to 2nd Unit director immediately.
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Interesting.
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Film was okay
Loved the score to it
Steve Jablonsky did a very job on it!
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I thought it was awesome... yeah there's some things that could have been left out or done
a little better. But amazing.. I came for the battles, I was not disappointed at all.
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Lol read this: http://movies.yahoo.com/feature/smg-transformers-10-questions.html
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Evidently they didn't watch the movie.
1. Same thing you could say about Katrina and New Orleans, you don't hear about that
any more do you, even though it's still a disaster.
2. They lost that shard when they revived Jetfire.
3. Nothing says they one they ripped up was dead, supposedly it was one of the constucticons.
4. Evidently this person has never seen how a microscope or the apparatus the eye doctor's
use to test lens powers for your eye glasses works.
5. She's a Pretender established in the 80's canon. Bee's voice being broken is a good one, but they
did say in the start that he was still having trouble with it.
6. Yes TF's can reproduce after a fashion, hero's are not born, they are built as was once said.
The rest of this question is somewhat dumb.
7. First good question - true I noticed that.
8. Two in a row, nice... agree here too. Although the range on that railgun is probably a good deal longer than
80 miles.
9. If you watch the movie, based on Sam's words that she said I love you first... he was alive enough to hear.
So it was a vision, not robot heaven.
10.
Where does Sam's bandage come from?
It was written into the movie and Mikaela wrapped it in the movie. Again not paying attention.
What about his extra sock?
It came off his foot. Left I think. Again not paying attention.
Why does Sam's roommate not contribute anything at all?
Because of poor screen writing, and a pathetic character.
What was the Fallen doing for those thousands of years Megatron was frozen in ice?
Looking for the Cube was his original order. Gathering his resources, he didn't want to
get his butt off the moon till he had the advantage. They were breeding an army up there.
Again not paying attention.
How does one satellite receive transmissions from everywhere on the planet?
Cause it's hooked into a high level military network with ties to everything. It was essentially
hacked. This was covered in the first movie. Again not paying attention.
Why does Wheelie hump Mikaela's leg?
Supposedly for comedy to break up the Jetfire scene, admittedly stupid scene.
If there's any consolation, Wheelie was called Wheels in the novel, hopefully it's another naming issue.
Why do we have to see John Turturro's thong?
Same sad reason as above... *throws up some*
Why are robots who join together to become Devastator also seen fighting the Army at the same time?
Because.... Again not paying attention.
Why does the government want only our military fighting Decepticons when our weapons seem unable to make so much as a dent on any of them?
Because the government is a body of politicians, not a body of problem solvers.
Why did the ancient Egyptians build a pyramid around the sun-destroying machines instead of just breaking it?
They may not have been the ones to build the pyramid, that was covered. Also, are you going to tell me you can
go up to that thing with a hammer and spear as your best weapons and know how to break it? They'd be more likely
to worship the dumb thing.
Why is the Matrix of Leadership bigger in the Fallen's hand than in Sam's?
The Cube adjusted size, possibly it did the same. It may have also shrunk with the energon reducing over time.
And how do Mikaela's pants stay so clean?
The have that teflon coating commonly seen in men's dress pants.
Anyone want to forward this on... clear things up...?
Heck I'm surprised no one is standing up asking about the Space Bridge or what a Seeker is....
What's going to happen with the other Seekers... what about the guys on the moon... Soundwave...
Why Arcee got so little time, or how about the events in the last two year (which were covered in the novel).
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Evidently they didn't watch the movie.
1. Same thing you could say about Katrina and New Orleans, you don't hear about that
any more do you, even though it's still a disaster.
The incident was covered up. We've heard of the Katrina and New Orleans. In the movie, the population didn't heard what happened in City X, despite of massive explosions and 50 foot high robots walking the streets. Unless you mean to say that Katrina and New Orleans were caused by Transformers.
2. They lost that shard when they revived Jetfire.
They were trying to revive Optimus in the first place, all they had to do was go to his carcase and jam the thing.
What was the Fallen doing for those thousands of years Megatron was frozen in ice?
Looking for the Cube was his original order. Gathering his resources, he didn't want to
get his butt off the moon till he had the advantage. They were breeding an army up there.
Again not paying attention.
Advantage against what? Humans? Couldn't he just do the same thing on Earth where he knew the Matrix and the Cube were?
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They were trying to revive Optimus in the first place, all they had to do was go to his carcase and jam the thing.
But at that point, Sam didn't know the shard would revive Jetfire and vanish in the process. Wheelie just said "Point it at him, and watch the magic happen".
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The incident was covered up. We've heard of the Katrina and New Orleans. In the movie, the population didn't heard what happened in City X, despite of massive explosions and 50 foot high robots walking the streets. Unless you mean to say that Katrina and New Orleans were caused by Transformers.
The population had heard, by way of the internet. This was the point of introducing Sam's roommate and what the Sec7 guy was doing out of the basement. It was a coverup yes, but you can't hide all of it.
They were trying to revive Optimus in the first place, all they had to do was go to his carcase and jam the thing.
At that time it had only been established from Sam's POV that the cube was responsible for making non TF objects become Decepticons and
kill Megatron. Why would you shove it into prime, if you only knew that much?
Advantage against what? Humans? Couldn't he just do the same thing on Earth where he knew the Matrix and the Cube were?
The Fallen didn't know where the Cube was, that's why everyone was looking for it. This was covered when Megatron returned to the moon, and said he had failed his mission to get the Cube.
The Fallen also didn't know where the matrix was, that's because it was hidden by the Primes after he had been defeated the first time.
They used Sam and Co. to get it for them, then they attacked trying to claim it. They didn't know where it was, even though they gave Sam the Matrix treatment with the bug in the brain - because they were interrupted from sawing open his head to get the rest.
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:blah: You guys better assign some safe words if your going to attempt to debate the merits of RotF's story, because thats definitely an adventure into sadomasochism.
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Regarding the last one, then why not build your base near (as in, not in the freaking moon) the device you want to use?
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Hmm, maybe they don't like humans... maybe their realitor was a real jerk...
Maybe it has some added benefit for staying hidden...
I got the impression the structure there was a crashed ship, like the original in the
cartoon. They were leaching off it's systems.
From a travel distance standpoint, you can reach most of earth from the moon orbital wise.
If you're on the far side of the planet, you have to go around, or go up and then down again.
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Hmm, maybe they don't like humans... maybe their realitor was a real jerk...
Maybe it has some added benefit for staying hidden...
He could just kill the humans, it's not like he has to abide by some honor code. Also, if the Primes were defeated, what exactly is he staying hidden from?
I got the impression the structure there was a crashed ship, like the original in the
cartoon. They were leaching off it's systems.
If so, it seems to be the only plausible reason.
From a travel distance standpoint, you can reach most of earth from the moon orbital wise.
If you're on the far side of the planet, you have to go around, or go up and then down again.
Erm...
(http://btc.montana.edu/ceres/Worlds/smimg.jpg)
No... just no.
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He could just kill the humans, it's not like he has to abide by some honor code. Also, if the Primes were defeated, what exactly is he staying hidden from?
He presumably knew there was still one more.
Alternate, he was hiding from the fact he looks like he's gonna break out into "Walk Like An Egyptian" at any moment.
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13. One of my advisors will be an average five-year-old child. Any flaws in my plan that he is able to spot will be corrected before implementation.
From the Evil Overlord list. Replace plan with Plot. That's what all the writers should do.
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On a related note, Tranformers 2 FAQ (http://www.toplessrobot.com/2009/06/bonus_robs_transformers_2_faqs.php)
Could you sum up the film in one line of its dialogue?
"I am standing directly beneath the enemy's scrotum."
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On a related note, Tranformers 2 FAQ (http://www.toplessrobot.com/2009/06/bonus_robs_transformers_2_faqs.php)
Could you sum up the film in one line of its dialogue?
"I am standing directly beneath the enemy's scrotum."
Ehehe that was funny.
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On a related note, Tranformers 2 FAQ (http://www.toplessrobot.com/2009/06/bonus_robs_transformers_2_faqs.php)
Pure gold! I laughed while reading it.
And its' so true....
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Agreed, that was awesome.
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it needed hobbits :p
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On a related note, Tranformers 2 FAQ (http://www.toplessrobot.com/2009/06/bonus_robs_transformers_2_faqs.php)
Could you sum up the film in one line of its dialogue?
"I am standing directly beneath the enemy's scrotum."
Yeah, that and the leg humping scene I really wish they didn't do.
They were trying to revive Optimus in the first place, all they had to do was go to his carcase and jam the thing.
Also maybe because it wasn't enough given the extent of the damage.
He could just kill the humans, it's not like he has to abide by some honor code. Also, if the Primes were defeated, what exactly is he staying hidden from?
The other Autobots probably.
They were breeding an army up there.
I certainly got the impression they were trying to, but didn't it say by the time the movie started that they didn't have enough energon left for them to operational, which is why they needed the Cube. The autobots probably wanted it for similair reasons, as well as to rebuild their ruined homeworld. Funny how even in racial twilight they still keep fighting, not that the decepticons want peace.
It still doesn't explain where the Cube is really from, or maybe I missed something.
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Watch the first movie again, it says they know not from where it came.
But it gave life to their world.
IE - it was put there, or it crashed there, zapped the tar out of a metallic rock and up popped
TFs.
From wikipedia alpha trion:
He is, in his own words, "a first generation product of Vector Sigma," meaning that he was one of the first wave of robots created by the Quintessons and imbued with life by the mega-computer when the aliens occupied Cybertron twelve million years ago. Then known as A-3, he spearheaded the rebellion of the consumer goods robots, turning their 'slave brand' into a symbol of freedom.
The Fallen = Quintesson
Cube = Vector Sigma or Allspark
Wiki Vector Sigma:
Vector Sigma is the "mega-computer" that gives sentience ("Sparks" in later parlance) to non-sentient robots, and is used by the Quintessons to endow their robotic creations with the true life that eventually leads to their rebellion. Vector Sigma attests that "before Cybertron was, I was." Subsequent fictions, such as Dreamwave's Transformers, would establish that Vector Sigma is a mainframe used by Primus, the creator god of the Transformers.
Vector Sigma requires a special circuit key to activate itself, which completes its power circuits. Additionally, should the key be lost, Vector Sigma's first-generation creations share his computation matrix, and are hence able to interface their power supply with it, reactivating it at the cost of their own life. The key itself possessed the ability to "de-energise matter," converting organic substances into "technomatter" (a mechanical and metal facsimile of itself).
Pretty much anyway... Quintesson sounds better for a bad guy though.
Vector Sigma was not revisited in the American series until the fourth and final season of the show, consisting of a three-part story entitled The Rebirth. Vector Sigma allowed Galvatron to become aware of the existence of the key to the Plasma Energy Chamber, the theft of which set in motion a chain of events that would restore Cybertron's Golden Age. Using the shell of the Matrix (its energies having been previously spent to cure the Hate Plague), Optimus Prime reactivated Vector Sigma, and conversed with Alpha Trion within the machine, learning of the computer's plans. Then, when the energy of the Plasma Energy Chamber threatened to overload Earth's sun, Spike Witwicky was able to redirect the excess solar energy into Vector Sigma, revitalizing the entire planet.
Sound familiar?
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He could just kill the humans, it's not like he has to abide by some honor code. Also, if the Primes were defeated, what exactly is he staying hidden from?
The other Autobots probably.
There weren't any Autobots, and even if there were, considering he was the strongest of the Primes and had just forced the remaining Primes to commit suicide, I can't see what he would gain by staying hidden.
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There weren't any Autobots,
Then where did they come from? My theory is that the Primes were the leaders of the race, not the whole race. The Autobots were the ones who supported the Primes who sacrificed themselves while the decepticons supported the Fallen. Why hide? Maybe he was badly outnumbered or something and needed to build his armies, starting with Megatron. Just a guess though. After all, why bother getting your hands dirty when others would be more than happy to do it for you?
Watch the first movie again, it says they know not from where it came
Yeah but I was still hoping they would discover its origins or something. :p
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Saw it yesterday. OMFG THE EXPLOSIONS! They had som many explosions and fight scenes it was crazy. Optimus Prime really kicked ass, especially in the forest where he took on three Decepticons, including Megatron at the same freaking time with his kickass heat blades. I was expecting the fight between him and the Fallen to be a little longer though, not the thirty-second ass-beating it ended up being. I think they ran out of explosives and CGI money after the looooooong battle between the Decepticons, the Autobots, and the U.S. I do have a pretty juvenile sense of humor, so I ended up laughing a lot during the movie.
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There weren't any Autobots,
Then where did they come from? My theory is that the Primes were the leaders of the race, not the whole race. The Autobots were the ones who supported the Primes who sacrificed themselves while the decepticons supported the Fallen. Why hide? Maybe he was badly outnumbered or something and needed to build his armies, starting with Megatron. Just a guess though. After all, why bother getting your hands dirty when others would be more than happy to do it for you?
"Only a Prime can beat a Prime" and every other Prime commiting suicide doesn't really bode well for the theory that he had to hide for safety. As for getting the work done for you, I seem to recall that he didn't plan for the kid to have the knowledge of the cube and the Decepticons wanted to rip his head off so THEY could find the matrix. So really why would he hide? For giggles?
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"Only a Prime can beat a Prime" and every other Prime commiting suicide doesn't really bode well for the theory that he had to hide for safety. As for getting the work done for you, I seem to recall that he didn't plan for the kid to have the knowledge of the cube and the Decepticons wanted to rip his head off so THEY could find the matrix. So really why would he hide? For giggles?
I thought, at first, he was crippled given his apparently being hooked up to some kind life-support (Spark-support?) gear, but they had to blow that at the end.
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"Only a Prime can beat a Prime" and every other Prime commiting suicide doesn't really bode well for the theory that he had to hide for safety.
There was still at least one decendant of the Primes running around, with his supporting army. And yeah, at the start of the movie The Fallen really didn't look like he was in good shape.
I thought, at first, he was crippled given his apparently being hooked up to some kind life-support (Spark-support?) gear, but they had to blow that at the end.
Maybe he was and he was just saving himself until they found what they were looking for.
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BTW has anyone seen the Twins icecream truck in stores yet? I definitely want to get that one.
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"Only a Prime can beat a Prime" and every other Prime commiting suicide doesn't really bode well for the theory that he had to hide for safety.
There was still at least one decendant of the Primes running around, with his supporting army. And yeah, at the start of the movie The Fallen really didn't look like he was in good shape.
*sigh* You seem to have difficulty understanding this. The Fallen's base wasn't built immediately after the Autobots arrived. The Fallen was there way before the Autobots arrived. Hence he didn't have anyone to hide from. Literally.
The autobots weren't there to be a threat.
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owww I just saw it yesterday, damn! I loved it :D
optimus kicks ass!
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How did Optimus go from being unable to defeat Megatron (first movie I mean) to being able to completely p4wn four Decepticons and the Fallen single-handedly?
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He needed time to boot his OS... he's still running Win 95.
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He needed time to boot his OS... he's still running Win 95.
:lol:
How did Optimus go from being unable to defeat Megatron (first movie I mean) to being able to completely p4wn four Decepticons and the Fallen single-handedly?
Jetfire and some others gave him their parts and BAM! ULTRA Optimus Prime.
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How did Optimus go from being unable to defeat Megatron (first movie I mean) to being able to completely p4wn four Decepticons and the Fallen single-handedly?
Combat experience.
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How did Optimus go from being unable to defeat Megatron (first movie I mean) to being able to completely p4wn four Decepticons and the Fallen single-handedly?
Combat experience.
Bahahaha. :lol: Awesome response.
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How did Optimus go from being unable to defeat Megatron (first movie I mean) to being able to completely p4wn four Decepticons and the Fallen single-handedly?
Someone remembered he wasn't ****.
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Sine they were hooked into the world wide web....
Prime had a chance later on to review some human battle training programs.
Namely: Chuck Norris, Bruce Lee, Jackie Chan, Gundam, and the Matrix.
In Transformers 3, we shall see Drunken Masta Prime.
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"Only a Prime can beat a Prime" and every other Prime commiting suicide doesn't really bode well for the theory that he had to hide for safety.
There was still at least one decendant of the Primes running around, with his supporting army. And yeah, at the start of the movie The Fallen really didn't look like he was in good shape.
*sigh* You seem to have difficulty understanding this. The Fallen's base wasn't built immediately after the Autobots arrived. The Fallen was there way before the Autobots arrived. Hence he didn't have anyone to hide from. Literally.
The autobots weren't there to be a threat.
So the Fallen just hangs there, pissed off. For like 17 000 years. Not doing anything at all. Then the Autobots return and the Fallen does nothing at all. When OPTIMUS PRIME DIEEEEES the Fallen decides to do the thing he hasn't done for 17 000 years for no obvious reason at all, and immediately somehow finds the place he is looking for (even though originally they want the information in Sam's head; IIRC they just kinda... forgot about it and just skipped over that part?).
... is he retarded? This thing does not make any sense!
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And you figured that only now? :eek:
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And you figured that only now? :eek:
sorry i just couldn't focus on anything for three weeks because the movie gave me a permanent seizure
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Not to mention how they were chasing after Sam to get a sock full of Matrix dust, since apparently the Matrix is 'earned'. Don't know how the rules work but I doubt it would've just reassembled itself for one of the Decepticons. :doubt: