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Title: Final Fantasy:TSW
Post by: Zeronet on April 01, 2002, 11:56:44 am
Brilliant, one of the best DVD's i,ve bought. I dont see whats wrong with the story, i liked it.
Title: Final Fantasy:TSW
Post by: Styxx on April 01, 2002, 12:06:09 pm
It's a cool movie, I liked it a lot too... :nod:
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Post by: Gortef on April 01, 2002, 01:07:43 pm
same here, that DVD is truly one genuine gem in my DVD collection :nod:
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Post by: Styxx on April 01, 2002, 01:17:49 pm
What kind of extras does the DVD have?
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Post by: WMCoolmon on April 01, 2002, 01:19:34 pm
Good CGI, but the plot was only so-so IMHO...I guess we'll just have to wait for AOTC :drevil:
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Post by: Styxx on April 01, 2002, 01:23:47 pm
AOTC?
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Post by: WMCoolmon on April 01, 2002, 01:24:58 pm
http://www.starwars.com/episode-ii/
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Post by: Styxx on April 01, 2002, 01:29:58 pm
Ah, you meant When Clones Attack... :D :p
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Post by: Zeronet on April 01, 2002, 01:33:35 pm
The DVD has too much to list.(Well the bonus DVD anyway). I,ve not checked any of it out yet though. I think the plot was original and very cool.
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Post by: Styxx on April 01, 2002, 01:35:22 pm
Making of and that kind of stuff or cool extra scenes? :D
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Post by: Gortef on April 01, 2002, 01:35:38 pm
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Originally posted by Styxx
What kind of extras does the DVD have?


which one... it has 2 DVD's

the one that has the movie has in fact the movie twice, exept that the "extra" version shows how the models have "evolved" from box shaped figures into quite realistic ones... I can't explain it better in english :o

the other DVD has quite a lot of stuff in it :nod:
Comments
Documentary
Art
Bloopers
etc.
etc.
etc.
and "Thriller" :D
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Post by: Styxx on April 01, 2002, 01:37:57 pm
Kewl. Gotta get it now. The problem will be to find a Region 1 DVD around here... stupid regional settings.
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Post by: WMCoolmon on April 01, 2002, 01:53:23 pm
Bloopers? *perks up* :D
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Post by: Nico on April 01, 2002, 02:20:55 pm
You should have this very funny sequence, the characters of the movie replaying the clip of Thriller ( Mickael Jackson) :nod:
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Post by: Styxx on April 01, 2002, 02:25:23 pm
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Originally posted by venom2506
You should have this very funny sequence, the characters of the movie replaying the clip of Thriller ( Mickael Jackson) :nod:


I heard of that. I'll see if I can rent the DVD tonight... :nod:
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Post by: WMCoolmon on April 01, 2002, 02:28:45 pm
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Originally posted by venom2506
You should have this very funny sequence, the characters of the movie replaying the clip of Thriller ( Mickael Jackson) :nod:

That's no blooper! :p
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Post by: Gortef on April 01, 2002, 02:30:08 pm
I'll keep my thumbs up for you ;7:yes:

good luck for the hunt
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Post by: Styxx on April 01, 2002, 02:47:18 pm
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Originally posted by Gortef
I'll keep my thumbs up for you ;7:yes:

good luck for the hunt


I know a place that should have it... the question is if I'll have time to go after it.
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Post by: JR2000Z on April 01, 2002, 04:28:39 pm
I enjoyed the Aki Ross bikini video. :)

The FF/Michel Jackson Helloween video is also pretty good.
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Post by: Styxx on April 01, 2002, 04:42:07 pm
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Originally posted by JR2000Z
I enjoyed the Aki Ross bikini video. :)


I kinda expected that... :p
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Post by: Anaz on April 01, 2002, 05:07:43 pm
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Originally posted by JR2000Z
I enjoyed the Aki Ross bikini video. :)


:lol: didn't know they had one
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Post by: Kamikaze on April 01, 2002, 06:11:05 pm
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Originally posted by Styxx
Kewl. Gotta get it now. The problem will be to find a Region 1 DVD around here... stupid regional settings.


This is why you get a DVD player with regional coding bypass in it :D
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Post by: Zeronet on April 01, 2002, 06:13:16 pm
I got my DVD player today, it plays MP3s as well.
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Post by: an0n on April 01, 2002, 06:40:32 pm
Where the hell are those Face Wraparounds on the bonus CD?

And the best bit on the whole DVD is the outtakes. Like when Gray tries to jump through the window or when he trips and blows Akis brains out.
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Post by: Shrike on April 01, 2002, 06:42:23 pm
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Originally posted by Kamikaze
This is why you get a DVD player with regional coding bypass in it :D
I don't think they make PS2s with regional bypass systems. ;)
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Post by: Zeronet on April 01, 2002, 07:06:18 pm
PS2 DVD aint that good anyway.
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Post by: delta_7890 on April 01, 2002, 08:26:54 pm
But it's good for us cheap bastards who don't want to buy a real DVD player
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Post by: Kamikaze on April 01, 2002, 09:01:14 pm
I have a PS2 and a DVD player :p

*points and laughs* ;) (don't take that too harshly...)

......
Okay fine, not mine but still :p
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Post by: Mr. Vega on April 01, 2002, 09:19:41 pm
Nintendo was a stupid as hell not to give the Gamecube the ability to play DVDs.
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Post by: Kamikaze on April 01, 2002, 09:22:03 pm
Ahem...
what's this?
(http://www.infosatellite.com/images/articlepics/gamecube_dvd-game.jpg)
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Post by: JR2000Z on April 01, 2002, 09:37:51 pm
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Originally posted by Kamikaze
I have a PS2 and a DVD player :p

*points and laughs* ;) (don't take that too harshly...)

......
Okay fine, not mine but still :p



I got a PS2, a DVD player, and a DVD ROM. :p

*points and laughs* (Take it harshly. ;) )
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Post by: Nico on April 02, 2002, 12:03:01 am
I got... her... I got Kazaa and a CD burner!!!! Now there!!! :ha: :ha: :ha:
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Post by: Kamikaze on April 02, 2002, 12:09:38 am
.... I've got ummm..... Rush Hour 2... so ummm yeah! :D

*resists urge to play it on comp...*
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Post by: Gortef on April 02, 2002, 01:09:37 am
I've got a region free DVD-Rom so :ha:

(ok, I guess many others have too)
(and a CD burner)
(and a banana)
(well, now I don't have a banana, but wait untill I get to the store so :ha: )

edit: Speaking of Aki Ross... guess what my real name is :p
(and I'm male)
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Post by: Setekh on April 02, 2002, 03:41:51 am
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Originally posted by WMCoolmon
Good CGI, but the plot was only so-so IMHO...


If it's ANYTHING like the rest of the FFs... all you have to do is play it, frame by frame, another ten times to yourself, and you'll understand all the plot has to offer. Bonus characters, limit breaks, everything. :D
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Post by: Nico on April 02, 2002, 04:31:32 am
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Originally posted by Setekh


If it's ANYTHING like the rest of the FFs... all you have to do is play it, frame by frame, another ten times to yourself, and you'll understand all the plot has to offer. Bonus characters, limit breaks, everything. :D


I guess it's not like the games, coz I liked the movie very much :p
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Post by: Setekh on April 02, 2002, 04:45:37 am
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Originally posted by venom2506
I guess it's not like the games, coz I liked the movie very much :p


Hey, I liked VII a lot. :D
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Post by: Nico on April 02, 2002, 05:13:32 am
played the demo on PC. Man I hate when I'm thrown in fights w/o a single warning
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Post by: Setekh on April 02, 2002, 05:18:03 am
That's the fun of it. Wait till you get to all the high-power enemies and super attacks... it's damn fun. And the storyline, of course, is brilliant. :)
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Post by: Styxx on April 02, 2002, 06:56:52 am
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Originally posted by Kamikaze
I have a PS2 and a DVD player :p

*points and laughs* ;) (don't take that too harshly...)


I won't - I just don't get a DVD player 'cause I don't want one. Not right now anyway - I'll wait till I get to a new apartment to set up a kickass home theater system. ;)
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Post by: Gortef on April 02, 2002, 12:05:24 pm
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Originally posted by Setekh


Hey, I liked VII a lot. :D


Same here... and of course as you said the storyline was absolutely fantastic :nod:
Man did I enjoy when I got Omnishlash for Cloud :D
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Post by: Stunaep on April 02, 2002, 12:09:58 pm
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Originally posted by JR2000Z
I enjoyed the Aki Ross bikini video. :)
 


I SOOOOOO knew, that someone was gonna say that sooner or later.
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Post by: Zeronet on April 02, 2002, 12:13:29 pm
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Originally posted by Setekh
That's the fun of it. Wait till you get to all the high-power enemies and super attacks... it's damn fun. And the storyline, of course, is brilliant. :)


IMHO the story was one of the really good things about the movie, i guess its something they took from the games.
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Post by: JR2000Z on April 02, 2002, 01:21:34 pm
FF VII was the gayest FF ever.

FF VIII is one of my favorates

FF IX is decent.

FF X  is pretty good.
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Post by: Styxx on April 02, 2002, 01:30:14 pm
Bah, FFIV was the best ever! The latest ones just have better graphics... :p
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Post by: aldo_14 on April 02, 2002, 01:30:26 pm
I have FFIV on a SNES emulatir simewhere...it's pretty addictive ;)
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Post by: Kamikaze on April 02, 2002, 07:29:05 pm
Hey here's all I've played :D:

FF1: ummm, 32 bit colors are A1-Supar :p
FF2: See above
FF3: The grandaddy of FFV
FF4: Nice :yes: love it - a classic
FF5: Major Suckage - right here
FF6: Great, Great and Great - Love the 4 character Ultima rounds :D
FF7: Fun but not a favorite.
FF8: I like, nice and mature. A favorite.
FF9: Decent
FF10: Pretty Graphics *drools*
FFMysticQuest: Desecration to Square :no:

Oh, and additionally

CT: :yes::yes::yes:
CC: I love the ending!!!
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Post by: Nico on April 02, 2002, 08:26:22 pm
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Originally posted by Kamikaze
Hey here's all I've played :D:

FF1: ummm, 32 bit colors are A1-Supar :p
FF2: See above
FF3: The grandaddy of FFV
FF4: Nice :yes: love it - a classic
FF5: Major Suckage - right here
FF6: Great, Great and Great - Love the 4 character Ultima rounds :D
FF7: Fun but not a favorite.
FF8: I like, nice and mature. A favorite.
FF9: Decent
FF10: Pretty Graphics *drools*
FFMysticQuest: Desecration to Square :no:

Oh, and additionally

CT: :yes::yes::yes:
CC: I love the ending!!!


hey! don't diss MysticQuest, it's the only console RPG I played ( and I enjoyed it, too), on gameboy :)
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Post by: JR2000Z on April 02, 2002, 08:26:34 pm
It seems like the only word to decribe FF IX is 'decent'.
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Post by: Zeronet on April 02, 2002, 08:39:44 pm
FF9 was decent, it was set in the past and thus not as good as the others IMO.
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Post by: mikhael on April 02, 2002, 08:41:19 pm
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Originally posted by venom2506


hey! don't diss MysticQuest, it's the only console RPG I played ( and I enjoyed it, too), on gameboy :)


Um... Final Fantasy MysticQuest was a console title. You may be thinking of FinalFantasy Adventure or FinalFantasy Legends. Neither series was actually Final Fantasy.

One was actually Seiken Densetsu (FF Adventure). Secret of Mana and Legend of Man (and the fan translated Seiken Densetsu II) were other games from this series. Common elements were the Mana Tree, the Mana Fortress, the Gemma Knights, 'action' oriented game play and 'companion' characters. Square of America took this style of game and produced the unrelated (beyond basic style) Secret of Evermore. Notably Secret of Evermore was the first time Nintendo, on either side of the ocean, used Silicon Graphics machines to design in game elements. They hyped this entirely too much.

The other I cannot recall what series Final Fantasy Legends was in Japan, but it is one of my favorites. I own all of them around here somewhere. :)

Final Fantasy V was an absolute masterwork of a game, in my opinion. It was one of Square's 'system' games in the FF series. The system it pioneered saw reuse in, among other things, Final Fantasy Tactics and Final Fantasy X.

Final Fantasy IX was a great game, but it was just a 'story' game and did not seek in any way to innovate, but rather to celebrate all the games that came before it. In this, it succeeded quite well, containing many back references, both visually and audibly. The only things I didn't like about FFX was how easy it was (way way too easy) and the Star Wars quote. That just didn't seem to fit.

Oh, and, in my opinion, no Final Fantasy will ever outdo Final Fantasy VI for raw emotional power, storytelling, epic sweep and pure granduer. It also had kickass game play. Final Fantasy X comes close on the everything except epic sweep and gameplay. It has Granduer, emotional power and storytelling aplenty. :)
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Post by: Kamikaze on April 02, 2002, 08:42:20 pm
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Originally posted by venom2506


hey! don't diss MysticQuest, it's the only console RPG I played ( and I enjoyed it, too), on gameboy :)


You're missing out on a lot :D

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It seems like the only word to decribe FF IX is 'decent'.


Well here's the list of decency:
1. soso plot
2. nice characters - some of them
3. No Uber-spells (Arc sucks, so does Melton)
4. Bleah

That sums it up :p

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FF9 was decent, it was set in the past and thus not as good as the others IMO.


Try Chrono Cross - it was kind of a mix of future and past (well... sort of)
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Post by: Nico on April 02, 2002, 08:47:32 pm
the one I played was called secret of mana, you could name your character and his g/friend, funny :)
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Post by: Kamikaze on April 02, 2002, 08:59:34 pm
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Originally posted by mikhael

Final Fantasy V was an absolute masterwork of a game, in my opinion. It was one of Square's 'system' games in the FF series. The system it pioneered saw reuse in, among other things, Final Fantasy Tactics and Final Fantasy X.

Final Fantasy IX was a great game, but it was just a 'story' game and did not seek in any way to innovate, but rather to celebrate all the games that came before it. In this, it succeeded quite well, containing many back references, both visually and audibly. The only things I didn't like about FFX was how easy it was (way way too easy) and the Star Wars quote. That just didn't seem to fit.

Oh, and, in my opinion, no Final Fantasy will ever outdo Final Fantasy VI for raw emotional power, storytelling, epic sweep and pure granduer. It also had kickass game play. Final Fantasy X comes close on the everything except epic sweep and gameplay. It has Granduer, emotional power and storytelling aplenty. :)


But FFV lacked a story that, well, actually made me cry or go all emotional - the lack of distinct uses of classes in an effective way detracted too...
But the system was great - though I don't see any similarities between X and V...

FFX was easy - Swing for... 40,000 damage OH YEAH! :D

VI was great... really great, so great I played through it three times (not done with the 3rd)
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Post by: Kamikaze on April 02, 2002, 09:00:17 pm
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Originally posted by venom2506
the one I played was called secret of mana, you could name your character and his g/friend, funny :)


Play Final Fantasy - you'll see where Squares money really  went :p
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Post by: mikhael on April 02, 2002, 09:19:24 pm
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Originally posted by Kamikaze


But FFV lacked a story that, well, actually made me cry or go all emotional - the lack of distinct uses of classes in an effective way detracted too...
But the system was great - though I don't see any similarities between X and V...


FFV was, like I said, a system game. FF1 lacked an emotional story too, but its still a great game.

The Sphere Grid in FFX is the Job System with a cosmetic face lift. You earn AP in both systems to allow you to progress to different skills. In both systems, you are able to make jumps between the jobs. Doing so stops your advancement on that job and starts it on another. Final Fantasy X uses Friend/Return/BlackMagic/WhiteMagic/Special spheres for doing exactly this. Elements of the job system carried over into FF6 as well, but only in the Esper's growing abilities.
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Post by: Zeronet on April 02, 2002, 09:21:48 pm
FF7 was emotional.
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Post by: JR2000Z on April 02, 2002, 09:35:19 pm
Eh.


In my opinion, FF 8 is more emotional than FF 7.
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Post by: Kamikaze on April 02, 2002, 09:37:23 pm
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Originally posted by mikhael


FFV was, like I said, a system game. FF1 lacked an emotional story too, but its still a great game.

The Sphere Grid in FFX is the Job System with a cosmetic face lift. You earn AP in both systems to allow you to progress to different skills. In both systems, you are able to make jumps between the jobs. Doing so stops your advancement on that job and starts it on another. Final Fantasy X uses Friend/Return/BlackMagic/WhiteMagic/Special spheres for doing exactly this. Elements of the job system carried over into FF6 as well, but only in the Esper's growing abilities.


Well... I'd say that FFX is inspired but I wouldn't go far as say based - in my mind the Sphere Board is a bit different. ;)

BTW: FF8 was way more character - character.
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Post by: Styxx on April 03, 2002, 06:57:34 am
Well, on the visuals department, all FFs since VII look damn weird. :D
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Post by: Nico on April 03, 2002, 07:20:03 am
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Originally posted by Kamikaze


Play Final Fantasy - you'll see where Squares money really  went :p


I'd rather get Thief2 if I get the choice to buy an oldy :p
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Post by: Styxx on April 03, 2002, 09:43:24 am
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Originally posted by venom2506
I'd rather get Thief2 if I get the choice to buy an oldy :p


Wise choice.
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Post by: Kamikaze on April 03, 2002, 09:48:40 am
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Originally posted by Styxx
Well, on the visuals department, all FFs since VII look damn weird. :D


But it's certainly nice to look at a super-high-poly Yuna :D
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Post by: Styxx on April 03, 2002, 09:54:20 am
The hair on the hero dude on FFX alone must have more polys than the Colossus model... :p
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Post by: Kamikaze on April 03, 2002, 10:00:06 am
I was reffering to the beautiful cutscenes :p (which they used TSW technology for)
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Post by: aldo_14 on April 03, 2002, 10:09:19 am
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Originally posted by venom2506


I'd rather get Thief2 if I get the choice to buy an oldy :p


Saw that in Dixons for £5 the other day. :)
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Post by: Styxx on April 03, 2002, 10:33:50 am
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Originally posted by Kamikaze
I was reffering to the beautiful cutscenes :p (which they used TSW technology for)


Bah, I don't really like those. They're all too surreal for my taste. :p
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Post by: Setekh on April 04, 2002, 07:43:02 am
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Originally posted by Gortef
Man did I enjoy when I got Omnishlash for Cloud :D


No kidding! :D It took me days to get that. I really mean, days. Ahhh, the wonders of summer holidays. Nothing to do but earn/find limit breaks. :D
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Post by: an0n on April 04, 2002, 07:47:32 am
I wonder how long it'll be before someone rips off TSW and makes some Aki-porn.
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Post by: Styxx on April 04, 2002, 08:16:59 am
Let's not go there, okay? :)
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Post by: an0n on April 04, 2002, 08:48:59 am
(http://community.the-underdogs.org/smiley/misc/frown.gif)
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Post by: Setekh on April 04, 2002, 08:52:05 am
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Originally posted by an0n
(http://community.the-underdogs.org/smiley/misc/frown.gif)


Did you just go to the effort of finding a different frown instead of using the default? :(
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Post by: an0n on April 04, 2002, 08:52:50 am
Yeah. Sad ain't I.
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Post by: mikhael on April 04, 2002, 10:36:39 am
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Originally posted by an0n
I wonder how long it'll be before someone rips off TSW and makes some Aki-porn.


Sad. You are so out of touch.

SQUARE did Aki pr0n before the movie was out. Full front nude shot of Aki, and a pic of Ash with his shirt off.

Seriously, doesn't anyone pay attention? ;)
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Post by: Nico on April 04, 2002, 11:20:17 am
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Originally posted by mikhael


Sad. You are so out of touch.

SQUARE did Aki pr0n before the movie was out. Full front nude shot of Aki, and a pic of Ash with his shirt off.

Seriously, doesn't anyone pay attention? ;)


lol, they're fakes :p
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Post by: mikhael on April 04, 2002, 11:34:44 am
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Originally posted by venom2506


lol, they're fakes :p


um. No. They're not. They were shown by Square to the press to display how realistic they had gotten the skin-procedurals.
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Post by: an0n on April 04, 2002, 12:47:25 pm
I meant movies.

Even if the pics are fake, the people who made them deserve to be made part of the Squaresoft team. If they're the ones that I'm thinking of then the 3d modelling of the body is excellent and worthy of the film.

EDIT: It's strange how I'll make some sarcastic, mocking comment about even the slightest little bit of strangeness but for some reason 3D porn disables my evil powers. Hmmmmmm.
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Post by: Zeronet on April 04, 2002, 01:02:06 pm
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Originally posted by mikhael


um. No. They're not. They were shown by Square to the press to display how realistic they had gotten the skin-procedurals.


Very true.
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Post by: Nico on April 04, 2002, 01:13:21 pm
ah
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Post by: JR2000Z on April 04, 2002, 01:16:40 pm
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Originally posted by mikhael

SQUARE did Aki pr0n before the movie was out.  


Where?!
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Post by: Zeronet on April 04, 2002, 01:20:08 pm
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Originally posted by JR2000Z


Where?!


http://www.geocities.com/ffclips2/

Now this isnt a direct link, but read the updates.
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Post by: Gortef on April 04, 2002, 01:35:32 pm
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Originally posted by an0n
I wonder how long it'll be before someone rips off TSW and makes some Aki-porn.


damn that bugs me :D at the situations like this, the name I mean
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Post by: Nico on April 04, 2002, 02:15:10 pm
lol hehe Aki, got nude pics of yourself? :D
huh, after all, i hope not :p