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Title: FreeSpace Close-Quarters
Post by: dragonsniper on July 30, 2009, 11:46:47 am
I would like to inform those that don't already know, that FreeSpace Close-Quarters, a FPS (First Person Shooter) has come to be at Game-Warden. :)

You take the roll as a GTA marine during the first Great War. You get to do the usual, escort missions and such, but you mainly have the privileged of attacking and fending off rebel Terran attacks and Vasudan attacks. You may even get to see a Shivan or two. ;7

FS-CQ will be made on the HL2 (Half Life 2) engine, which IMO is one of the best FPS engines out there right now.

If you have any questions, here is the link to the forum:
http://www.game-warden.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=93 (http://www.game-warden.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=93)   

You can also ask questions here, but they may not be answered right away.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Close-Quarters
Post by: Krelus on August 01, 2009, 06:59:41 pm
I am following this. Intently.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Close-Quarters
Post by: Dilmah G on August 01, 2009, 10:44:14 pm
This'll be interesting, so long as you don't turn it into some kind of comical multiplayer fragfest like 1.6 (thought it has it's place), this'll be good :).
Title: Re: FreeSpace Close-Quarters
Post by: Krelus on August 02, 2009, 10:51:37 am
What'd make me squeal in fangirl-esque glee is if you made it some kind of ultra-tactical Republic Commando type game.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Close-Quarters
Post by: dragonsniper on August 02, 2009, 12:43:31 pm
This'll be interesting, so long as you don't turn it into some kind of comical multiplayer fragfest
That won't be happening. I'm still not sure if multilayer is going to happen at all.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Close-Quarters
Post by: Dilmah G on August 03, 2009, 09:28:22 am
Well fragfest was what I was really worried about. :P
Title: Re: FreeSpace Close-Quarters
Post by: Titan on August 04, 2009, 11:24:49 am
i loved republic commando. I played the demo OVER and OVER and OVER. Never got the full game tho.

Will you need to own HL2 to play this?
Title: Re: FreeSpace Close-Quarters
Post by: BS403 on August 04, 2009, 12:26:08 pm
First republic commando was a great game.
Edit: Second I have been hoping something like FS: CQ would happen for years now.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Close-Quarters
Post by: Thaeris on August 04, 2009, 04:54:02 pm
This is off-topic... though it does relate to ground combat...

Has anyone considered using DropTeam as a mod platform for FreeSpace?

Battlefront.com, DropTeam page: http://www.battlefront.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=blogcategory&id=92&Itemid=137

The game is basically designed to be modded, is by nature multi-platform, etc. It uses an advanced physics engine (despite its looks) and is multiplayer. There is a demo, too. I believe the demo is open enough that it itself can be altered. It also lets you just drop .obj or .3ds files into it with the appropriate flies to go with the model. It will also take straight-up .cob files, meaning existing models for FreeSpace could potentially be used without much conversion.

-Thaeris
Title: Re: FreeSpace Close-Quarters
Post by: dragonsniper on August 05, 2009, 09:54:10 am
Will you need to own HL2 to play this?
Yes you will need HL2 to play this.

A quick update: Currently playing around and learning Hammer, getting familiar with it's interface etc. The screenshots below could possibly be part of a tutorial mission due to it's simplicity. :)

And finally, here are the screenies. :)

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Title: Re: FreeSpace Close-Quarters
Post by: Snail on August 05, 2009, 10:26:42 am
Not very FreeSpacey. But it's a good start.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Close-Quarters
Post by: dragonsniper on August 05, 2009, 10:31:58 am
You mean the weapons, the fence in the frikin' middle of nowhere (I felt like putting there for fun) or everything together?
Title: Re: FreeSpace Close-Quarters
Post by: Dilmah G on August 05, 2009, 10:33:20 am
Looks good enough to me :).
Title: Re: FreeSpace Close-Quarters
Post by: Droid803 on August 05, 2009, 11:38:06 am
As long as you get the characters (ie. Terran Marine, Vasudan, Shivan) to look right, I think it'll be fine.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Close-Quarters
Post by: dragonsniper on August 05, 2009, 11:53:02 am
Do the soldiers in the bottom picture look anything like marines? Opinions?
Title: Re: FreeSpace Close-Quarters
Post by: Dragon on August 05, 2009, 11:55:38 am
My opinion is that this pic is too small to clearly see anything.
Though the mod looks promising.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Close-Quarters
Post by: dragonsniper on August 05, 2009, 12:18:30 pm
Here are some pictures of the various people that you can attack in HL2, so some of them may be used. Any of them look like marines/guards or soldiers that you would see on a Terran ship?

Picture1: Police officer/civilian enforcer.
Picture2: Nova soldiers (or something like that.)
Picture3: Combine soldiers (the ones in my last screenshot.)

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Title: Re: FreeSpace Close-Quarters
Post by: Snail on August 05, 2009, 12:38:48 pm
Those don't look anything like the marines we saw in Hallfight. :no:


The attached file has what they should look like.

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Title: Re: FreeSpace Close-Quarters
Post by: headdie on August 05, 2009, 12:46:49 pm
Snail has a point but i think the blue combine soldiers with "hard material" look Armour materials would make a better all purpose space marine
Title: Re: FreeSpace Close-Quarters
Post by: dragonsniper on August 05, 2009, 12:53:14 pm
As much as the combine soldiers don't look like the GTA marines from hallfight, could the look still be pulled off? IMHO, there isn't a huge difference between the combine soldier and the hallfight soldiers. Also, there may be other GTA marine outfits that we never see. I'm sure that the ones from the hallfight couldn't be the only ones.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Close-Quarters
Post by: Dragon on August 05, 2009, 12:55:51 pm
Maybe they can be used for security forces or regular ground soliders (in Hallfight we have seen space marines).
Title: Re: FreeSpace Close-Quarters
Post by: Krelus on August 05, 2009, 12:57:03 pm
I'm thinking perhaps a reskin of the white ones with a different head.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Close-Quarters
Post by: dragonsniper on August 05, 2009, 12:59:33 pm
I'm thinking perhaps a reskin of the white ones with a different head.
This one? All you would have to do is change it's mask (I think.) Not sure how to do that yet though. :)

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Title: Re: FreeSpace Close-Quarters
Post by: Thaeris on August 05, 2009, 02:05:54 pm
What about a Vasudan Marine? I assume he/she might look like a more heavily-armored pilot, maybe?

-Thaeris
Title: Re: FreeSpace Close-Quarters
Post by: Snail on August 05, 2009, 02:19:19 pm
I think the HL2 guys could work if their helmets were different.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Close-Quarters
Post by: dragonsniper on August 05, 2009, 02:25:24 pm
What about a Vasudan Marine? I assume he/she might look like a more heavily-armored pilot, maybe?
Possibly. I'm not sure yet. Would a Vasudan wear battle armor, or would they go around fighting like they normally look?

Title: Re: FreeSpace Close-Quarters
Post by: Colonol Dekker on August 05, 2009, 03:28:02 pm
Snail, where the ginger funk did you get that image from????
Title: Re: FreeSpace Close-Quarters
Post by: Thaeris on August 05, 2009, 11:33:08 pm
What about a Vasudan Marine? I assume he/she might look like a more heavily-armored pilot, maybe?
Possibly. I'm not sure yet. Would a Vasudan wear battle armor, or would they go around fighting like they normally look?



You don't go into battle naked... unless you're Celtic. In which case, you get to paint yourself blue  :D !

I assume Vasudans are pretty tough (as demonstrated by the "Terran pilot vs. Vasudan" clip), but they still need to carry equipment. Not to mention also that bullets/lasers/large balls of plasma/etc. are often sharp, fast, or volatile (explosive)... Sorry for the pointed joke, but I'd imagine that Vasudan troops would indeed wear such protection  :nod: .

-Thaeris
Title: Re: FreeSpace Close-Quarters
Post by: Snail on August 06, 2009, 06:38:18 am
Snail, where the ginger funk did you get that image from????
Not sure actually. It's from Volition. Might be one of the extras from the defunct Descent-Network site.

What about a Vasudan Marine? I assume he/she might look like a more heavily-armored pilot, maybe?
Possibly. I'm not sure yet. Would a Vasudan wear battle armor, or would they go around fighting like they normally look?
I guess a few unarmored Vasudans would be walking around if they were caught by surprise, but if they're marines I'm pretty sure they'd have armor of some kind.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Close-Quarters
Post by: dragonsniper on August 06, 2009, 08:24:54 am
Any clue to what kind of armor? I never saw them wearing any in the .ani files or in the FS2 cutscenes (need to go through the FS1 ones now I guess.)
Title: Re: FreeSpace Close-Quarters
Post by: Snail on August 06, 2009, 08:36:33 am
That's because we've never seen any Vasudan marines.

I imagine it might be similar to their flightsuits. See the "Command Briefing" cutscene from FreeSpace 1. There are a few Vasudans in the background
Title: Re: FreeSpace Close-Quarters
Post by: dragonsniper on August 06, 2009, 08:47:30 am
Thanks. I assume this is the correct one... cool armor, or whatever you want to call it. :D

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Title: Re: FreeSpace Close-Quarters
Post by: Thaeris on August 06, 2009, 10:54:35 am
That's the stuff! (now where the heck is the cream filling?)

Now if it's just "beefed up" a little with some additional plates, etc., you should have a nasty surprise in store for those foolish GTA Roughnecks. If plates are an option, I'm almost thinking that they might be similar in appearance to the Horus' external plating... at least the HTL Horus. Perhaps it's time to whip out the sketch pad...

-Thaeris
Title: Re: FreeSpace Close-Quarters
Post by: dragonsniper on August 06, 2009, 11:25:48 am
Perhaps it's time to whip out the sketch pad...
Na. I can't draw to save my life. If you want to sketch something out though, go right ahead. :)
Title: Re: FreeSpace Close-Quarters
Post by: Krelus on August 06, 2009, 04:02:47 pm
Perhaps it's time to whip out the sketch pad...
Na. I can't draw to save my life. If you want to sketch something out though, go right ahead. :)

I'd be more than happy to give it a stab, but I'm not terribly good at doing things that look both freeform and hi-tech. But heck, I never will be if I never try, so what the hell. I'll start by adapting WH40k Eldar armor to Vasudan physiology (minus the absurd helmets) and go from there. Hell, the Wraithlords already have the same basic shape.

I don't like the idea of Vasudans wearing super-clunky armor. We'll see where this goes.

(http://www.games-workshop.com/MEDIA_CustomProductCatalog/m430265_front_pic.jpg)
Title: Re: FreeSpace Close-Quarters
Post by: dragonsniper on August 06, 2009, 04:18:53 pm
Go right ahead. :yes: Hoping to see the outcome soon.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Close-Quarters
Post by: Snail on August 06, 2009, 04:30:45 pm
Since this is the Great War... (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/2c/FS_Concept_Art.jpg)

That Vasudan could work... Probably better for a pilot than a marine, but blah.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Close-Quarters
Post by: dragonsniper on August 06, 2009, 05:21:59 pm
Still, thanks for the art. All I would have to do is beef up the armor on the Vasudan and it may work as a Marine...
Title: Re: FreeSpace Close-Quarters
Post by: Dilmah G on August 07, 2009, 05:16:10 am
Give it some pwetty cowours. :)
Title: Re: FreeSpace Close-Quarters
Post by: Colonol Dekker on August 07, 2009, 05:45:02 am
Desert camo no longer required. Lol.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Close-Quarters
Post by: lostllama on August 07, 2009, 03:16:59 pm
Hmm. I believe Krallis was in the process of making an FS-themed mod for Unreal III. He posted a few shots of the marine he was making last November. I'd provide a link to the thread, but the pics are no longer there.

Edit: They were shots of a Terran marine. I think he might even have modelled a weapon or two but I'm not totally sure.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Close-Quarters
Post by: dragonsniper on August 08, 2009, 08:48:40 am
Thanks. Maybe I'll send him a PM and see what he's done. Not sure if it will get through to him though. He hasn't been around since mid March. Anyhow, thanks. :)
Title: Re: FreeSpace Close-Quarters
Post by: SPARTAN-367 on August 08, 2009, 10:57:40 am
better have coop also!
Title: Re: FreeSpace Close-Quarters
Post by: dragonsniper on August 08, 2009, 12:17:10 pm
better have coop also!
Multiplayer co-op? We'll see...
Title: Re: FreeSpace Close-Quarters
Post by: Krelus on August 08, 2009, 01:01:54 pm
Ugh, this may take longer than expected. For some bizarre reason, Vasudan anatomy - especially the legs - is giving me a nightmare of a time. Seriously, they're built like an ATST on crack...
Title: Re: FreeSpace Close-Quarters
Post by: dragonsniper on August 08, 2009, 01:23:41 pm
Seriously, they're built like an ATST on crack...
:lol:

Ugh, this may take longer than expected. For some bizarre reason, Vasudan anatomy - especially the legs - is giving me a nightmare of a time.
Take your time.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Close-Quarters
Post by: SPARTAN-367 on August 10, 2009, 12:44:36 pm
Ugh, this may take longer than expected. For some bizarre reason, Vasudan anatomy - especially the legs - is giving me a nightmare of a time. Seriously, they're built like an ATST on crack...
:lol:
Title: Re: FreeSpace Close-Quarters
Post by: headdie on August 11, 2009, 03:13:59 am
Ugh, this may take longer than expected. For some bizarre reason, Vasudan anatomy - especially the legs - is giving me a nightmare of a time. Seriously, they're built like an ATST on crack...

now i think i understand why there is so few scenes showing moving Vasudans
Title: Re: FreeSpace Close-Quarters
Post by: Galemp on August 11, 2009, 12:23:24 pm
You might want to have a look at the Protoss from Starcraft II as well. They and the Vasudans have a lot of similarities.

I do have a moderately detailed Vasudan head here, as well as a body in progress, and some other odds and ends. There's a lot here and I think it should help you.

Clicky goodness! (http://freespaceport.googlepages.com/Vasudan.zip)

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Title: Re: FreeSpace Close-Quarters
Post by: Krelus on August 11, 2009, 02:54:39 pm
Thanks. I probably won't be able to get much done on this until at least Thursday, things have suddenly gotten quite zany for me at the moment -_-
Title: Re: FreeSpace Close-Quarters
Post by: dragonsniper on August 11, 2009, 03:27:20 pm
Thanks. I probably won't be able to get much done on this until at least Thursday, things have suddenly gotten quite zany for me at the moment -_-
Like I said, no rush whatsoever. :)
Title: Re: FreeSpace Close-Quarters
Post by: dragonsniper on January 28, 2010, 07:30:36 pm
Thanks. I probably won't be able to get much done on this until at least Thursday, things have suddenly gotten quite zany for me at the moment -_-
I don't assume that you have any updates on that Vasudan, do you?  :p
Title: Re: FreeSpace Close-Quarters
Post by: est1895 on January 31, 2010, 10:39:31 pm
Should I look for The Orange Box or just Half Life 2?  :nod:
Title: Re: FreeSpace Close-Quarters
Post by: General Battuta on February 01, 2010, 12:25:00 am
If you're looking the play HL2? The Orange Box, definitely.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Close-Quarters
Post by: dragonsniper on February 01, 2010, 08:25:05 am
Should I look for The Orange Box or just Half Life 2?  :nod:
Depends. If you want to play the game for fun (just Half life 2) then the Orange box would be great, since it comes with a lot of other great games. But if you wanted to know for this mod (if it gets released  :p) then just standard HL2 would work. Ofcourse, your more than welcome to help if you want.  :)
Title: Re: FreeSpace Close-Quarters
Post by: est1895 on February 01, 2010, 04:02:52 pm
What kind of game is The Orange Box?  Is it gorey?   :headz:  Like this?
Title: Re: FreeSpace Close-Quarters
Post by: Stormkeeper on February 01, 2010, 05:38:53 pm
It's a HL2 Compilation with Portal and TF2.
Title: Re: FreeSpace Close-Quarters
Post by: dragonsniper on February 01, 2010, 06:57:04 pm
It's a HL2 Compilation with Portal and TF2.
Yes. TF1 also, right??? Basically, it's a collection of the newer games by Valve. And yes, some of them are bloody in places (but most FPS are now days.)
Title: Re: FreeSpace Close-Quarters
Post by: Aardwolf on February 01, 2010, 10:49:49 pm
There are vasudans in pilot gear in the Taranis briefing cutscene...
Title: Re: FreeSpace Close-Quarters
Post by: dragonsniper on February 02, 2010, 11:27:24 am
There are vasudans in pilot gear in the Taranis briefing cutscene...
Yes there are. Going from that picture to a different engine and getting it to actually work is easier said than done though.