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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: Kosh on July 29, 2009, 08:51:32 am
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except the US as a whole (http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2008/07/amazing-stat-ca/)
Given all the news coverage about the rise of the Chinese economy, you could be forgiven for thinking that the world’s most populous country is hogging all the world’s resources, while the developed nations are fighting for scraps.
But, at least with transportation fuel, you’d be wrong. California alone uses more gasoline than any country in the world (except the US as a whole, of course). That means California’s 20 billion gallon gasoline and diesel habit is greater than China’s! (Or Russia’s. Or India’s. Or Brazil’s. Or Germany’s.)
Now, considering that China is now the largest car market in the world and uses almost as much gas as California, what does that say about American fuel efficiency?
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I thought it had to do with America being a driving culture and almost everyone in California would have a car or two as opposed to China.
And quite frankly, from the article, China could have already beaten California in that amount anyways.
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A lot can change in 1 year, especially in China (where cities grow faster than weeds)
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Problem: California uses too much gasoline. Solution: Destroy California.
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I recommend stoning (rocks... no, not those rocks... think Old Testament). Suitable punishment for Califonication, if you will...
-Thaeris
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Problem: California uses too much gasoline. Solution: Destroy California.
No need to destroy it, we can always wait for the big one (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpmgO4BTNCc).
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disturbing.... well at least you can now say that you also destroyed the environment, not only mid-eastern countries! :p
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Don't destroy California, I live there. Well, if you must destroy part of California, destroy everything north of Pismo Beach. That gets rid of both San Francisco and Sacramento.
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Yes! We're #1!
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Well, if you must destroy part of California, destroy everything north of Pismo Beach. That gets rid of both San Francisco and Sacramento.
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Well it does have a high crime rate so by destroying it, it would really take a bite out of crime. :D Maybe people there care too much about luxary and waste fuel. So it isn't just food in this country that people indulge in too much on average, it is everything. It is sad and disturbing that people are like that so much around here on average. :nervous:
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Well considering that California is both larger and more populated than most industrialized countries...
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...what does that say about American fuel efficiency?
Almost nothing. California != The United States of America. California = One of the fifty states of the United States of America.
Did you somehow miss two threads that berated generalizations in recent weeks?
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I think it means China hasn't had the pleasure of experiencing gridlock on highways yet.
Seriously I wonder how much of that is wasted sitting in traffic.
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Don't destroy California, I live there. Well, if you must destroy part of California, destroy everything north of Pismo Beach. That gets rid of both San Francisco and Sacramento.
(http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv359/BlueLion/Picture025.jpg)
What an evil looking place
(from my trip last year)
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Don't destroy California, I live there. Well, if you must destroy part of California, destroy everything north of Pismo Beach. That gets rid of both San Francisco and Sacramento.
Isn't that, y'know, the actually tolerable part of the state? :p
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Not where I'm from.
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San Francisco had some of the nicest people I've met on my travels around.
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Well, if you must destroy part of California, destroy everything north of Pismo Beach. That gets rid of both San Francisco and Sacramento.
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Welcome to Northern California: irrationally disdained since 1849
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Well, if you must destroy part of California, destroy everything north of Pismo Beach. That gets rid of both San Francisco and Sacramento.
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I told you not to move there. :p
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California also has a better economy than most of those listed nations. So...no surprise.
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California also has a better economy than most of those listed nations. So...no surprise.
You must admit though, with Arnie in charge, it's surely just a matter of time....
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Northern California is 5000X better than the southern parts.
LA is a ****hole, and San Fransisco is a beautiful place. Honestly.
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Look at the average standard of living in Cali vs. China though. And has everyone forgotten, that Cali is the WORLDS 6th largest economy, the one state, never mind the other 49.
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California also has a better economy than most of those listed nations. So...no surprise.
Strange, I heard it was suffering more than other states during the economic crisis very badly. It doesn't sound strong right now. Plus, you all should know that a strong economy isn't everything. There are other factores to consider, like health, safety, crime, pollution, politeness, etc.
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Most pictures I see of Chinese, Indian, Thais, ect a large portion of the population wear breathing filters because they're air is so dirty. It's easy to have no crime when the punishment for most of those crimes is to be thrown in a hole till you are dead. I will say that most of the countries in question do tend to have polite people in them.
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Well from what I watched and read, Texas likes to kill and goes overboard. I find Texas barbaric. I start to wonder why most people don't move out of Texas or any dangerous state or dangerous area of a state. Not to stray too off topic though.
There is no number 1. Most people think that about where they live or their country because most people are heavily influenced to think that way and were brought up to think that and may not explore deeply on how things are in other places and countries before deciding. This country tends to misunderstand other countries and make false stereotypes about them when in a lot of cases, certain countries are not the way many people here think. A lot of them aren't as bad off as people here may think. I feel that here, it can be quite bad off in many ways. Every country has pros and cons. It's the pros that one prefers over the cons that makes one like a certain place more than another.
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Every country has pros and cons. It's the pros that one prefers over the cons that makes one like a certain place more than another.
This.
I start to wonder why most people don't move out of Texas or any dangerous state or dangerous area of a state.
Because if you tried to move out of any area of any state that could be dangerous, you would end up moving out of the entire world.
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One more reason why California (the southern part, anyway) sucks.
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Hey! Don't diss Southern California, I live there! Northern California is just fine, especially since they have the Bay Area and Sacramento.
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California also has a better economy than most of those listed nations. So...no surprise.
You must admit though, with Arnie in charge, it's surely just a matter of time....
Don't diss the governator. The man has brains.
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Granted I don't live there, so I don't know exactly how the economy over there is doing, but Arnie's been in office for almost six years. If it was only a matter of time, it would probably have happened already. Leaving out that the end of his term is coming up.
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Well from what I watched and read, Texas likes to kill and goes overboard. I find Texas barbaric. I start to wonder why most people don't move out of Texas or any dangerous state or dangerous area of a state. Not to stray too off topic though.
You're making generalizations. You watched and read about how Texas likes to kill and go overboard, but people don't film or write about all of the normal parts because that's boring. In effect, people are deluded into thinking that an area is much more dangerous than it actually is. Granted, Texas isn't free of violence or anything...
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Strange, I heard it was suffering more than other states during the economic crisis very badly.
No actually it's suffering the cumulative effects of years of misrule. The economic issues are secondary. Regardless, it still has a stronger economy then most of the listed countries. From there, higher gas usage is almost a given.
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Well from what I watched and read, Texas likes to kill and goes overboard. I find Texas barbaric. I start to wonder why most people don't move out of Texas or any dangerous state or dangerous area of a state. Not to stray too off topic though.
Because there are other things to do in Texas besides watch executions. You know, like live life, moron.
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Well from what I watched and read, Texas likes to kill and goes overboard. I find Texas barbaric. I start to wonder why most people don't move out of Texas or any dangerous state or dangerous area of a state. Not to stray too off topic though.
Oh yes. We Texans love our killin'. So much so, that our murder rate (per capita) is actually lower than California. [/tic]*
Source:
http://www.disastercenter.com/crime/txcrime.htm (http://www.disastercenter.com/crime/txcrime.htm)
http://www.disastercenter.com/crime/cacrime.htm (http://www.disastercenter.com/crime/cacrime.htm)
*At least in 2007, which was the most recent year for which data was posted where I looked. I didn't try to look at previous years. And yes, I realize California may not be the best place to compare against, but since this thread is about California...
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Well from what I watched and read, Texas likes to kill and goes overboard. I find Texas barbaric. I start to wonder why most people don't move out of Texas or any dangerous state or dangerous area of a state. Not to stray too off topic though.
Because there are other things to do in Texas besides watch executions. You know, like live life, moron.
Consider how much of what you watch is made in California...
Anyways; the idea of the Wild West is a fun idea. You're just being a mindless idiot if you think any state is inherently the best or the worst. Every state has its positives and its negatives. Try going there and seeing what it's actually like before you go read some statistics and watch a Hollywood film or two. Texas is the 2nd most populated state in the country (California is 1st, New York is 3rd, Florida is 4th) and the political environment there supports the death penalty and the Right to Bear Arms. Going in the opposite direction, would-be thieves are thwarted by the average citizen instead of waiting for 10 minutes for a police car to arrive.
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Well from what I watched and read, Texas likes to kill and goes overboard. I find Texas barbaric. I start to wonder why most people don't move out of Texas or any dangerous state or dangerous area of a state. Not to stray too off topic though.
Because there are other things to do in Texas besides watch executions. You know, like live life, moron.
What's with the name calling, moron? I couldn't care less about Texas or people like you for that matter. I don't care for primitive uncivilized unhealthy unclean uneducated wild west ways of life anyways and I don't watch any western movies (boring). I guess this has to turn into something uncivil, right? Typical of general discussion threads. Mobius was right. I should not waste my time posting on this sub forum.
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Because there are other things to do in Texas besides watch executions. You know, like live life, moron.
What's with the name calling, moron? I couldn't care less about Texas or people like you for that matter. I don't care for primitive uncivilized unhealthy unclean uneducated wild west ways of life anyways and I don't watch any western movies (boring). I guess this has to turn into something uncivil, right? Typical of general discussion threads. Mobius was right. I should not waste my time on this sub forum.
If you hate flaming, clearly the best thing to do is to ignore the non-offensive and relatively well thought out post and head straight for the simplistic name calling post, pout, and then leave. [/sarcasm] :blah:
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Apparently, High Max is convinced that the current year is 1870.
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Mr. Vega done pushed the button. Good-bye thread discussion. You will be missed.
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Taking bets on when he comes back.
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Apparently, High Max is convinced that the current year is 1870.
And that all Texans are John Wayne.
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Mr. Vega done pushed the button. Good-bye thread discussion. You will be missed.
It's my opinion that name calling is ok if you explain exactly why you're calling them a name. That way they can't go purely ad-hominem when they retaliate and they actually have to make an argument. Which he failed to do, and you can't blame me for that.
And it was a stupid thing to say.
Oh, and please my dear, call me Vega. ;)
Hey! Don't diss Southern California, I live there! Northern California is just fine, especially since they have the Bay Area and Sacramento.
Sorry, I'm from Texas. It's in my blood to dislike California.
Now Oregon, on the other hand....
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There's a difference between Orange County and the rest of California. We vote Republican and support the Second Amendment. Plus we have some great beaches and some of the best looking 20-year-old women in the country.
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Sure sounds like DFW, aside from the beaches.
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There's a difference between Orange County and the rest of California. We vote Republican and support the Second Amendment. Plus we have some great beaches and some of the best looking 20-year-old women in the country.
Well those 20-year-old women are presumably all going to be leaving if you don't also have the best-looking 20-year-old men.
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Apparently, High Max is convinced that the current year is 1870.
And that all Texans are John Wayne.
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I am John Wayne and it is 1870.
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There's a difference between Orange County and the rest of California. We vote Republican and support the Second Amendment. Plus we have some great beaches and some of the best looking 20-year-old women in the country.
So basically, you have two completely contradictory things? :P
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What's so contradictory about my statement?
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best looking 20-year-old women in the country.
If you have a fetish for orange plastic.
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What's so contradictory about my statement?
Well, stereotypically Republicans are generally older (statistically true) and male (statistically true too.) :p
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Statistics a population do not make. If you could break a population down into nothing but statistics, then psychohistory would be viable.
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What's so contradictory about my statement?
As Battuta noted, however there is also the small matter that Republicans destroy great beaches, as has happened to my own county. :P
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this thread has gone on for two pages without discussng the topic and has degraded into a flame war
thread locked, filthy hippies!
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Statistics a population do not make. If you could break a population down into nothing but statistics, then psychohistory would be viable.
This is ignorance of simple mathematical fact. Statistics describe a population better than anything else. That's what they are: descriptions of population parameters. The fact that you don't like the statistics doesn't make them less true. And no, psychohistory has nothing to do with it, because that's predictive rather than descriptive, which requires a model.
Ack, thread is locked! :nervous: