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Off-Topic Discussion => Arts & Talents => Topic started by: ktistai228 on October 25, 2009, 01:43:31 pm
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Ok, so we finally go official.
http://starships.wikia.com/wiki/Starships_Wiki (http://starships.wikia.com/wiki/Starships_Wiki) opens its gates and awaits you all. Our goal is to find, document and note every spaceship seen in games, movies, comics, real life and a lot more, but as that is an immense task, for starters we are documenting FreeSpace and FreeSpace mods ships.
Still, StarShips needs a logo. So, as I am no artist and none of my friends volunteered for this I bring the challenge to the best gaming community I've seen thus far. So anyone who is interested, post your ideas here, and maybe we'll pick yours.
Secondly, StarShips gladly accepts new editors, as school, real life, and playing FreeSpace takes a good bit of our spare time. So, anyone who is interested just go ahead and add new ships, correct the old ones, restructure, and whatever you want. Although, to be noted, if you want to do something big its better to contact me first.
So my dear friends, I await your help and your presence on our website.
Best Regards,
Luke
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That's a rather tall order. :nervous:
I can help edit problem entries for spelling, grammar, etc. and probably be able to put up a few entries on Star Wars stuff, but that's about it.
For the logo, maybe go with an instantly recognizable ship? (I don't think that's the actual Enterprise, but it looks cool)
(http://scifiwire.com/assets_c/2009/02/StarTrek_enterprise_wall01_1280-thumb-550x293-13909.jpg)
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well, we thought of that, but if we go with an instantly recognizable ship from one universe, what do we do with the rest of them?
great picture by the way.
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Hrm, it wouldn't let me sign up without putting a punctuation mark in my name for some reason :confused:
Anyway, working on cleaning up the FreeSpace overview entry.
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So... you need logo or icon? Should it depict capital ship or a smaller spacecraft or does it not matter? How will it appear on the site design?
If you need icon-sized images, help yourself:
(http://users.tkk.fi/~lmiettun/Kuvat/FS2_Open/perseus_SCP_icon_48.png) (http://users.tkk.fi/~lmiettun/Kuvat/FS2_Open/SCP_Perseus_icon-mipmapped.ico)
(http://users.tkk.fi/~lmiettun/Kuvat/TBP-icons/B5-new-icon_256.png)(http://users.tkk.fi/~lmiettun/Kuvat/TBP-icons/B5-new-icon_128.png)(http://users.tkk.fi/~lmiettun/Kuvat/TBP-icons/B5-new-icon_64.png)(http://users.tkk.fi/~lmiettun/Kuvat/TBP-icons/B5-new-icon_48.png)(http://users.tkk.fi/~lmiettun/Kuvat/TBP-icons/B5-new-icon_32.png)(http://users.tkk.fi/~lmiettun/Kuvat/TBP-icons/B5-new-icon_16.png)
(http://users.tkk.fi/~lmiettun/Kuvat/TBP-icons/B5-Escort-Aurora_icon_256.png)(http://users.tkk.fi/~lmiettun/Kuvat/TBP-icons/B5-Escort-Aurora_icon_128.png)(http://users.tkk.fi/~lmiettun/Kuvat/TBP-icons/B5-Escort-Aurora_icon_64.png)(http://users.tkk.fi/~lmiettun/Kuvat/TBP-icons/B5-Escort-Aurora_icon_48.png)(http://users.tkk.fi/~lmiettun/Kuvat/TBP-icons/B5-Escort-Aurora_icon_32.png)(http://users.tkk.fi/~lmiettun/Kuvat/TBP-icons/B5-Escort-Aurora_icon_16.png)
(http://users.tkk.fi/~lmiettun/Kuvat/TBP-icons/B5-battlecrab-icon_red_256.png)(http://users.tkk.fi/~lmiettun/Kuvat/TBP-icons/B5-battlecrab-icon_red_128.png)(http://users.tkk.fi/~lmiettun/Kuvat/TBP-icons/B5-battlecrab-icon_red_64.png)(http://users.tkk.fi/~lmiettun/Kuvat/TBP-icons/B5-battlecrab-icon_red_48.png)(http://users.tkk.fi/~lmiettun/Kuvat/TBP-icons/B5-battlecrab-icon_red_32.png)(http://users.tkk.fi/~lmiettun/Kuvat/TBP-icons/B5-battlecrab-icon_red_16.png)
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I signed up without a punctuation mark
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It wouldn't let me, and I tried all four of my normal screennames.
EDIT: Okay, now the main FreeSpace page actually looks like a wiki entry.
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Just got bookmarked
Can i suggest talking to these guys to try and get additional content onboard
Dispora
http://www.diaspora-game.com/
These guys are working on Battlestar Galactica based mod for FS
Wing Commander Saga
http://www.wcsaga.com/
Self explanatory really and have very in depth knowledge of the ships including some concepts that were never implemented
Fate of the Galaxy
http://swc.hard-light.net/
doing a Star Wars conversion
The Babylon Project
http://babylon.hard-light.net/
Babylon 5 conversion
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So, what would be the best option for listing FreeSpace ships there?
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Right now he has them set up in lists, first by canon/non-canon, then by species, then by type (cruiser, fighter, destroyer and larger, etc.).
I would recommend Having a few more pages. First by species (so, page on Vasudans, page on Terrans, page on Shivans, page on Ancients, etc.), then by type (page on cruiser, page on fighter, etc. Maybe lump corvettes into cruiser page, since there are only a few of them), then have the list of ships.
So, it would go FreeSpace ---> Terran ---> Cruisers ---> Aeolus or something like that, instead of FreeSpace ---> canon ---> Aeolus.
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Do we want to take info directly from our wiki or do we want to set up a new format for the pages. It looks as though we may be helping to set the tone of future pages there.
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I think the best way to do it would be to transplant most of the material from the wiki, excluding maybe the default weapons table and other minor stuff, then add an out-of-universe description and overview. Now that I think about it, the out-of-universe view should probably be first (if not out-of-universe, then at least out-of-game-mechanic :ick:)
Basically, have the basic specs like speed, acceleration, dimensions, stuff like that, then an in-universe description (ala tech room), and finally an out-of-universe summary, not unlike our Veteran Comments possibly, but less oriented to an ingame perspective.
Right now the format is nothing. He has the name, the stats in double spaced blocks, sometimes the tech room description, sometimes not, and then his (or possibly his friends') badly un-grammared take on the ship.
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For some reason, I can't move the damn pictures on any of the pages without my computer locking up. Can someone please move the "Conflict: FreeSpace: The Great War" picture on the "FreeSpace" page down to the "Descent: FreeSpace: The Great War" sub-heading?
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Moved
Do you want the FS2 one moved up?
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If you would it would help immensely.
How do you like how that page is formatted? I'm trying to make most of them like that, but it's slow going.
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The ship formatting is all messed up on the right there. But I think the main page needs to be kept small. If we're going to link to different races and list the ships from there, we might want to just list them off of there.
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so I say to you good morning and I'm taking a peak on what you have done. ok, i agree, the new format is better and so is the listing of the ships.
I apologize for any of the grammar problems, as you can probably guess I'm not a native speaker.
About the descriptions. StarShips was meant for the fans of Sci-Fi in general, not to particular groups, so the descriptions have to be a little from an outside point of view. You can add to my personal descriptions with your own, just don't substitute mine. Some ships don't have a tech description simply because i couldn't find one.
about the specs, I tried to as much as possible encompass only the ones that can be related in real life, unlike hit points, but where i couldn't do that, i just gave their normal specs(like for example that bloody ogame)
i'm starting to feel a little bad about not doing a good job.
see you when I get back.
Best Regards,
Luke
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I also suggest splitting this topic and sending our wiki talk somewhere else. This should only be about the logo, right?
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I'll handle the grammar stuff, no sweat. Type it up and I'll sort it out.
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Well IDK bout any of you... but when I think of classic and instantly reconisable ships, I think X-Wing.
So here you go. Whipped this up in 10 minutes (with distractions on other things)
I know its crap. And I'm not expecting you to use it. It's just an idea I thought I'd throw out there.
(http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/4652/xwing.gif)
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I think by picking an instantly recognizable ship, you run the risk of branding the site as that universe. Maybe a rotating logo of various ships?
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Rather, just come up with your own, yet somehow adding something that instantly relates to SciFi.
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indeed that is my opinion too. as for the logo, I should of mentioned it before.
See the Moloch ripping a hole in that Deimos on the superior right part of the wiki? that's what I need replaced. the ideea with a rotating logo could work.
I will be home in about 3 hours and will give you a helping hand.
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I will be home in 26 hours, and will be able to do more then.
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Ok... so we need a list of ships for the rotating logo.
Ones which are well known:
X-wing (Star Wars)
USS Enterprise (Star Trek)
GTD Orion (Freespace)
The ship out of Decent (Does anyone actually know what it is called? Cause I dont) (Decent)
Red Dwarf (Red Dwarf)
Battlestar Galactica (Battlestar Galactica) (Don't you just love it when the show is named after the ship?)
And on a more recent note,
USG Ichimura (Dead Space)
Forward Unto Dawn (Halo)
And more
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well... I dunno... :confused:
I agreed more to Stormkeeper, so to come up with our own logo, not take ships from other universes and lumping them all together.
Also, is anyone working on the FreeSpace page on StarShips, as I would like to start working, but I don't want to override with someone.
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You want to make up a ship?
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not necessarily a starship. Something that is related to all the sci-fi universes.
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I think that would be "space" ;)
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A planet? (http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php?topic=41939.0)
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could be. also, one more thing. since BlueLion, Stormkeeper and Scotty are helping out with StarShips, I think their opinion counts too, not only mine and Death0angels.
i like the planet idea, but I feel there is something missing to it.
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Maybe a planet with an engine trail cutting across part of it. It gets the "spaceship" message across without having to actually show a specific ship.
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Mongooses' idea sounds good. But the trail should be subtle without smacking you in the face.
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maybe you could ask one of the modders to make a model for you... then fred it into a mission and take a screenshot