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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: Rick James on June 30, 2009, 02:08:22 pm
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Clicky (http://kotaku.com/5304376/the-pirate-bay-purchased)
According to Hans Pandeya, CEO of Sweden's Global Gaming Factory, "We would like to introduce models which entail that content providers and copyright owners get paid for content that is downloaded via the site."
Pandeya adds that while The Pirate Bay is one of the top 100 most visited sites on the entire internet, it needs to change. "In order to live on, The Pirate Bay requires a new business model, which satisfies the requirements and needs of all parties, content providers, broadband operators, end users, and the judiciary," says the GGF exec. "Content creators and providers need to control their content and get paid for it." What's more, Pandeya adds, file sharers need "faster downloads and better quality".
According to a statement from The Pirate Bay, "If the new owners will screw around with the site, nobody will keep using it. That's the biggest insurance one can have that the site will be run in the way that we all want to."
I applaud this move. It's about time peer-to-peer was seen as truly legitimate, and being acquired by a legally recognized company is a huge first step.
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Whilst it's a good business idea, take away the 'Free' aspect and, as Pirate Bay says, the number of visitors to the site will plummet. The whole reason it is so popular is because of what it is, stop it from being what it is and it will collapse.
Not saying that's a bad or good thing, just a thing.
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Except, of course, going legit means it's not The Pirate Bay with its charming, incredibly defiant ownership.
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The tough part will be getting the users to actually use it and not just switch to a new free site.
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Anyone remember Napster? :p
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I can't believe you caved TPB. Farewell.
/me sets sail for scurvier waters. :arrr:
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Napster Part 2....
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How long before they have another site up with a different name that is basically the old Pirate Bay?
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There are actually many sites that have been around for years that fill the same role as Pirate Bay. They were just one of the more well-known sites. ;)
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Anyone remember Napster? :p
I keep hearing rumors it's still around.. We all know that's not true. :P
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Anyone remember Napster? :p
Ahhhh the original pirate baby
God old days!
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Never underestimate the desire of people to get something for nothing.
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You guys ever stop to consider that maybe there are other ways to pay for it besides actually contributing money? It's entirely possible they pay by putting in commercials, or advertisements, but we don't have to actually put one cent into anyone's pockets.
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What's the second largest tracker? I know that ISOHunt is still fighting the good fight.
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Careful, remember Forum policy, I'll let that stand because this is a thread about a pirate site, but lets not make a habit of identifying the sites involved.
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Exactly, that's why I'm letting it stand, but you know as well as I that finding the link from the name is not exactly a chore, so it could be interpreted as a link, it's that which people need to be careful about.
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Bah....just typing in "torrent" in google will give you the links to a dozen such sites. Even less of a chore.
So really, the whole thing is silly to me.
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If people want to go google stuff off their own bat, that's fine, it's their choice to make, and their responsibility, if it goes wrong, they take the brunt of it, but if people post links in here, then the Admin become in part responsible for it, and I cannot blame them for not wanting to.
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RIP, TPB.
By the way, will the name be changed at all, seeing as how it won't be full of pirates anymore?
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I doubt it. :doubt:
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You guys ever stop to consider that maybe there are other ways to pay for it besides actually contributing money? It's entirely possible they pay by putting in commercials, or advertisements, but we don't have to actually put one cent into anyone's pockets.
It's a possibility, but I guess the assumption is that they will follow in Napster's footsteps. Plus, aisn't ad revenue declining on the interwebs because of adblockers?
By the way, will the name be changed at all, seeing as how it won't be full of pirates anymore?
No way. It'd be better if they did. Corporate types seem to have very weird ideas about what makes things popular.
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nooooooooooooo!
now its gonna be another abomination
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You guys ever stop to consider that maybe there are other ways to pay for it besides actually contributing money? It's entirely possible they pay by putting in commercials, or advertisements, but we don't have to actually put one cent into anyone's pockets.
The copywrite nazis generally consider other business models to be a threat, nevermind that such things are a fundemental part of capitalism.
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The copyright Nazis don't believe in capitalism. They believe in GiveMeMoneyism.
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Oh, the irony (http://torrentfreak.com/suspicions-of-insider-trading-surround-pirate-bay-buyers-090701/). The company attempting to acquire The Pirate Bay is now under scrutiny for suspicions of insider trading.
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Two Words: SELL OUT
It seems everyone has their price....
Dont despair, im sure another site will soon emerge to take its place of number 1! (Im sure their are plenty out there)
Strange though, since they recently won a seat in the Euorpean Elections
"Copyright Nazis" - Love it!!!!! :D Really does sum it all up. "Heil moneygrabbing bastards" :mad:
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Pirate Party =/= Pirate Bay. Two different entities, very loosely related.
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"For every one of us that falls, ten more shall take his place!"
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"Principles" seem to fall to rent paying. Again. I am shocked.
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AWR AWR AWR
Man.. I don't even care too much. I think violating copyright and stealing are wrong, but I don't lose any sleep over torrenting movies and shoplifting make-up from wal-mart. Not like if I was taking candy from babies or something. And even then, if it's an ugly baby and the candy is blue raspberry, screw the kid, it's MINE.
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Yeah, I kinda agree with iamzack. With TPB, I knew what I was doing was wrong, and really the only time I ever tried to rationalize it was for sake of argument. But I never really felt bad about it. Maybe I'm the sociopathic cancer that's choking the gaming industry and putting people out of work, and I'm an evil blight on society.
If people want to stop piracy, then trying to put up "walls" won't help. They need to make people not want to pirate, and "You wouldn't download a car" propaganda doesn't work.
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I would download a car if I could.
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I would download a car if I could.
Precisely.
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I would download a car if I could.
Why? If you could download a car you could just upload yourself where you needed to go so no car required.
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True.
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I would download a car if I could.
Why? If you could download a car you could just upload yourself where you needed to go so no car required.
Because racing is fun.
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I would download a car if I could.
Why? If you could download a car you could just upload yourself where you needed to go so no car required.
...and hope the place where you want to go to doesn't have a firewall... :P
OT: Pirating stuff is bad, but so are copy-protect-crap like securom other stuff like that wont let you play a game that you actually paid for, because it doesn't like your DVD drive or the fact that you have a burning software installed.
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I would download a car if I could.
Why? If you could download a car you could just upload yourself where you needed to go so no car required.
No, internet matter transfer only works on non-living things.
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I would download a car if I could.
Why? If you could download a car you could just upload yourself where you needed to go so no car required.
No, internet matter transfer only works on non-living things.
So like reverse terminator tech?
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I would download a car if I could.
Why? If you could download a car you could just upload yourself where you needed to go so no car required.
No, internet matter transfer only works on non-living things.
So like reverse terminator tech?
Like the Bulk Matter Transmitter from SMAC.
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I would download a car if I could.
Why? If you could download a car you could just upload yourself where you needed to go so no car required.
...and hope the place where you want to go to doesn't have a firewall... :P
OT: Pirating stuff is bad, but so are copy-protect-crap like securom other stuff like that wont let you play a game that you actually paid for, because it doesn't like your DVD drive or the fact that you have a burning software installed.
And that's my main reason for torrenting. Stardock made Sins for under 1 million dollars. They sell copies for 20$. They are perfectly content. Now why does EA have to add Securom, sell titles for 70$ a pop, and try to gyp you out of resale? What can one person possibly do with so much money? Even with 30 million in the bank the interest is going to be 1 million annually, why do you need more than that?
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$5 for access to the site will still attract millions of people, and will generate the revenue to pay off the game designers.
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Only if you have internet-friendly money. Some of us are still reliant on cash.
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Only if you have internet-friendly money. Some of us are still reliant on cash.
:D these are recessionary times :D
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Come to think of it, why do people seed torrents? It's not like they have anything to gain from it. Given that they're seeding, they already have the game, whether legit or not, and seeding only chews up computer and internet usage. It's in their personal interest not to seed.
Surely internet pirates of all people aren't being altruistic!
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How much money does it cost to seed? I've never done it so I don't know what fees are usually involved.
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Come to think of it, why do people seed torrents? It's not like they have anything to gain from it. Given that they're seeding, they already have the game, whether legit or not, and seeding only chews up computer and internet usage. It's in their personal interest not to seed.
Surely internet pirates of all people aren't being altruistic!
I guess it's a community / codependency thing. Everyone "doing their part" so the pirate machine as a whole keeps running ? lol.
I doubt anyone who is seeding never downloads stuff on their own, so there goes altruism ;) lol.
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How much money does it cost to seed? I've never done it so I don't know what fees are usually involved.
None if you have an unlimited connection.
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Well.... I mean... there's still your internet bill. But yeah, it shouldn't cost any more.
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I'm just curious when the effort of altruism comes in. It seems to be a fairly simple process.
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It's not altruism. It's common sense. If nobody seeds, there's no pirating.
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That was kinda my point.
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YAARRR
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It's not altruism. It's common sense. If nobody seeds, there's no pirating.
Huh. I don't seed. Doesn't seem to make a difference. I guess I'm just lucky.
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It's not altruism. It's common sense. If nobody seeds, there's no pirating.
Huh. I don't seed. Doesn't seem to make a difference. I guess I'm just lucky.
That's like being a waiter who is a ****ty tipper.
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It's not altruism. It's common sense. If nobody seeds, there's no pirating.
Huh. I don't seed. Doesn't seem to make a difference. I guess I'm just lucky.
That's like being a waiter who is a ****ty tipper.
Well, not really. But I guess I see what you're trying to say.
It's just weird. The internet seems like the only place I've seen groups that require communal work like this thrive. IRL, everyone just gets lazy and the program dies after the founder leaves.
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Arguably, IRL society requires communal work. People get jobs, pay taxes, raise children properly, etc. Few enough people fail that society continues.
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Arguably, IRL society requires communal work. People get jobs, pay taxes, raise children properly, etc. Few enough people fail that society continues.
The difference is that most people would die if they decided to not be part of society.
Not very many people are totally self-sufficient.
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And what do we call those people? Leeches.
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Leeches, whether by their own fault or not.
If you don't seed, you are basically that crazy evangelical 20something dude born without arms or legs.