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Modding, Mission Design, and Coding => The Modding Workshop => Topic started by: Axem on September 27, 2009, 12:41:14 pm
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Continuing with taking a break from hard FREDding... A Shivan Gunship and/or Light Cruiser. I'm not too sure how to arm it. I was thinking a heavy weapon (light beam or FS1 super laser like gun) in each of the nacelle pods with some anti-fighter turrets sprinkled about. Maybe a cluster missile launcher too. I'm not too sure if I like the turrets. They seem too chunky for Shivans. I need to redo parts of the bottom nacelles to better match the top one, and I haven't done any work on the bottom yet. Also bottom pic is a rear shot of an earlier model, nothing much changed from there so I'll just reuse that pic... :nervous:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v109/NarfPics/stubbyshivan9.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v109/NarfPics/stubbyshivan910.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v109/NarfPics/morestubbyshivan3.jpg)
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I like the concept and the basic shape, will be keeping an eye on this
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Much more mechanical than the typical "Shivan something" which is fan made. The pods almost give it a... Terran feel.
As far as turrets go, I think button turrets actually suit the Shivans very well... exceptions to this would be the main beams on the dreaded Lilith or that joke-of-a-cruiser Cain.
By the way, what software do you use, Axem?
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It's a Dragons mummy :)
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Win.
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Nice and high-poly :yes: Will this be publicly released?
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It sorta looks like a Shivanized version of Galactica. This is awesome.
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Much more mechanical than the typical "Shivan something" which is fan made. The pods almost give it a... Terran feel.
It's very FS1-inspired, and FS1 Shivan ships are a lot more mechanical than the FS2 space bug look. I like the FS1 style better.
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That's quite cool, and definitely looks plenty Shivan. :yes:
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I think whatever heavy weapons I mount on this thing, it'll go below each of the pods instead of inside them. So that thing on the top arm will be going. Aside from the Lucifer, no Shivan ships have anything inside their arm recesses.
Thaeris: I like moving turrets, so I want this to have them. :p I really think I'll redo them now. The turrets look find as a missile launcher, but not as a normal gun. Also I use Wings3D for all my modelling needs.
Dekker: I had considered adding some sort of rack to fit small Shivan fighters on... like some Dragons... :drevil:
FreeSpaceFreak: It will most certainly be released publicly! Depends in what state though. I can model and UVMap but texturing is another story...
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I just had a thought... if you could figure out how to do non-vertical multi-part turrets, and you did that for some of those turrets, it might look a lot better. Maybe.
Edit: An idea, as for armament, how about swarm bomb type stuff? Firing ~4 shots at once, with a reasonably long wait between shots... or just swarm missiles...
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If you UVMap it I would like to texture it :)
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What do you use to UVMap and can you do the forty odd models i have laying around waiting to be done ;7
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Certainly looks Shivan-ish.
Well, limitations on the FS engine that be, you really can't put loads of fast-firing weapons on it and make into what I think is a proper gunship.
For a gunship, I think you'd need lots of flaks and beams, possibly some gattling lasers to cover the slack between their recharge/reload.
Light cruiser wise, a couple of primary beams and then covered with regular Shivan blobs and the usual array of beamz and flaks should do.
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Looks pretty cool. I've been thinking about trying to do a Shivan Cruiser or two myself. Been too busy trying to land a job.
The one thing I can say about FS1 style is that the Shivan warships often have flat bottoms. So, I would suggest that yours is more of an amalgamation of the two styles. Cool none-the-less.
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Flippin' awesome.
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No giant updates, just the a new turret design and in a nicer render!
(Does it have enough spikey stuff yet?)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v109/NarfPics/gunshipblender.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v109/NarfPics/gunshipblender2.jpg)
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(Does it have enough spikey stuff yet?)
If anything, I think it has too much spiky stuff. Particularly the 3x spikes on either side of the top are kind of overdoing it. Shivans may have spikes, but that's ... meh.
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Very very cool. :D
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The only thing that throws me off a bit are the pods... apart from that, it's coming along well. :yes:
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Looks great. I don't think there are too many spikes.
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The ratio of spikes to the size of the ship makes me feel that there should be more spikes, but then again, there are also many Shivan ships without spikes. I like the spikes, at least.
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It's cool... Now someone help him finish it! :D
(Shivanstar) Kidding!
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Pod attachment is still flimsy-looking. Maybe replacing the top 3 spikes (which other people seem to like, but I don't) with some sort of attachment/bracing/bigger structure, and doing something to make the bottom pods also look less flimsily attached, would help?
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Those spikes are somewhat based off of what the Cain/Lilith have. While they have less spikes total, I like them. So they stay!
And I haven't touched the bottom half of the ship very much, so just be patient for now.
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I thought that was a Shivan Perseus at first glance with the Shivanisation employing a really high-powered primary gun configuration and no visible secondaries... what, F-22 style internal missile pods? XD
Then I saw the words "Gunship".
Oh well. XD
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I saw it on IRC first, and like I said there, this thing is awesome. :yes:
Nicely incorporates the FS2 and FS1 design elements of Shivans, and also fits nicely with the Lamia's distinctive style too. Well done sah.
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I dislike the engines.
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I dislike the engines.
The engines are the same as the ones on the Cain and Lamia...
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Really? Lamia maybe, but... the Cain? You mean c914's Cain? I must see this...
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sexy, damn sexy.
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Nice! :yes: :yes:
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:bump:
I demand moar progress on this.
Seriously, it was looking cool.
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There ain't much there that's new. I was mostly working on the lower brace where the bottom pods connect to the main hull. VA drew an awesome idea for it, but I have not been able to reproduce it in 3D form yet.
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Updates!
Thanks to VA for getting me started on the arms!
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v109/NarfPics/nextgunship1.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v109/NarfPics/nextgunship2.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v109/NarfPics/nextgunship3.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v109/NarfPics/nextgunship4.jpg)
I gotta say, I'm getting tired of calling this the Shivan Gunship. Gimme names people!
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Ship look awesome.
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Ragnarok class gunship. I had a Ragnarok class gunship. But it was lost in the great LOA purge of 2002. :(
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That doesn't sound very Shivan though.
Needs some demon name.
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What could be worse thqan the viking apocalypse?
Hmmm...... What about Samael then?
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Currently the name I'm leaning toward is Asura. Just FYI. It might change.
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I think Asura is cool.
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Me too.
(ignoring the fact that there's already a SC Asura in uh...the great hunt (FS2))
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Well there was a GTD Myrmidon and the GTF Myrmidon... so things can be interchanged a bit sometimes.
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How about one of the many spellings of Inanna / Innin / Ennin / Ninnin / Ninni / Ninanna / Ninnar / Innina / Ennina / Irnina / Innini / Nana / Nin, aka Ishtar / Astarte ?
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Me too.
(ignoring the fact that there's already a SC Asura in uh...the great hunt (FS2))
Asuras, not Asura.
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Oh...but they are referring to the same thing.
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Me too.
(ignoring the fact that there's already a SC Asura in uh...the great hunt (FS2))
Asuras, not Asura.
I was going to point that out, but I opted to refrain from such imbecilic nitpicking. :P
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Me too.
(ignoring the fact that there's already a SC Asura in uh...the great hunt (FS2))
Asuras, not Asura.
I was going to point that out, but I opted to refrain from such imbecilic nitpicking. :P
I wanted to let Axem know that Asura is unused except in FS1.
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Me too.
(ignoring the fact that there's already a SC Asura in uh...the great hunt (FS2))
Asuras, not Asura.
I was going to point that out, but I opted to refrain from such imbecilic nitpicking. :P
I wanted to let Axem know that Asura is unused except in FS1.
Well maybe you should have said it's used in FS1 then, but you didn't. :p
Hey Axem, it's used in FS1 as a name for Shivan bomber wings!
Yay! Am hero now!
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I know, and I don't care. :p
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Suggestions:
SF Incubus
SF Shoggoth
SF Ahriman
SF Malebranche
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What about the
SC Sarasvati
In keeping with naming the bulk of shivan craft after hindu deities. The name shivan could be seen as being taken from Shiva the god of destruction. :P
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Axem, do you have in mind fully finishing this model anytime soon?
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What about the
SC Sarasvati
In keeping with naming the bulk of shivan craft after hindu deities. The name shivan could be seen as being taken from Shiva the god of destruction. :P
The majority of Shivan craft are named after demons and monsters (or deities of civilizations that were rivals to the Israelites and thus twisted by Judeo-Christian religion into demons and monsters), not Hindu deities.
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Me too.
(ignoring the fact that there's already a SC Asura in uh...the great hunt (FS2))
Asuras, not Asura.
I was going to point that out, but I opted to refrain from such imbecilic nitpicking. :P
I wanted to let Axem know that Asura is unused except in FS1.
Well maybe you should have said it's used in FS1 then, but you didn't. :p
Hey Axem, it's used in FS1 as a name for Shivan bomber wings!
Yay! Am hero now!
I told him on IRC. You am not hero.
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Aemmmmmmmmm. Name it and end this conflict or i nominate calling it the billy class gunship :p
mobius tag test
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SGs Asura.
Matter closed!
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Gs as in gunship? :wtf:
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Yeah. It is a gunship.
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Yeah. It is a gunship.
Always seemed more like a cruiser to me, but I haven't been following this thread too closely.
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Well in my mind, I want to see it fly like a Whitestar from B5. I dunno how well it'll hold up in the game, but sizewise I think it'll be about half the size of a Cain (A Seraphim is 1/4 of the length of a Cain FYI, so twice as long as a Seraphim).
But this is all just speculation so far.
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Yo Axem,
It's been a while since we've heard anything about the Asura, so I'm curious if there's anything new regarding it?
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Yo Axem,
It's been a while since we've heard anything about the Asura, so I'm curious if there's anything new regarding it?
Yeah. He deleted it.
Well not really, but that was his witty reply when I asked about it on IRC.
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Had a second look, i think it should be flown by predators.......
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Just thought I'd jump in, you know, way after it's already a gunship and say that this would be pretty beastly as an anti capital ship flavor of shivan corvette to complement the largely tame moloch...
It's super sexy though
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It's not dead, just restin! Pining for the soupernovas I say!
I've been FREDding a lot lately and have not touched the Asura in awhile. But I won't abandon her, he'll get released in one form or another.
Avatar: The Shivans do need some nicer corvettes, but the way everything is scaled on the Asura, she looks too small for a corvette. I do have some ideas for Shivan corvettes though, but who knows when I'll get around to it.