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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: Colonol Dekker on October 17, 2009, 04:57:12 pm
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Right, you have two weeks in which to vote, discuss and generally see whether the yellow, hollow shinned ones are trusted allies, skinny no-good sand dwelling naked scumbags...........
Or whatever :nod:
Non-existent xeno-topical discussion go!
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I would quite happily and already have massacre a Zod homeworld.
It's what they deserve :mad2:
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i think theyre kinda cute
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cute? :p
I like fish, but not that much.... still, I'm playing hard to get and voting Snufflethingybob :lol:
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All hail the zods!
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This thread is speciesist.
WUV.
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This thread is speciesist.
WUV.
No it's not :drevil:
I put a Wuv option in, unless that's offensive to either species.......... :nervous:
downwithzods...
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Um Zod?
Like
(http://politicalvindication.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/kneel_before_zod.jpg)
Zod?
If so shouldn't there be a kneel stance in the poll?
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No, like FireSpawn is a spammy asshat. :P
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Considering I once had a dream where I tried to help a vasudan NAMED Zod try and avoid capture from the United States goverment, I'd say wuv.
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As much as I like to hate on them in the IRC, they sure helped us out in both Great Wars.
Frakkin' zods...
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I for one endorse the Emperor of Zod. :nod:
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There's room for only one species in this galaxy, and that race is the Terrans.
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Hidden results?
Eh, my take on them is the same as on humans: I really couldn't care less one way or the other.
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what are Zods?
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Zods are awesome!
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/me goes for the Wuv option.
BUP BUP, BUP BUP, BUP BUP BUP. :headz:
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I'm still waiting for the "Kneel Before" Option
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I still can't figure out why they've gained that nickname.
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Old fanfic by Eishtmo I think. Comes from "Zodiac" (Vasudans are from space).
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:wtf: ......
Not only are they from space (or rather, Vasuda) but hostile wings are named after the signs of the ZODiac. Hence, 'zod.'
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I'm going with Wuv. We need all the allies we can get. Not to mention the already standing alliance should keep terrans from becoming evil dictator conquering overlords should the GTVA ever encounter a less advanced race.
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Heck, I know this is correlation/causation, but every time we've started killing Zods, the Shivans have turned up.
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No idea who the Zod are but on the basis of not liking the name, I don't wuv them >.>
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Vasudans.
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I'm going with Wuv. We need all the allies we can get. Not to mention the already standing alliance should keep terrans from becoming evil dictator conquering overlords should the GTVA ever encounter a less advanced race.
they only ally we NEED is alpha 1.
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Vasudans have fascinating anatomical structure. Wuv, for science!
(http://freespaceport.googlepages.com/vaskeleton.jpg)
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Oooh, from the cutscene? A fine intro, many Zod Skeletons = win!
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Vasudans have fascinating anatomical structure. Wuv, for science!
(http://freespaceport.googlepages.com/vaskeleton.jpg)
Wow. FSPort gets increasingly awesome.
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from what I can see there they surely can hold a big BIG sandwitch...
hope it's not made of human headz- :lol:
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KNEEL BEFORE ZODz or headz!else!
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This concept of "wuv" confuses and enrages me. Therefore, I must hate those who are the subject of this "wuv".
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Heck, I know this is correlation/causation, but every time we've started killing Zods, the Shivans have turned up.
Those religious bastards start praying every time we attack. Damn them. Bosch had it all wrong. :ick:
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On a second look at the Vasudan, TBH, I don't think it's that great... To me it looks like you just got a human skeleton and deformed it. It doesn't look like a Vasudan skeleton really.
For example, just looking at the shape of the Vasudan body I doubt they'd have ribs.
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Of course they do!
They have a chest, they have knuckles and temples, and orbital bones. I'd assume by the shape of the chest they have ribs also.
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Their particular stomach, or lack therof, however, suggests a dual-spine almost exoskeleton configuration. And those arms don't work for them either. :P
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Spine = vertebrae. They must have a ribcage, I mean look at the shape, show me a pic someone, of the FS1 zod techroom please. :)
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Only 2 ribs per side though. That would make Zod ribs a delicacy.
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I'd find the taste bitter and repugnant. . .
I might start a club.
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On the contrary brother! Zod ribs are extremely delicious. Trust me i should know i have slaughtered and feasted upon enough of them :D
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Vasudans have always struck me as somewhat having an exoskeleton, which is why I find them having ribs weird.
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Exoskeletons generally aren't viable for large organisms in strong gravity though.
Incidentally, Zod ribs most likely wouldn't be very nutritious, as Vasudans are fairly high up the food chain. :nervous:
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Exoskeletons generally aren't viable for large organisms in strong gravity though.
MMmm, point taken.
Really why I don't like the ribs is because it's not original. Come on FSport guys, you're awesome, do something cool with Vasudan skeletons. :P
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You've not seen the concept yet? They do what everyone should with Zod Skeletons, in fact it's rapturous joy to behold.............. :3
<3 <3 <3 <3 <3
(http://photos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs203.snc1/7028_170318037848_607142848_2804622_6640917_n.jpg)
RAndom image......
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(http://politicalvindication.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/kneel_before_zod.jpg)
KNEEL BEFORE THEM!
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Curse you, Dekker! Curse you and all of your NTF toadies!
:P
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Depends on wether they are shooting at me or not.
It not, then they're alright.
But i they are, then let them burn
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I have a Microsoft Razer mouse by the same name...
Says it all doesn't it :p
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Vasudans might have long life spans, but they're all the more willing to give them up in suicidal attacks.
(just pointing that out. I like Vasudans. Vasudans are cool.)
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I agree Shivans are a lot better than Zods or Terrans in many ways. For examp- ALL GLORY TO THE HYPNOCAT!!!
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Stow that ****, marine!
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Yes, glorifying the Hypnocat is inappropriate in a thread about Zods.
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How long until someone posts a Hypnozod pic now?
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(http://politicalvindication.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/kneel_before_zod.jpg)
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(http://politicalvindication.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/kneel_before_zod.jpg)
I thought I saw this a few pages back...
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Yes, but that doens't make it any less true. But if you insist:
A zod (http://pix.motivatedphotos.com/2009/3/15/633727428395740610-generalzodkneelbeforehim.jpg)
And another Zod..the real one[/quote] (http://redfaction.volitionwatch.com/fsfps/img/headz.jpg)
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I would have chosen Hate, but hate is such a strong word and I wouldn't want to encourage any hate-crime, more suspicious of their overall motives. So I chose Snufflethingybob.
However, if they changed their emperor's name to Vectron, I would have to "Wuv" them! ;) :P
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I'm glad to hear you've rejoined the British Army, Dekker. And more so that you're well pleased with that decision.
...That said, does that mean you've renounced all ties to the NTF? :P
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I'm glad to hear you've rejoined the British Army, Dekker. And more so that you're well pleased with that decision.
...That said, does that mean you've renounced all ties to the NTF? :P
It's Territorial, kind of like National guard but ten times better cos we're ten times better :p
And no i won't renounce my antizodism, (first use of that word in the HISTORYOF EVERYTHING EVER!!!!!) in fact.. I'm going to start an underground movement in the Ministry of Defense similar to MIB which will eventually lead to the start of the fourteen year war :nod:
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So you're like Celestial Being, only that you'll plot for 200 hundred years to start a war?
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200 hundred years
So 20,000 years then?
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Zod Tech + Human Tech = KICKASS
Zods Forever!
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... Lol whoops.
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USA goes overboard with their pride and thinks their military is the best
Our military costs as much as all of the other militaries put together
If it isn't the best, we're getting ripped off hard.
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High Max, why so serious?
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It was crossed comms, or a misunderstanding. Which is exactly what we wanted you to think. . . . . ;7
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Probably the result of a Terran taking offense to the standard greeting gesture in Zod culture 'mooning'. The act of mooning may be the equivilent of waving in their culture.
Why does "Scary Movie 3" come to mind when I read this?..
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Probably the result of a Terran taking offense to the standard greeting gesture in Zod culture 'mooning'. The act of mooning may be the equivilent of waving in their culture.
If thats how they say "hello", then i don't want to shake hands or hug them. Vectron only knows what they would do to me :shaking:
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GANGRAPE!!!
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Doesn't USA have the best military tech in the world currently though?
Maybe aircraft, everything else is 50+ year old museum material.
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The M4A1 is most definately not 50 year old material. Nor is the M9, M1A2 Abrams (granted those are recycled), M249, and LAWs 66 and 80, Blackhawks, Apaches, and Super Cobras. Let's not forget the M95, M107, or M134. M40A4s are also not 50+ years old, since those are all still made by hand. M203s are, but those work well enough to stay in service. M16s have gone through so many evolutions as to hardly be the 1960s models in anything but name. M60s are still used because they work, and work well. We've retired most of our older ships, and our current ships are some of the best in the world (though, granted, most 1st rate navies don't engage each other that often, so there isn't really a benchmark).
Universally, the US has the "best" military in the world, though I freely admit that other countries best us in one way or another. There just isn't one that bests us in all of them, or even half of them (I realize "them" is a nebulous term here, but you know what I mean).
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The M4 is a carbinized M16, which is close to a 50 year-old design, I still say it's worthless, since there's stuff that outperform it in lifetime 20-fold, weighs even less, is more durable, and cheaper to produce (M8 prototype anyone, it did all of this).
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The M8 also melted the grip off its barrel when put through a field durability test. Kind of like an M60 when fired continuously, but with more plastic getting in the way. Reliability also has a lot do with field use. The older designs have solutions for literally everything that could possibly go wrong.
I also notice that the M4 is the only thing you took issue with. As we say in debate, "silence is compliance"
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Let us remember that equipment isn't everything, training and discipline play a large part.
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The M8 also melted the grip off its barrel when put through a field durability test. Kind of like an M60 when fired continuously, but with more plastic getting in the way. Reliability also has a lot do with field use. The older designs have solutions for literally everything that could possibly go wrong.
I also notice that the M4 is the only thing you took issue with. As we say in debate, "silence is compliance"
Because the M4 is the main standard issue weapon of all U.S. Armed Forces EVERYONE recieves training on it, I could care less about the M249, M240, M60, M2, M136, M203, M9 because only certain people per unit get those.
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The Berretta M9 is the standard side-arm of the United States army. EVERYONE uses those too. The M249 is present in nearly every fireteam, it fills the part of the Squad Automatic Weapon, hence its nickname, the SAW. 1 in 4 is large enough to care. M60 filled that slot before it did. M203 is found with every grenadier in the military, since its the underslung grenade launcher on M16s and M4s.
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The Berretta M9 is the standard side-arm of the United States army. EVERYONE uses those too. The M249 is present in nearly every fireteam, it fills the part of the Squad Automatic Weapon, hence its nickname, the SAW. 1 in 4 is large enough to care. M60 filled that slot before it did. M203 is found with every grenadier in the military, since its the underslung grenade launcher on M16s and M4s.
No, only most Officers use them, I have yet to TOUCH one after 2.5 years of service. No, despite having five squads there two people in only two squads that have an M249 in each Platoon. Yes, now there's the M240 for that. Sure, if my unit had any M203s to begin with, the only weapon every person actually gets training on is the M16/M4.
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The Berretta M9 is the standard side-arm of the United States army. EVERYONE uses those too.
Just to clarify, as Zane pointed out, most soldiers don't get to carry sidearms.
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What unit are you? :confused:
My dad is a career major, S2 for one of the 82nd Airborne Brigades, and the battalion he was attached to used M4s and M249s I was in error. The one per team is for the heavy weapons squad of the platoon, my mistake. However, point still stands that just because you don't use it doesn't mean it isn't important.
And I know what I'm talking about with the M 203. My dad (before being commissioned) was the grenadier for his squad, and I've lost count of the times he's talked about the grenade jackets/bandoliers for his M203 (another 40 lbs of gear for a jump)
EDIT before the post: Okay, I concede the sidearms point. Call of Duty has lied to me once again.
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Call of Duty
:wakka:
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Massive numbers tend not to stand up so well to carpet-bombing. :p If anything, it's those several dozen hostiles hiding in a civilian neighborhood or mountain cave that are the real ***** to deal with.
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I'll split this later. For the record, not every organisational structure includes heavy weapons squads. Not every organisation uses the term squads in fact.
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Let us remember that equipment isn't everything, training and discipline play a large part.
And numbers too.
Numbers fail against superior weapons and training. See: the Zulu Wars. Also, though the engagement is rather infamous, Somalia 1993.
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Numbers fail against superior weapons and training. See: the Zulu Wars. Also, though the engagement is rather infamous, Somalia 1993.
Gulf One was more or less the great feared NATO vs. Warsaw Pact war in miniature. The Iraqi army and especially the Republican Guard were trained to Soviet standards and quite good by them. They all but evaporated in the face of much smaller US and French units.
The conception of vast numbers being able to defeat an army is long dead.
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So we just sat it out did we:wtf:
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I can't actually recall any major engagement featuring both Republican Guard and Brit units...sorry. :P
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:blah:
What about me? I'm going to college to be a gunsmith, so I look up stuff like that for fun. My dad is a retired, 26 year service Intelligence major for one of the 82nd Airborne Brigades. I was enough of an army brat to be able to name every aircraft that had ever flown in combat (or military service) up to 1998 by age five.
IIRC there wasn't a major engagement between the RGFC and the British contingent, but the RAF bombed the hell out of a couple of the brigades.
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You gave information based off Call of Duty. :P
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Only the misconception that M9s were standard issue :P Everything else was from experience talking to my dad.
And a quick check with him confims no major engagements between British forces and the RGFC in the Persian Gulf War.
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Experiences differ between location and time, I'm in the 1st ID Division Headquarters and Grenadiers don't exist in our unit, and the Squad Support role is oddly distributed throughout squads.
I don't think a four-man squad should have two sodding M249s. :P
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Experiences differ between location and time, I'm in the 1st ID Division Headquarters and Grenadiers don't exist in our unit, and the Squad Support role is oddly distributed throughout squads.
I don't think a four-man squad should have two sodding M249s. :P
Also differing functions. Normally, squads are 9-13 people, with two fire teams of 3-5 with a Corporal, all lead by a Sergeant acting as sqaud leader. One M249 per team is reasonable, since teams are the smallest units that should be operating independently.
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Yay, HLP wuvs Zods!
:P @ Dekker
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The fireteams in my Platoon are our squads. :P