Hard Light Productions Forums
Announcements => Announcements => Topic started by: Fury on August 28, 2009, 01:08:07 pm
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Game Warden and Hard Light Productions will be moving to another server September. The reasons for this are purely financial. Our standing host still charges original sum monthly and we've been unable to negotiate a transfer to better server (we have need for more RAM) for same price or price reduction for our current server.
Expected downtime should be no longer than say, two or three days because DNS update needs to propagate to your DNS server. But expect Mr. Murphy to have a ball on this one, I know I do. I will announce date for the downtime as soon as I know it myself. However, it may be on short notice depending on circumstances, such as scheduling it around real-life. I know some of you will have strong withdrawal effects due to the downtime, but as we rely solely on ads and goodwill donations by admins and community alike, we want to make sure the few bucks are not wasted on overpriced server.
If you want to work on your projects during downtime, I strongly suggest to download whatever you need from our ftp as soon as possible.
Don't forget that you can keep in touch with the community on IRC via your favorite client or Mibbit (http://widget.mibbit.com/?settings=b73fe961ed217d9a3cbd9637dc7ba9bf&server=irc.esper.net&channel=%23hard-light&noServerTab=false).
Update 1: Looks like the downtime will begin either on September 1st (Tuesday) or 2nd (Wednesday).
Update 2: There will be longer downtime for FS2Netd as taylor has busy real-life schedule and may not be around to set it up right after the move.
Update 3: HLP's move will commence within 24 hours. GW's schedule is up to MatthewPapa.
Update 4: We're on new server!
Update 5: Hosted project sites are yet to set up. I apologize for the inconvenience.
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Back up any content that you really need to keep (posts with valuable information or whatnot.) Can't imagine what those would be, but it can't hurt, right?
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Incidentally you can use "Print" button that is in bottom right corner of every topic. It outputs a text-only page you can save on HDD or print. :)
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If you know what it's going to be can you post the new IP before the site goes down so we don't have to wait for DNS to update.
/me foresees major withdrawal symptoms.
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At least we have a backup to get our daily fix. To the IRCcave, Robin!
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I'm guessing the wiki will also be down in this time?
What's the easiest way to save info from the wiki onto a harddrive?
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aww, ok, i guess i can work on my project... now
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You could set up a reverse proxy in the meantime to prevent DNS headaches.
http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/mod/mod_proxy.html
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I'll have to re-work my bookmarks?
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It seems to be the case.
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Why would you need to change your bookmarks? Transferring to a different physical server won't affect the site's domain name in the least.
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What is basically means is that the IP address of the Server is going to change, and it's going to take time for any routers between you and HLP to receieve the new IP address as it filters through their tables. The further you are from HLP, the longer the wait until it can be found again, but even then, it shouldn't be that long, the system works quite effectively.
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We'll have to cope. . . So bookmarks will be the same, but the IP will change?
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so will it be the same url?
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Yes, the URL will be identical, for people who have it bookmarked, nothing will change, you just might have trouble getting through for up to 24 hours until all the links between you and HLP know what route to take :)
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HLP = a house.
www.hard-light.net = P.O. Box.
You have always accessed HLP via the POB. That will not change. It's just where that POB will send things that's changing.
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Are there any specific dates for when this move will occur?
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I will announce date for the downtime as soon as I know it myself..
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Will HLP IRC still be up during the downtime?
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Probably, it's hosted on the EsperNet servers.
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Looks like the downtime will begin either on September 1st (Tuesday) or 2nd (Wednesday).
There will be longer downtime for FS2Netd as taylor has busy real-life schedule and may not be around to set it up right after the move.
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Eep. That soon?
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Don't forget about sectorgame ( http://www.sectorgame.com/forums/ ) while HLP is out. :nod:
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Will FSMods still be up?
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D'oh, fsmods is hosted elsewhere.
Edit: Don't forget that you can keep in touch with the community on IRC via your favorite client or Mibbit (http://widget.mibbit.com/?settings=b73fe961ed217d9a3cbd9637dc7ba9bf&server=irc.esper.net&channel=%23hard-light&noServerTab=false).
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Don't forget about sectorgame ( http://www.sectorgame.com/forums/ ) while HLP is out. :nod:
Yeah, we don't bite...much. Unless there's a full moon out.
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Wait, so we're losing all threads on the forum and everything? Can't we just back them up and restore the backups from the database?
(I have had plenty of forum admin experience in the past, it's really not that difficult >.>)
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They're just moving to a different server. They're not deleting the forums.
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It's amazing how many of you have never been through a server move before. :p
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It's amazing how many of you have never been through a server move before. :p
Yeah, but I use common sense. The questions I raised were just to double-check my common sense. :rolleyes:
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Server moves are traumatizing. :shaking:
Once...on another forum...an entire month worth of posts were lost.
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Wait, so we're losing all threads on the forum and everything? Can't we just back them up and restore the backups from the database?
(I have had plenty of forum admin experience in the past, it's really not that difficult >.>)
:wtf: :doubt: :lol:
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/me noticed the topic needs changed to this month..........
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Like, downtime coming nao.
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That was remarkably short and sweet. Kudos to the guys responsible for making the downtime as quick and painless as possible. :yes:
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The move has not even begun yet. :p
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So what the heck was this morning?
:shaking:
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That was just the usual hiccup in apache our current/old server occasionally has.
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IIRC, there's a backup every day around 1pm GMT +8.
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Not every day, only on friday on current/old server.
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Really? Well. Guess I have horrible timing. =/
Roughly how long will a server move take?
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Roughly how long will a server move take?
Read the first post of this thread. :p
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Roughly how long will a server move take?
Read the first post of this thread. :p
It doesn't say.
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Exactly. :p
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Really? Well. Guess I have horrible timing. =/
Roughly how long will a server move take?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-Q7b-vHY3Q
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HLP's move will commence within 24 hours. GW's schedule is up to MatthewPapa.
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You mean that still wasn't it? :sigh:
I'm happy to wait though, HLP is teh bestesyest websiote evah!"
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we are getting close. so far so good
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You mean that still wasn't it? :sigh:
I think server crashed when MatthewPapa was doing a file transfer, it had to be hard rebooted. I dunno about the details, I was asleep at the time.
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What's this got to do with a certain blue-white forum theme?
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Nothing, I had to fix HLP theme paths.
In that note, welcome to the new server.
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It is fantastically slow, Fury, as compared to the old server. Some of the icons take forever to load; others require me to use Firefox's purge command (COMMAND + SHIFT + R) several times in order to load them. Otherwise, everything is fine, and I'm certain it'll load faster the more I visit HLP. :)
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Tested with three different browsers, works fine here. The problem if any, is likely on your end or between the server and you.
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Hosted project subdomains have not been set up yet. I will do that tomorrow if I have the time. If I don't, my apologies to hosted members.
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if you are having problems with images, it might still be DNS issues. GW is having a similar problem
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dns propagated fine to croatia...
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So it's all done now? Squeeeeeee! :wakka:
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/me has just noticed a slight change in HLP's URL.
The WWW bit is gone.
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Thanks for spotting, fixored.
So it's all done now? Squeeeeeee! :wakka:
Not quite, hosted projects are yet to be set up.
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Uhh, Fury, the interface has just underwent a colourswap...
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Heh, I didn't notice that. :p
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That was fast.
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Nice. Fast and clean.
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Ara... back online already? Oh yey.
I don't see any difference over here, well back to normal HLPism... oh wait the clock is wrong *goes off to change it*
And I keep thinking there's a button missing when posting...
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I noticed email notifications aren't being sent. Investigating as time allows.
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Most hosted project sites work again. Some may be partially broken, some I fixed myself. I will start handling out hosted project ftp-accounts tomorrow so that their webmasters can fix the rest.
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please tell me you transferred mod databases too?
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Well of course. d'oh.
In another note, has anyone suffered from frequent page loading problems on hard-light.net or game-warden.com? Such as 403 Forbidden error? MatthewPapa says he's gotten 403 frequently while I have not seen any kind of page loading problems. So I'm wondering if anyone else is.
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Been on both forums all day and none here. The occasional add loading delay is about it.
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What he said.
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The forums are in need of some database maintenance. Unfortunately there's a side-effect to one of the required operations, all posts will be marked as unread. It sucks I know.
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I was getting frequent Forbidden messages last night.
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Probably because I restarted Apache to apply a few tweaks. And I messed around with wiki some, which indeed did produce 403's.
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One good thing. Now I know that there's actually an FTP for interviews, plus a webpage. Although I still haven't figured out how to use it.
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Unfortunately there's a side-effect to one of the required operations, all posts will be marked as unread. It sucks I know.
Ahh, I was wondering about that.
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All marked unread again?
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Depends whether you marked topics read before or after last database backup. If after, then yes they are unread.