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Title: Tron Legacy...
Post by: Flipside on July 25, 2009, 04:57:00 pm
Apparently Jeff Bridges is currently filming Tron 2 - Legacy.

I'm in two minds about this, Hollywood is far too obsessed with remakes right now, often sacrificing everything that made the brand good purely for the sake of tagging the name onto the movie.

http://www.wired.com/underwire/2009/07/olivia-wilde-talks-tron-legacy-light-cycles/

Looks interesting though...
Title: Re: Tron Legacy...
Post by: Mr. Vega on July 25, 2009, 04:58:59 pm
(http://www.penny-arcade.com/images/2007/20070704.jpg)
Title: Re: Tron Legacy...
Post by: Flipside on July 25, 2009, 05:23:00 pm
I do get visions of Jeff walking out of a building, staring at the road for a moment and saying..

'Dude, where's my light-cycle?'
Title: Re: Tron Legacy...
Post by: Scotty on July 25, 2009, 05:30:01 pm
You forgot the excerpts:

(http://www.penny-arcade.com/images/2007/20070706.jpg)
Title: Re: Tron Legacy...
Post by: Colonol Dekker on July 25, 2009, 07:16:20 pm
I'm not bothered either way as i love the original. As a hardcore nostalgist nothing will measure up to the feeling of youth i experience when watching original classics like Thundercats Ho! and Transformers the movie or Tron. The best bit of Transformers was Megan Fox anyway....

I'll give it a look-see when it's out but i'm in no rush :doubt:
Title: Re: Tron Legacy...
Post by: Flipside on July 25, 2009, 07:23:15 pm
The CGI, at least, looks like it's been kept faithful to the original, but I can't look at Jeff without thinking of 'The Architect' from the Matrix.
Title: Re: Tron Legacy...
Post by: BloodEagle on July 25, 2009, 08:21:58 pm
I check IMDB's future movie lists every now and then, and I think that Tron 2 is the least of our worries.


http://uk.imdb.com/title/tt1462764/
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0870154/
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1304618/
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1229238/
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1453405/
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1298650/
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1103173/
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1414372/
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1300860/
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0382315/
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0903624/
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1170358/
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1386664/
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1371146/
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1462770/
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0400911/
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1204342/
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1289401/
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0464037/
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0772171/
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0785009/
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1343727/
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1444302/


How many signs of the apocolypse does one need, anyway?  :P

-------

There was only one title that didn't disturb me: Riddick (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1411250/).  :D
Title: Re: Tron Legacy...
Post by: Scotty on July 25, 2009, 08:30:16 pm
How are they going to have The Hobbit and The Hobbit 2 in the same year?  How the hell are they even going to have a Hobbit 2!

Whoops, just noticed that the Hobbit is 2011, not 2012.

Anyway, I wouldn't mind a Halo movie, provided they get it right (which I admit isn't very likely).
Title: Re: Tron Legacy...
Post by: colecampbell666 on July 25, 2009, 08:30:57 pm
Why are they all 2012?
Title: Re: Tron Legacy...
Post by: Scotty on July 25, 2009, 08:31:37 pm
Signs of the apocalypse.
Title: Re: Tron Legacy...
Post by: Flipside on July 25, 2009, 08:33:58 pm
I think people are just snapping up copyright licenses for profit to be honest, and maybe you can only hold the licence for 3 years without doing anything on it, so a lot of these films are listed for 3 years time to maximise the possibility of earning lots of money by selling the license on.
Title: Re: Tron Legacy...
Post by: Galemp on July 25, 2009, 09:03:55 pm
Tron was never a 'good' movie, but damn did it have style.

I'm gonna see it, twice.

I wonder if Syd Mead is still on board?
Title: Re: Tron Legacy...
Post by: Liberator on July 25, 2009, 09:22:51 pm
What I haven't seen commented on is that the little bit with Jeff Bridges in it during the trailer/vfx thingy was terminated with a gunshot, which assumes that his character commits suicide.
Title: Re: Tron Legacy...
Post by: karajorma on July 26, 2009, 10:29:33 am
How the hell are they even going to have a Hobbit 2!

They split the book in two and included more of the unseen stuff about the white council driving the Necromancer out of Dol Guldur apparently.
Title: Re: Tron Legacy...
Post by: Snail on July 26, 2009, 10:41:56 am
They did that? It's going to suck.
Title: Re: Tron Legacy...
Post by: karajorma on July 26, 2009, 10:51:23 am
*Bookmarks those words to make Snail eat them at a later date*
Title: Re: Tron Legacy...
Post by: SpardaSon21 on July 26, 2009, 11:59:50 am
Peter Jackson is involved in the Hobbit movies so that's a guarantee that they won't completely suck.  Of course, they could still moderately suck.
Title: Re: Tron Legacy...
Post by: Snail on July 26, 2009, 12:01:32 pm
Peter Jackson is involved in the Hobbit movies so that's a guarantee that they won't completely suck.  Of course, they could still moderately suck.
Just because he's produced good products in the past doesn't mean he will create good products forever.
Title: Re: Tron Legacy...
Post by: Rhymes on July 26, 2009, 12:44:48 pm
But if the same people (such as Fran Walsh and Philippa Boyens) that made LotR are working on the Hobbit, then it will almost certainly NOT suck.  It wasn't just Peter Jackson who made LotR, ya know.
Title: Re: Tron Legacy...
Post by: BloodEagle on July 26, 2009, 01:45:50 pm
/me points out that he thinks that Peter Jackson is a hack.
Title: Re: Tron Legacy...
Post by: Liberator on July 26, 2009, 05:06:16 pm
*liberator points out that PJ hasn't made anything of note sine LOTR
Title: Re: Tron Legacy...
Post by: Kosh on July 27, 2009, 09:28:17 am
/me points out that he thinks that Peter Jackson is a hack.

Maybe so, but we should keep in mind that he did a damn good job with the King Kong remake.

Now on a slightly unrelated note, I have a shameful admission to make, I never saw the original Tron.........
Title: Re: Tron Legacy...
Post by: Colonol Dekker on July 27, 2009, 09:34:00 am
 :eek2: Heretic...  The birthplace of "Snake" and many other fine mobile phone games.

Seriously though, run out and buy it.


Also Braindead was PJs finest work, not LOTR....
Title: Tron Legacy trailer
Post by: Sarafan on July 28, 2009, 09:02:28 pm
This is going to be a great movie! :D :yes:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6HcsDc_9LX8


edit: Oh, didnt saw this thread, my bad.
Title: Re: Tron Legacy...
Post by: BloodEagle on July 29, 2009, 09:53:09 pm
They just won't stop (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0488982/).  :doubt:
Title: Re: Tron Legacy...
Post by: Liberator on July 29, 2009, 10:49:03 pm
To be fair, aside from the whip thing, that at least sounds like a movie I'd go see.  There's just enough plot in the original game to act as a framework for the film to build in.  I just don't see how they can make a whip of all things look like a credible weapon of undead elimination and still be a whip.
Title: Re: Tron Legacy...
Post by: redsniper on July 29, 2009, 10:55:12 pm
Indiana Jones
Title: Re: Tron Legacy...
Post by: Flipside on July 11, 2010, 12:11:09 pm
Bit of a bump... Second Trailer.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U74p63icZtA&feature=channel

Still in two minds about some aspects, but I'll probably watch it anyway ;)

Edit: Oh, and Felix Boxleitner is in it, looks like he's given up on the hair-dye ;)
Title: Re: Tron Legacy...
Post by: General Battuta on July 11, 2010, 12:15:56 pm
omg omg omg
Title: Re: Tron Legacy...
Post by: Flipside on July 11, 2010, 12:30:39 pm
I like the new take on the recognizers, same shape, but they look a lot meaner with greebles ;)
Title: Re: Tron Legacy...
Post by: Galemp on July 11, 2010, 01:04:12 pm
Someone unleashed the FSU team on Tron! :D
Title: Re: Tron Legacy...
Post by: qazwsx on July 11, 2010, 05:21:10 pm
Skintight suits, glowing neon, and her?
(http://screenrant.com/wp-content/uploads/Tron-Legacy-Olivia-Wilde.jpg.jpg)

It's like the transformers reboot...

Not like that's a bad thing in this case >_>
Title: Re: Tron Legacy...
Post by: General Battuta on July 11, 2010, 05:25:19 pm
Skintight suits, glowing neon, and her?
(http://screenrant.com/wp-content/uploads/Tron-Legacy-Olivia-Wilde.jpg.jpg)

It's like the transformers reboot...

Not like that's a bad thing in this case >_>

Olivia Wilde wasn't in Transformers. Weren't the suits always skintight and glowing neon?
Title: Re: Tron Legacy...
Post by: qazwsx on July 11, 2010, 05:28:24 pm
yes, but the women didn't look hot in them in the original... >_>
Title: Re: Tron Legacy...
Post by: Flipside on July 11, 2010, 05:40:08 pm
It got 2010'd ;)

I think the thing is, in the old Tron, they'd tried to show the people as personifications of actual programs written by the 'Users', each program was a physical copy of it's creator, but the actors tended to accent the fact they were programs by acting a little bit 'stiff' much of the time, whereas programs in this incarnation seem a lot more human from what I saw of them, of course, that kind of repressed behaviour in Tron could also be down to the influence of the MCP.
Title: Re: Tron Legacy...
Post by: Titan on July 11, 2010, 06:21:46 pm
I think the thing is, in the old Tron, they'd tried to show the people as personifications of actual programs written by the 'Users', each program was a physical copy of it's creator, but the actors tended to accent the fact they were programs by acting a little bit 'stiff' much of the time, whereas programs in this incarnation seem a lot more human from what I saw of them, of course, that kind of repressed behaviour in Tron could also be down to the influence of the MCP.

I think what you're talking about is them trying to make a good movie. That sounds like a great touch.
Title: Re: Tron Legacy...
Post by: Angelus on July 11, 2010, 07:41:53 pm
Looks impressive. Hope they don't **** it up.
Title: Re: Tron Legacy...
Post by: Flipside on July 11, 2010, 07:57:37 pm
I think the thing is, in the old Tron, they'd tried to show the people as personifications of actual programs written by the 'Users', each program was a physical copy of it's creator, but the actors tended to accent the fact they were programs by acting a little bit 'stiff' much of the time, whereas programs in this incarnation seem a lot more human from what I saw of them, of course, that kind of repressed behaviour in Tron could also be down to the influence of the MCP.

I think what you're talking about is them trying to make a good movie. That sounds like a great touch.

Some of them did it very well to be honest, David Warner did a very good job of playing the same role in 2 completely different ways depending on what side of the computer screen he was on.

It was good to see an appearance by Boxleitner, since it sort of gives the blessing of both the main characters from the original :)
Title: Re: Tron Legacy...
Post by: NGTM-1R on July 11, 2010, 08:46:38 pm
yes, but the women didn't look hot in them in the original... >_>

I don't think there were any woman in the original Tron. Certainly I don't remember any.

Maybe the original suits just rendered them totally gender-ambigous.
Title: Re: Tron Legacy...
Post by: StarSlayer on July 11, 2010, 08:54:27 pm
yes, but the women didn't look hot in them in the original... >_>

I don't think there were any woman in the original Tron. Certainly I don't remember any.

Maybe the original suits just rendered them totally gender-ambigous.

I can't recall if she was in the "Computer" part of it, but there was the blonde laser researcher that going out with Commander Sheridan.

anyway if Kevin Flynn complains at some point "That rug really tied the room together" I would die happy
Title: Re: Tron Legacy...
Post by: Flipside on July 11, 2010, 09:53:12 pm
yes, but the women didn't look hot in them in the original... >_>

I don't think there were any woman in the original Tron. Certainly I don't remember any.

Maybe the original suits just rendered them totally gender-ambigous.

I can't recall if she was in the "Computer" part of it, but there was the blonde laser researcher that going out with Commander Sheridan.

anyway if Kevin Flynn complains at some point "That rug really tied the room together" I would die happy

Yes, she was also in the computer part, the problem was, the original hooded suits, together with the extremely desaturated skin-tones of the computer area left everyone pretty much genderless.
Title: Re: Tron Legacy...
Post by: Liberator on July 12, 2010, 01:12:10 am
This has gotten a bit more interesting, it almost looks like Flynn is the bad guy.
Title: Re: Tron Legacy...
Post by: BlueFlames on July 12, 2010, 01:40:36 am
yes, but the women didn't look hot in them in the original... >_>

In 1982, nonlocal networking involved dialing directly into a server containing a limited range of software and data.  In 2010, nonlocal networking tends to involve an always-on connection to a cloud of data, some eighty-five to ninety percent is pornographic in nature.  Given that bit of perspective, Tron Legacy is handling the female form quite modestly, as an updated film meant to represent twenty-eight years of technological advancement would be its own porno-knockoff.  Incidentally, I'm reasonably certain that making a Tron porno and not calling it Pron is at least a corporal offense.

Anyway, for better or worse, Tron Legacy had my eight dollars from the first trailer.  The only trouble will be finding someone with enough nerd cred to see it with, because if it turns out awful, I'm going to need someone on-hand who will understand my biting sarcasm.  Normally, any of my friends would do, but this is Tron.  It's going to take a special kind of dork.
Title: Re: Tron Legacy...
Post by: qazwsx on July 12, 2010, 04:31:22 am
Anyway, for better or worse, Tron Legacy had my eight dollars from the first trailer.  The only trouble will be finding someone with enough nerd cred to see it with, because if it turns out awful, I'm going to need someone on-hand who will understand my biting sarcasm.  Normally, any of my friends would do, but this is Tron.  It's going to take a special kind of dork.

I have to agree with you there BlueFlames, I kept trying to explain what's so good about this film, but due to my young age, the people I know just don't "get it"
I mean, it's TRON for christ's sake!
Title: Re: Tron Legacy...
Post by: Flipside on July 13, 2010, 01:49:53 pm
Watched Tron again last night, forgot how many nerd jokes there are in there (The control board behind Sark at one point is a huge Pac-Man game, sounds and all, and a lot of the sound effects are processed versions of effects from Mario etc). Apart from Bruce Boxleitner looking incredibly young, it's still an amazingly fun film, if dated ;)
Title: Re: Tron Legacy...
Post by: Colonol Dekker on July 14, 2010, 03:37:29 am
Enough of the cycles and squashy stampy dudes. I want to see how the laser tanks have been upgraded/patched  :D
Title: Re: Tron Legacy...
Post by: jr2 on July 20, 2010, 03:46:09 pm
yes, but the women didn't look hot in them in the original... >_>

I don't think there were any woman in the original Tron. Certainly I don't remember any.

Maybe the original suits just rendered them totally gender-ambigous.

There were.  I do recall a femaile program being recharged by one of the main characters if my memory serves right... they were all going dead cause the MCP was cutting off their power cycles.  Is my memory accurate?
Title: Re: Tron Legacy...
Post by: Flipside on July 20, 2010, 04:36:30 pm
More or less, the Command Carrier was de-rezzing, as was everything on it, including Flynn and the girl ;) There was also a computer 'goth-chick' in one scene of the original that wasn't dissimilar to the one from Legacy, I'll see if I can find it, one minute...

Edit: LOL 90's hair and strange saturation....



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Title: Re: Tron Legacy...
Post by: Colonol Dekker on July 21, 2010, 06:04:45 pm
90's?





 :wtf:





 :lol:
Title: Re: Tron Legacy...
Post by: Flipside on July 21, 2010, 06:52:24 pm
Ok, ok, 82 then :p
Title: Re: Tron Legacy...
Post by: Flipside on July 26, 2010, 06:17:55 pm
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/10011582-TRON_legacy/trailers/11043895/

Moar!

Pretty much more of the same, nice graphics, interesting plane at the end, but I'm getting Matrix vibes that make me slightly uncomfortable. I'll still watch it, the two films are similar enough at heart that some blending is to be expected, just hope it doesn't get taken too far...
Title: Re: Tron Legacy...
Post by: BlueFlames on July 26, 2010, 09:59:16 pm
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nice graphics

Actually, one of the special effects is the most off-putting thing I've ever seen in a trailer:  the de-aging of Jeff Bridges.  When de-aged Flynn smiles, his cheeks don't move.  I don't mean they were botoxed-stiff; I mean the don't move.  Moreover, just before the "I'm not your father," line, while de-aged Flynn is walking, his head doesn't sync with the rest of his body's motion.  Either this effect is still a work-in-progress, and the final version will be better, or they blew the whole effects budget on the obligatory light cycle and disk scenes, and I'm going to have to wretch, every single time de-aged Flynn shows up on the screen.

My prediction for the film is leaning slightly more toward comedically awful, because if the effects budget ran out for a mother-f'n Tron movie, how much do you suppose the writers got paid?  My guess would be fifty cents and a Twix bar.  Time will tell.
Title: Re: Tron Legacy...
Post by: Bobboau on July 26, 2010, 11:16:14 pm
it does however have good music.
Title: Re: Tron Legacy...
Post by: Flipside on July 26, 2010, 11:43:44 pm
To be honest, a few of the effects seemed a bit pre-production, to clarify, I was talking more of re-creating the Tron universe than the altered Flynn. I actually, at first glance, just thought it was someone who looked a bit like Jeff Bridges did when he made Tron, didn't realise it was actually Bridges face re-mapped, but now you mention it, yes, I see what you mean, the face isn't nearly 'alive' enough, that's probably why I thought it wasn't Bridges.

As for the music, I'd love to hear a more modern take on the original Tron stuff (mainly the gorgeous title music at the end of the film), I have suspicions it will crop up, they've resurrected just about everything else...
Title: Re: Tron Legacy...
Post by: Bobboau on July 27, 2010, 12:28:13 am
for your listening (http://blogs.1077theend.com/internbryce/2010/07/22/new-daft-punk-zomg/)
Title: Re: Tron Legacy...
Post by: NGTM-1R on July 27, 2010, 12:45:54 am
Actually, one of the special effects is the most off-putting thing I've ever seen in a trailer:  the de-aging of Jeff Bridges.  When de-aged Flynn smiles, his cheeks don't move.  I don't mean they were botoxed-stiff; I mean the don't move.  Moreover, just before the "I'm not your father," line, while de-aged Flynn is walking, his head doesn't sync with the rest of his body's motion.  Either this effect is still a work-in-progress, and the final version will be better, or they blew the whole effects budget on the obligatory light cycle and disk scenes, and I'm going to have to wretch, every single time de-aged Flynn shows up on the screen.

Or it's delibrate since he's computer-generated and they were reaching for exactly that effect in the viewer.
Title: Re: Tron Legacy...
Post by: Flipside on July 27, 2010, 01:08:18 am
One interesting thought occurs to me, the last physical entity the MCP had contact with was Flynn, and there was a classic line from the original Tron, from the MCP of 'Your move, Flynn....'

Now we have a character that apparently looks like Flynn, and is obsessed with the real Flynn making his 'move'.... (remembering the MCP started of as a chess AI).
Title: Re: Tron Legacy...
Post by: BlueFlames on July 27, 2010, 01:29:29 am
Or it's delibrate since he's computer-generated and they were reaching for exactly that effect in the viewer.

Except, when he's de-aged for the bedtime story flashback that takes place in the real world, and his face is still beige cardboard.  Moreover, why is the digital Flynn clone the only character with this horrible effect applied, if it's something meant to be indicative of all artificial programs?  You're really, really reaching.

Quote
To be honest, a few of the effects seemed a bit pre-production

This seems more likely, and what I'm hoping.  There's still several months to release, so hopefully that time is being used by the effects team to smooth out some of the rough edges like this.
Title: Re: Tron Legacy...
Post by: Bobboau on July 27, 2010, 02:07:30 am
Or it's delibrate since he's computer-generated and they were reaching for exactly that effect in the viewer.

why is the digital Flynn clone the only character with this horrible effect applied, if it's something meant to be indicative of all artificial programs?  You're really, really reaching.


because he is the big bad and you want him to have a creepy un-natural vibe.
Title: Re: Tron Legacy...
Post by: BlueFlames on July 27, 2010, 03:00:23 am
why is the digital Flynn clone the only character with this horrible effect applied, if it's something meant to be indicative of all artificial programs?  You're really, really reaching.

because he is the big bad and you want him to have a creepy un-natural vibe.

Again, then, why is warm, daddy Flynn given the disturbing, unnatural vibe, when he's telling his son a bedtime story that's presumably not meant to give the kid night-terrors?

It's either an unfinished effect or a half-assed effect.
Title: Re: Tron Legacy...
Post by: Bobboau on July 27, 2010, 03:18:17 am
there was a reason I didn't include that part in my quote, but for all we know that scene is from some sort of mind **** hallucination.
Title: Re: Tron Legacy...
Post by: BlueFlames on July 27, 2010, 10:26:14 am
On an almost totally unrelated note, what did you think of Nintendo naming their current console "Wii"?
Title: Re: Tron Legacy...
Post by: Bobboau on July 27, 2010, 10:40:05 am
that is rather unrelated...
Title: Re: Tron Legacy...
Post by: The E on July 27, 2010, 11:03:14 am
It is, in fact, completely unrelated.
Title: Re: Tron Legacy...
Post by: Flipside on July 27, 2010, 11:07:35 am
why is the digital Flynn clone the only character with this horrible effect applied, if it's something meant to be indicative of all artificial programs?  You're really, really reaching.

because he is the big bad and you want him to have a creepy un-natural vibe.

Again, then, why is warm, daddy Flynn given the disturbing, unnatural vibe, when he's telling his son a bedtime story that's presumably not meant to give the kid night-terrors?

It's either an unfinished effect or a half-assed effect.

Though, of course, we are assuming that 'Daddy Flynn' was 'real Flynn', after all, no-one said the digitizer only worked in one direction, in fact, the whole point of it is that it doesn't.... ;)
Title: Re: Tron Legacy...
Post by: BlueFlames on July 27, 2010, 11:41:25 am
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It is, in fact, completely unrelated.

Not completely.  I was just trying to determine if Bobboau (and ngt-m1r) makes a habit of dislocating his shoulders reaching for rationalizations to defend sloppy work and bad decisions on the part of people and businesses who really don't need defending.

In its current form, the de-aging of Jeff Bridges is one of the two.  Seriously, in this special effects extravaganza, wherein the whole look and feel of Tron is being updated for 2010, there's no need for an effect to look like it was made in 1982.  If this was a conscious decision by the effects team or producers, then defending it is as irrational as Nintendo fanboys defending the "Wii" name, back when that was announced.  Hell, defending it is as irrational as my continuing to play retail FS2, when FSO is a readily available and clearly superior alternative.

Moreover, I just don't buy the excuses offered up.  If it was just program-Flynn who had this effect applied, and it was applied to all other programs, I might have bought into it.  Neither of those is the case, though.  The effect is applied to de-age Flynn in both flashbacks to the real world and events occurring in the game, and it's applied to nobody else.  The only possible reason for this is that it's a crappy or unfinished effect.  Stretch your arms to the moon, if you want; you're not going to find anything to rationalize it.

The movie still looks like it's worth seeing.  When I see a bad effect in an effects-based movie, though, it plants a seed of doubt, because if the effects are the priority, and something that bad slips through, it doesn't bode well for the other aspects of the movie.  I'm hopeful that it will be a good film, and I'm expecting that it will be a good film.  Hell, I even suspect that the one criticism I've had so far will be addressed by the time the film is released.  I'm just acknowledging that little seed of doubt, so that it doesn't grow into the cancer that consumes a fanboy's mind, when the rhetoric they feel obliged to produce so clearly doesn't mesh with the reality in which they live.

Anyway, I'm already repeating myself, so I think I'm going to bow out, at least until the next trailer rolls around.  Hopefully Jeff Bridges will find a good chiropractor to get his head more firmly affixed to his neck in that one.  :P
Title: Re: Tron Legacy...
Post by: Flipside on July 27, 2010, 12:36:00 pm
It also doesn't help if you are old enough to remember the original Tron when it came out.

I think part of the problem is that, when he was younger, Bridges had an almost 'cheeky' look to him, like he didn't quite take life seriously, age introduces a level of cynicism that just doesn't look 'right' on a younger face.
Title: Re: Tron Legacy...
Post by: NGTM-1R on July 27, 2010, 01:56:43 pm
Not completely.

Yes, completely, you're trying to equate totally unrelated things. And for the record I didn't really care about the Wii name, thus proving the point they're totally unrelated.
Title: Re: Tron Legacy...
Post by: jr2 on July 31, 2010, 01:10:51 pm
He was drawing a parallel.
Title: Re: Tron Legacy...
Post by: Flipside on March 09, 2011, 07:20:48 pm
Sorry to Necrothread, but since this thread existed it seemed better than starting a new one.

I actually saw this a few months ago and forgot to post my thoughts in here. I'll do them in spoilers in case people haven't seen it yet.

All in, I enjoyed the film, but it did have problems :

Spoiler:
In the original, you were kept 'connected' to the fact this took place inside a computer with characters like Sark and Tron, who had real-world counterparts. Programs (except ISOs) take on the features of the people who wrote them, that was one of the defining factors of Tron. This concept seemed missing in Legacy, the world should have had a lot more 'Flynn lookalikes' if this was a system written by him. All in all, I found it difficult at times to remember that this was supposed to be a computer system, and not just some kind of wierd future-city.

My second main complaint was the fact that, whilst I haven't played Tron:Evolution, I've read the story of it, and I can't help thinking, if you subtracted the story of Evolution from Legacy, what, exactly, would be left? Very little as far as I can tell (in fact, the whole Clu betrayal scene started life as a cutscene in Evolution)

Finally, the corruption of Tron. Why did they do that? It was probably the worst idea of the film next to the fact he returned at just the right dramatic moment for no real reason whatsoever, I suppose you could assume that being asked to kill users was so inherently against his program that it re-asserted itself, but no real explanation is given. It would at least have worked if the final face off at the portal had, at it's climax, seen Tron walk through the door and kick Clu's arse, that would have been more dramatically satisfying for me at least.


All in all it was a good movie, but the programs were too 'human' in their nature at times, and the other problems above meant that, at least for me, it wasn't a great one.