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Title: SOL bomber preveiw for BWO
Post by: Bobboau on April 02, 2002, 12:26:06 am
I made  that (http://freespace.volitionwatch.com/blackwater/i_sol.php) BTW
bow before my 1337|\I355 ;7
Title: SOL bomber preveiw for BWO
Post by: Kamikaze on April 02, 2002, 12:34:11 am
*bows* ;)

The textures are great and that ring thing looks cool :yes:
Title: SOL bomber preveiw for BWO
Post by: Stryke 9 on April 02, 2002, 12:56:03 am
Not bad. Still a tad too GTVA to be Sol, tho.

And some noyce texturing...
Title: SOL bomber preveiw for BWO
Post by: WMCoolmon on April 02, 2002, 01:34:21 am
Two ;7s up! :D
Title: SOL bomber preveiw for BWO
Post by: Setekh on April 02, 2002, 02:43:07 am
Now THAT is what I call a well-designed ship. Very impressive. :nod:

(http://freespace.volitionwatch.com/blackwater/intel/tech_vanir.jpg)

I bow before your l33tness. ;) Wow, how friggin' big is it! Look at the size of those turrets on the back! ;)
Title: SOL bomber preveiw for BWO
Post by: Shrike on April 02, 2002, 02:50:15 am
That things's a bomber?  Jesus....... either it's friggen huge or those turrets are really small.
Title: SOL bomber preveiw for BWO
Post by: Bobboau on April 02, 2002, 02:59:50 am
it's only 95 meters long ;7
Title: SOL bomber preveiw for BWO
Post by: Shrike on April 02, 2002, 03:02:35 am
That's not a bomber any more....... :p
Title: SOL bomber preveiw for BWO
Post by: aldo_14 on April 02, 2002, 03:24:27 am
Neat :)

Surprisingly few vents & decals, though, from what I can tell.

I like decals.;7
Title: SOL bomber preveiw for BWO
Post by: Shrike on April 02, 2002, 03:25:10 am
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Originally posted by Bobboau
it's only 95 meters long ;7
And you know, if it's that big, the cockpit is way oversized.
Title: SOL bomber preveiw for BWO
Post by: Setekh on April 02, 2002, 03:25:21 am
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Originally posted by Bobboau
it's only 95 meters long ;7


Half a Leviathan! I like it... :D
Title: SOL bomber preveiw for BWO
Post by: Fineus on April 02, 2002, 03:31:25 am
Could make a very nice Corvette for IW2...

Reminds me of the command module in IW2...

Also reminds me of something massive and tank like I'd expect to find in Battlezone2...

Nice!
Title: SOL bomber preveiw for BWO
Post by: Setekh on April 02, 2002, 03:38:27 am
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Originally posted by Thunder
Could make a very nice Corvette for IW2...


If we could get the COB of Bob (rhyme!), we could get Mikhael to do some magic with it... ;)
Title: SOL bomber preveiw for BWO
Post by: Turnsky on April 02, 2002, 04:03:44 am
*bows* i'm not worthy, i'm not worthy :D
Title: SOL bomber preveiw for BWO
Post by: aldo_14 on April 02, 2002, 04:06:24 am
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Originally posted by Shrike
And you know, if it's that big, the cockpit is way oversized.


cokcpits, i think.  Neat idea, actually - like a big WW2 bomber.
Title: SOL bomber preveiw for BWO
Post by: Bobboau on April 02, 2002, 04:19:08 am
were gona have something like "at half the length of a leviathan, six turrets, and a crew of twenty to fifty the vanir is often refered to as a gunship though technicaly is designated as a bomber and targeting systems will identify it as such" and there is a bit of a debate about how many people should be in the crew, I say it sould have 20-50 depending on missions, kellan and Icefire think it sould only be like 10 at most, more like 3

and yes the cockpit is very large, I thought of the pilot being in the middle of a giant glass shpereicaloid, I was thinking of making a high resolution render model of it if I had the time, and yess it was largly inspired by the big WW2 bombers, it cockpit designt is one of the defining features of the SMC's next-gen fighters, as is the color sceam
Title: SOL bomber preveiw for BWO
Post by: Setekh on April 02, 2002, 04:22:13 am
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Originally posted by Bobboau
were gona have something like "at half the length of a leviathan, six turrets, and a crew of twenty to fifty the vanir is often refered to as a gunship though technicaly is designated as a bomber and targeting systems will identify it as such" and there is a bit of a debate about how many people should be in the crew, I say it sould have 20-50 depending on missions, kellan and Icefire think it sould only be like 10 at most, more like 3

and yes the cockpit is very large, I thought of the pilot being in the middle of a giant glass shpereicaloid, I was thinking of making a high resolution render model of it if I had the time, and yess it was largly inspired by the big WW2 bombers, it cockpit designt is one of the defining features of the SMC's next-gen fighters, as is the color sceam


For a vessel like that, I'd say 6 command staff (two per cockpit subsection), and a nominated amount of auxilary crew - which depends on the importance of the mission and the condition of the ship, as well as the ordinance on board.
Title: SOL bomber preveiw for BWO
Post by: Nico on April 02, 2002, 04:29:22 am
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Originally posted by Bobboau
yess it was largly inspired by the big WW2 bombers


yeah, much like my Uriel, tho I think yours is much bigger.
Title: SOL bomber preveiw for BWO
Post by: Setekh on April 02, 2002, 04:51:37 am
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Originally posted by venom2506
yeah, much like my Uriel, tho I think yours is much bigger.


No kidding. I'm surprised it can reach 60m/s. ;)

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Manuverability: Very Poor


Figured as much... :D
Title: SOL bomber preveiw for BWO
Post by: Bobboau on April 02, 2002, 05:02:33 am
actualy in my tables it says

Manuverability:... uh, what's Manuverability?

this even shows up in the loadout
Title: SOL bomber preveiw for BWO
Post by: delta_7890 on April 02, 2002, 06:15:52 am
Looks like a cross-between Command Section from IW2 and the Millenium Falcon.  Not that that's bad, in fact, it's easily the coolest bomber I've seen yet!
Title: SOL bomber preveiw for BWO
Post by: Styxx on April 02, 2002, 06:52:08 am
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Originally posted by Setekh
Half a Leviathan! I like it... :D


You realize it's not that much bigger than the Ga******, right?

Great work, by the way. :nod:
Title: SOL bomber preveiw for BWO
Post by: LtNarol on April 02, 2002, 08:11:27 am
i like the textures, but the bomber itself just looks like a flying brick to me...kinda homeworldish though.
Title: SOL bomber preveiw for BWO
Post by: mikhael on April 02, 2002, 08:16:19 am
I'll play about with an Iwar2 version if someone wants, but it would be after Venom's Arcadia (which I AM working on V :D)

It looks great Bobboau, but I wouldn't want to fly it. I imagine that the guy in the cockpit has no peripheral visibility at all. he'd have to rely on sensors to see what was just on the other side.

Great ship though. Definately in the class of beasts (proper 'corvette') that I like. :D
Title: SOL bomber preveiw for BWO
Post by: Nico on April 02, 2002, 09:00:50 am
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Originally posted by mikhael
(which I AM working on V :D)


you sure? :lol:
Title: SOL bomber preveiw for BWO
Post by: aldo_14 on April 02, 2002, 09:06:52 am
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Originally posted by mikhael


It looks great Bobboau, but I wouldn't want to fly it. I imagine that the guy in the cockpit has no peripheral visibility at all. he'd have to rely on sensors to see what was just on the other side.


Something that size, the pilot would probably have dedicated HUD equipment, rather than using the viewport.  It's an idea venom did with a Vasudan interceptor for OTT, the Aoh, and I think it's probably the best design for future FS craft.

Whether you think having no cockpit looks better or not is, of course, up to you ;).  Personally, I don't really care. :) ;7
Title: SOL bomber preveiw for BWO
Post by: Zeronet on April 02, 2002, 12:03:57 pm
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Originally posted by LtNarol
i like the textures, but the bomber itself just looks like a flying brick to me...kinda homeworldish though.


Uh, take another look, no way does that look like a brick.
Title: SOL bomber preveiw for BWO
Post by: Stunaep on April 02, 2002, 12:16:17 pm
I've said that before, and I'll say it again: [Homer Simpson Voice]Mmm...Stuff....[/Homer Simpson Voice]

This is good stuff :yes: :yes: :yes:
And it beats even the Seraphim in size. OW!
Title: SOL bomber preveiw for BWO
Post by: JR2000Z on April 02, 2002, 01:31:27 pm
Best user-made model I've seen in a while. :yes:


How long did it take for you to make it?
Title: SOL bomber preveiw for BWO
Post by: Bobboau on April 02, 2002, 01:51:13 pm
about a week, that one went together realy fast, the model it replaced (wich was realy crappy) took like a month to make, wich goes to show the diference between and inspired work and an uninspired work
Title: SOL bomber preveiw for BWO
Post by: mikhael on April 02, 2002, 01:53:19 pm
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Originally posted by aldo_14
Something that size, the pilot would probably have dedicated HUD equipment, rather than using the viewport.  It's an idea venom did with a Vasudan interceptor for OTT, the Aoh, and I think it's probably the best design for future FS craft.

A very good point. As I-War2 showed, you dont' need to be able to see to be able to fight if you've got a good HUD. :D

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Whether you think having no cockpit looks better or not is, of course, up to you ;).  Personally, I don't really care. :) ;7


Ouch. :lol:
Title: SOL bomber preveiw for BWO
Post by: Setekh on April 04, 2002, 08:06:19 am
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Originally posted by Styxx
You realize it's not that much bigger than the Ga******, right?


It's not? Oh.. ummm... * shuts up *
Title: SOL bomber preveiw for BWO
Post by: Styxx on April 04, 2002, 08:20:32 am
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Originally posted by Setekh
It's not? Oh.. ummm... * shuts up *


I have to send you the model...
Title: SOL bomber preveiw for BWO
Post by: Setekh on April 04, 2002, 08:46:23 am
I'll be waiting for it. :) Has it been texed yet? I shouldn't be asking here, huh? :D
Title: SOL bomber preveiw for BWO
Post by: Nico on April 04, 2002, 11:38:01 am
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Originally posted by Setekh
I'll be waiting for it. :) Has it been texed yet? I shouldn't be asking here, huh? :D


lol, don't think so. Btw, why the ***? you already posted the name in the public forum once :p ( and i thought we changed that name anyway :p )
But maybe I'm completly mistaken and I don't think about the right ship :lol:
Title: SOL bomber preveiw for BWO
Post by: Styxx on April 04, 2002, 11:57:20 am
I had posted the name, I just hadn't said what it was. And I'm not sure yet about the name change... we gotta talk more about it. :)
Title: SOL bomber preveiw for BWO
Post by: Nico on April 04, 2002, 12:13:06 pm
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Originally posted by Styxx
I had posted the name, I just hadn't said what it was. And I'm not sure yet about the name change... we gotta talk more about it. :)
k, the name is up to you anyway :)