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Title: New Creation
Post by: Ryx on April 01, 2002, 05:13:53 am
Something I made the other day.
I'm thinking about making three versions. Carrier, Destroyer and Battleship. Kinda like what they've done in Reciprocity(sp?).
The Hull will have to have minor changes made, of course, but here's the basic design.

(http://w1.520.telia.com/~u52019065/New/Top2.jpg)
(http://w1.520.telia.com/~u52019065/New/back2.jpg)
(http://w1.520.telia.com/~u52019065/New/bottom2.jpg)
(http://w1.520.telia.com/~u52019065/New/lower2.jpg)

Fire away!
Title: New Creation
Post by: Kamikaze on April 01, 2002, 05:19:22 am
Looks like it'd be best as a Carrier
nice design :)
Title: New Creation
Post by: Julia on April 01, 2002, 05:20:56 am
Yeah, looks like a carrier.  Reminds me of the Homeworld mothership.
Title: New Creation
Post by: Setekh on April 01, 2002, 05:26:05 am
Me likes. Reminds me of the GTD Warhammer. :)
Title: New Creation
Post by: Ryx on April 01, 2002, 05:48:59 am
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Originally posted by Setekh
Me likes. Reminds me of the GTD Warhammer. :)


Warhammer?
Title: New Creation
Post by: 15thRampage on April 01, 2002, 06:43:23 am
wow, i think here is a long list of fan made ships, we shoud have a fan made ship name list database, so ppl can fin any available name, that way we can't have 2 diferent ship with the same name
Title: New Creation
Post by: TheCelestialOne on April 01, 2002, 06:50:29 am
Looks very good. And I think a Carrier would be the best choice here.:D
Title: New Creation
Post by: Styxx on April 01, 2002, 07:31:14 am
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Originally posted by Setekh
Me likes. Reminds me of the GTD Warhammer. :)


Thought the same thing... the front of the model, specially.

And Ryx, how come you don't know the Warhammer (http://terra.sourceforge.net/featured/fp-large003.jpg)?!? :D
Title: New Creation
Post by: Ryx on April 01, 2002, 07:42:37 am
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Originally posted by Styxx


Thought the same thing... the front of the model, specially.

And Ryx, how come you don't know the Warhammer (http://terra.sourceforge.net/featured/fp-large003.jpg)?!? :D


My MT knowledge is rusty. When Setekh commented on the similarity between the two, I searched the forums for more info. Didn't really find any.

Don't suppose you have a clearer pic?
Title: New Creation
Post by: Styxx on April 01, 2002, 08:08:02 am
Hm, not right here. Lemme see if I can find one...
Title: Re: New Creation
Post by: aldo_14 on April 01, 2002, 09:13:26 am
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Originally posted by Ryx
Something I made the other day.
I'm thinking about making three versions. Carrier, Destroyer and Battleship. Kinda like what they've done in Reciprocity(sp?)


Eh?
Title: New Creation
Post by: Corsair on April 01, 2002, 09:19:39 am
Without the top bumps it could easily be the deck to a modern aircraft carrier. It should definitely be a carrier!

Asking this question for Hanger Man: Will it have hangers that you can fly into? :D

Nice model.
Title: New Creation
Post by: mikhael on April 01, 2002, 09:24:25 am
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Originally posted by 15thRampage
wow, i think here is a long list of fan made ships, we shoud have a fan made ship name list database, so ppl can fin any available name, that way we can't have 2 diferent ship with the same name


It wouldn't be too hard to throw something like this together with some PHP, an Apache webserver and PostgreSQL on the backend. I think this is an excellent idea.
Title: New Creation
Post by: Styxx on April 01, 2002, 09:26:33 am
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Originally posted by mikhael
It wouldn't be too hard to throw something like this together with some PHP, an Apache webserver and PostgreSQL on the backend. I think this is an excellent idea.


Give me a server with Tomcat and any database, and you have that in five minutes. ;)
Title: Re: Re: New Creation
Post by: Ryx on April 01, 2002, 09:58:44 am
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Originally posted by aldo_14


Eh?


The fact that Segomo and Rosmerta were described as sister-classes, for me (somehow), translated into the same basic hull design with variations for their respective role.


Perhaps I'm wrong? :o
Title: New Creation
Post by: mikhael on April 01, 2002, 10:28:42 am
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Originally posted by Styxx


Give me a server with Tomcat and any database, and you have that in five minutes. ;)


Which one is Tomcat? I have to admit, when it comes to non-IIS web serving, I don't know much beyond keeping the machines alive and well.  :lol:
Title: New Creation
Post by: Styxx on April 01, 2002, 10:31:26 am
Tomcat, the Java Servlet Container/JSP Space from the Jakarta Project, which is in turn part of the Apache project. :nod:
Title: New Creation
Post by: mikhael on April 01, 2002, 10:37:17 am
*heh* See I could do the same thing on an IIS/2k box in about 5 minutes, but I wouldn't respect myself in the morning. ;)

That's not true. Right now my own website runs on IIS4/NT4 (though, hopefully not much longer. I should be moving to an apache server on FreeBSD sometime soon).
Title: New Creation
Post by: Styxx on April 01, 2002, 10:39:08 am
Tomcat can be used as a web server too, though it needs Apache if you're working with large server loads. And it's damn easy to install - unpack everything, adjust a couple of environment settings, maybe edit one XML file, and run the startup sequence. VoilĂ . :)
Title: New Creation
Post by: WMCoolmon on April 01, 2002, 02:18:06 pm
*Looks at the picture* Seems a bit flat to me, but it does look more durable rather than artsy...I'd like to see it textured :nod:
Title: New Creation
Post by: Ryx on April 02, 2002, 05:26:46 am
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Originally posted by WMCoolmon
*Looks at the picture* Seems a bit flat to me, but it does look more durable rather than artsy...I'd like to see it textured :nod:


Patience(sp?)

It was going to resemble an Orion to begin with, but it didn't turn out that way.
Right now it is about the size of an Orion (lenght wise).
Should I make it bigger?
Title: New Creation
Post by: Nico on April 02, 2002, 05:35:24 am
no
Title: Re: Re: Re: New Creation
Post by: aldo_14 on April 02, 2002, 06:07:43 am
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Originally posted by Ryx


The fact that Segomo and Rosmerta were described as sister-classes, for me (somehow), translated into the same basic hull design with variations for their respective role.


Perhaps I'm wrong? :o


well, they're not really similar atall..... just the same rough tech level, and intended to complement each other

(http://www.3dap.com/hlp/hosted/reciprocity/images/rosmerta.gif)

(http://www.3dap.com/hlp/hosted/reciprocity/images/segomo.gif)

Anyway, it's a nice ship, but I think it needs abit of variation in the shape and the surfaces...even just a few recessed areas, create a bit of contrast.

Depnds what the polycount is, though, and you also have scope for big turrets, or destroyable subsystems on the flat ares (depending on ship size & relative scale)
Title: Re: Re: Re: Re: New Creation
Post by: Ryx on April 02, 2002, 08:03:27 am
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Originally posted by aldo_14

...Depnds what the polycount is, though, and you also have scope for big turrets, or destroyable subsystems on the flat ares (depending on ship size & relative scale)


Polycounts at 230
Title: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: New Creation
Post by: aldo_14 on April 02, 2002, 08:25:46 am
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Originally posted by Ryx


Polycounts at 230


Plebnty of room them :).  If you don't want to alter the basic structure, then just add more fine, inset details.

Or you could stick at your current polycount and add a lot of destroyable deck objects, like radar dishes, storage pods, turrets(obviously), or even large areas of geometry, like a bridge tower :)
Title: New Creation
Post by: Ryx on April 02, 2002, 08:34:36 am
I'll play around with it and see what happens. ;)
Title: New Creation
Post by: aldo_14 on April 02, 2002, 08:42:50 am
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Originally posted by Ryx
I'll play around with it and see what happens. ;)


Here's an idea.....

coat the surface (where appropriate) with low-poly models, even plain boxes, with very low hitpoints.  That way, you can strafe them, and wath them blow to bits with every run ;) ;7

Of course, you have to take into account the unfeasible number of subsystems required - that would all be targetable.... :devilidea:
Title: New Creation
Post by: Stunaep on April 02, 2002, 09:32:47 am
Looks like a carrier to me.
Title: New Creation
Post by: Galemp on April 02, 2002, 10:02:02 am
Reminds me of the PVFr Satis. :yes: I like it.
Title: New Creation
Post by: Reaper on April 02, 2002, 11:36:58 am
Hehe, it looks like a frigate 2 me :p . BTW the textured looks like carrier for me :p
Title: New Creation
Post by: Ryx on April 02, 2002, 11:50:55 am
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Originally posted by Infested_Larva
Hehe, it looks like a frigate 2 me :p . BTW the textured looks like carrier for me :p


It isn't textured. I did apply a map so it would look better, that's all.
Title: New Creation
Post by: Ryx on April 03, 2002, 12:12:05 pm
OK, played with it and it didn't turn out to bad. I'm still not happy with it, but generally ok.
(http://w1.520.telia.com/~u52019065/New/back3.jpg)
(http://w1.520.telia.com/~u52019065/New/bottom3.jpg)
(http://w1.520.telia.com/~u52019065/New/lower3.jpg)
(http://w1.520.telia.com/~u52019065/New/top3.jpg)

hmmm.... yes.
Title: New Creation
Post by: Zeronet on April 03, 2002, 12:15:56 pm
You could give it a hanger that you can land inside.
Title: New Creation
Post by: Ryx on April 03, 2002, 12:26:56 pm
Just in case the hangars aren't visible enough.

(http://w1.520.telia.com/~u52019065/New/hangar1.jpg)
Title: New Creation
Post by: Zeronet on April 03, 2002, 12:45:20 pm
It has my STAMP of approval :D
Title: New Creation
Post by: Bobboau on April 03, 2002, 01:34:15 pm
I was thinking it looked more like a freighter to me
Title: New Creation
Post by: Ryx on April 03, 2002, 01:47:10 pm
Size comparison
(http://w1.520.telia.com/~u52019065/persp1.jpg)

Quote
Originally posted by Bobboau
I was thinking it looked more like a freighter to me


hmm.
No Here's a freighter (http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/topic,6249.0.html), though. Need to redesign the cargo/container thing. :sigh:
Title: New Creation
Post by: Zeronet on April 03, 2002, 05:07:11 pm
Thats big.
Title: New Creation
Post by: Nico on April 03, 2002, 06:43:35 pm
yeah, i would make it much smaller I think, as broad as the orion, rather than as long.
Title: New Creation
Post by: Galemp on April 03, 2002, 07:03:15 pm
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Originally posted by venom2506
yeah, i would make it much smaller I think, as broad as the orion, rather than as long.


:nod: It's too flat for a destroyer, methinks. The detail is just right for a good, largish cruiser.
Title: New Creation
Post by: an0n on April 03, 2002, 08:15:22 pm
Make it truly immense and have it as the GTVA mobile command.
Title: New Creation
Post by: Anaz on April 03, 2002, 09:04:23 pm
in that little joint where the deck thing attaches to the hull, give it four huge guns, think BFRed...except for terrans...mebby BGreens would be enough...
Title: New Creation
Post by: LtNarol on April 03, 2002, 09:14:47 pm
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Originally posted by aldo_14


Here's an idea.....

coat the surface (where appropriate) with low-poly models, even plain boxes, with very low hitpoints.  That way, you can strafe them, and wath them blow to bits with every run ;) ;7

Of course, you have to take into account the unfeasible number of subsystems required - that would all be targetable.... :devilidea:

Is it not possible to make a subobject nonselectable?
Title: New Creation
Post by: Ryx on April 04, 2002, 02:35:50 am
Quote
Originally posted by venom2506
yeah, i would make it much smaller I think, as broad as the orion, rather than as long.


It is a bit large perhaps, but making it as wide as an Orion is a bit too small. Large hangars, you know. ;)
Title: New Creation
Post by: Setekh on April 04, 2002, 07:09:05 am
Quote
Originally posted by Ryx
OK, played with it and it didn't turn out to bad. I'm still not happy with it, but generally ok.
(http://w1.520.telia.com/~u52019065/New/back3.jpg)


I like the way that's shaping up. :nod:
Title: New Creation
Post by: Ryx on April 04, 2002, 07:39:17 am
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Originally posted by Setekh


I like the way that's shaping up. :nod:


When I was altering it, yesterday, the profile reminded me of a duck.  :D
It still looks a little like one, but not nearly as bad.

More tweakage will follow. ;)
Title: New Creation
Post by: Ryx on April 07, 2002, 04:48:35 am
(http://w1.520.telia.com/~u52019065/New/bis1.jpg)
(http://w1.520.telia.com/~u52019065/New/bis2.jpg)
(http://w1.520.telia.com/~u52019065/New/bis3.jpg)
(http://w1.520.telia.com/~u52019065/New/bis4.jpg)
(http://w1.520.telia.com/~u52019065/New/bis5.jpg)

A small Render (http://w1.520.telia.com/~u52019065/New/bisr800.jpg). ;)
Title: New Creation
Post by: Stunaep on April 07, 2002, 12:43:57 pm
This looks even better with textures!!!:jaw: :jaw: :jaw:
Title: New Creation
Post by: Nico on April 07, 2002, 01:07:05 pm
the tiling is terrible, sory to say. use a map that doesn't have some dark stuff that will make your ship look like a zebra ;)
Title: New Creation
Post by: Ryx on April 07, 2002, 01:23:20 pm
Quote
Originally posted by venom2506
the tiling is terrible, sory to say. use a map that doesn't have some dark stuff that will make your ship look like a zebra ;)

:lol:


I'll work on it. And yes, the tilings an issue.
Title: New Creation
Post by: CODEDOG ND on April 11, 2002, 05:15:28 pm
lets us know when it is converted some of us might like to use it.
Title: New Creation
Post by: Ryx on April 12, 2002, 11:27:21 am
Sadly, I can't convert. :(

If you want it, tell me, and I'll send you the texes + a few versions of the model, that might work as suitable LODS (in .3ds format).
Title: New Creation
Post by: Setekh on April 12, 2002, 11:30:48 am
Convert? From what-to-what?
Title: New Creation
Post by: Ryx on April 12, 2002, 11:43:48 am
.3ds to .cob is no problem. (3DE)

It's really all the trueSpace-stuff. I open up trueSpace (now uninstalled) and I try to do stuff, but I can't find s*** in ts. Subsequently, my patience only lasts for a few a minutes.