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Title: A REALLY cool campaign modeling idea thingy
Post by: Corhellion on April 07, 2002, 07:01:18 am
Greetings everyone:

This will be my first post on the HLP forums.

I got this idea, but it is a little weird, so bare with me...

Some friends and I are doing a *ahem* "lego space based story"
I know, I know, it's lego, but hell, it's useful!( I built an Orion once!)

I came up with a WHOLE lota ships, from cruisers, to battleships, and a Flagship(like the Collossus, but not so much eye candy, if you think 30+ beams is eye candy, bet wear eye glasses, lol)

But, they have an enemy, The Vhishnue, a diabolical alien race, which is numeruos in size, but they aren't like the shivans, they can be killed/massacred, but they can still kick butt, they don't have a flagship, but the have LOADS of cap ships, cruiser, corvettes, and a ship called a "BattleDestroyer", with the same capabilities of a Battleship.

So, I'm just warmin' up, I would like(if it is possible) for some of the modelers out there, if they have the chance, to make some(not all, dear god, there's like...30 different ships!) of the ships from it, I'm gonna give the url soon, hold on.

What ships, easy, for the ITA(good guys)
 2 cruiser:Superior, and Toho
 1 corvette: Dagger
 1 Battleship: Draco 2
 3 fighters/bombers: Herculanium MK2, Hawker, and Raptor

 And for the VE(Bad guys)
2 cruisers: Thunder(not named after the guy, sry thunder), Lightning
1 corvette: Fensilling(don't tell me how I figured that one up)
1 BattleDestroyer: Battleaxe (cause it looks like a battleaxe :p)
3 fighters/bombers: Venix, Vulture, Shandrakor

well, that's about it, now, for the URL,  there are two of 'em.

http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?m=Corhellion
/\/\ this is my "Brickshelf" account, go check it out, has almost all of my models
and...
http://www.geocities.com/corhellion666/ITA_website.html
/\/\ this is the ITA(Intergalactic Terran Alliance) website, has all the info you need on the requested ships, go check 'em out!

well, that was a long post :p but if anyone would like to give it a shot, they are more than welcome too.

well, that's it.

Cya
GADM. Wes Corhellion Prewer
Title: A REALLY cool campaign modeling idea thingy
Post by: The SLOTH! on April 07, 2002, 01:58:47 pm
WELCOME TO THE HARD LIGHT PRODUCTIONS FORUM!! :D :D :D
Title: A REALLY cool campaign modeling idea thingy
Post by: Reaper on April 07, 2002, 02:27:07 pm
Yes, welcome, we hope you will feal nice here...

And i see you like lego  ;7:yes:
Title: A REALLY cool campaign modeling idea thingy
Post by: LtNarol on April 07, 2002, 02:44:09 pm
a few things:

1. Tanks wont work well in the FS2 engine, fs2 only supports free moving objects in all 3 dimensions and last i checked, you couldnt (using fred2) prevent an object from rolling.  Meaning a tank wont stay right side up.

2. I can help you to an extent, but my models always end up with geometry problems (small gaps between polys, forming see-through seams).

3. Legos rock, many of my better modeling creations are based off of Legos.  Here are just a few:
(http://www.3dap.com/hlp/hosted/the158th/def.jpg)
(http://www.3dap.com/hlp/hosted/the158th/fc.jpg)
(http://www.3dap.com/hlp/hosted/the158th/misc/gtb1r.jpg)
Title: A REALLY cool campaign modeling idea thingy
Post by: CP5670 on April 07, 2002, 02:55:29 pm
I'm into Legos a lot as well; check this out: http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=10501 :D (somewhat outdated now; I'll put up more images when the model is complete)
Title: A REALLY cool campaign modeling idea thingy
Post by: Corhellion on April 07, 2002, 03:52:30 pm
Every and all the help is GREAT, the more the marrier!

and LTNarol thx for your help and yes, LEGO'S ROCK!!

And I don't plan on use "ground" warfare in a space sim, might be interesting, but it will never fly.(execpt the tank in starfox, it hovered)

I plan on making a small campaign right in the middle of the ITA/VE war(around 2308), There will be 1 (playable) squad in it, and you're going to be the wingleader of the 666th Hellions(the logo is already in the game:)). They are a space superiority/heavy assault/bomber squad (so if anyone who likes those kinds of squads, then they are gonna love this mod!!)

I'm also looking for a name for the campaign, anyone who has an idea for it is greatly appreciated :nod:

I'm going to be doing some of the missions, although my fred2 keeps f***ing up on me :mad: ( sry had to swear)

But, I'm not going to post another long post, so I'll end it here.

Cya

GADM. Wes "Corhellion" Prewer
Title: A REALLY cool campaign modeling idea thingy
Post by: LtNarol on April 07, 2002, 05:09:26 pm
everyone loves multi-purpose squads, they're the most fun.  I suggest you get the mod done before you start fredding, and since this is going to be a total conversion, i suggest you find someone who knows tables like the back of his hand because you're going to be doing a lot of screwing with tables.
Title: Oh ya, I forgot about them
Post by: Corhellion on April 07, 2002, 07:11:15 pm
THX for reminding me, I almost totally forgot, I need new table files.

If anyone knows how to do them, or can send a link to how I can learn to use em, it would be GREATLY appreciated.

But, that would be...about...3 new primary's, and......about......6 secondaries, maybe 7 :p

should've thought about that earlier :doh:

Anyways, if anyone else wants to help out, there is more than enough room for people to join, still waiting for someone to come up with a name for the campaign :p

well, that's it

Cya

GADM. Wes "Corhellion" Prewer
Title: A REALLY cool campaign modeling idea thingy
Post by: Kamikaze on April 07, 2002, 07:36:10 pm
I can do tables so I might be able to help ya. Look at the "can someone make a weapon for me" thread for an example...
Title: Cool
Post by: Corhellion on April 07, 2002, 08:20:29 pm
I like, you are quite a weapons dude :cool:

Could you possibly do the RKN(Archon) Cannon, like the Prometheus only bluey white, instead of greeny white :p

and the Pharos Cannon, that is like the...Flail, or Morning star, but less kenetic and more hull busting capabilities, and it's red, and orange, medium fire,

and the Rail-gun, nothin but a Hull buster, extreme hull damge, about 12, and only 3 shield damage,(it's an anti-cap ship weapon)
it will be blue, and green, with a trail, and take up a considerable amount of energy, like the kiaser, only more engery consumption

So, I hope you can do all that, It' pretty stray forward stuff (I think)

But, other than that, there will be bombs too(Oh joy, Oh Bliss :D)

And, still:

I NEED A NAME FOR THE CAMPAIGN, PLZ SEND IN YOUR IDEAS THEY ARE ALL GREATLY APPRECIATED

Well, that's all for now

Cya

GADM. Wes "Corhellion" Prewer
Title: A REALLY cool campaign modeling idea thingy
Post by: Kamikaze on April 07, 2002, 08:26:50 pm
Okay, I'll get working on those ideas soon. I'll post screenshots when I get them working well :nod:

BTW: have you considered getting the campaign hosted at HLP? :) It'd be good considering they give us space.
Title: WOAH, now I thought this wasn't THAT good!
Post by: Corhellion on April 07, 2002, 08:40:38 pm
Woah, now, uh...OK

How do I get HLP to host the campaign, and do I have to make a new site? If I do, that's better than Ok!

I am still wanting somebody to think like the devil and think up a name for this Nameless Crusade...wait..just..a..second...Nameless Crusade, It has been crisanded, the Name for this Campaign is: Nameless Crusade, uh, maybe someone else could give it a shot (it's 9:30, that's late for me..brain..not..work...:snipe: )

And thx kamikazee, you shall get rewarded...although I don't know with what..yet, maybe a character in the TC...oh wow, ya!

Woah, 4 posts in 1 day, that's alot for me, I'll reply tomorrow

I'm goin' to bed, and think about the wonders of space, subspace, and beam cannons piercing my head.......ARGH!!! :snipe:

*chuckles* Cya

GADM. Wes "Corhellion" Prewer
Title: Re: WOAH, now I thought this wasn't THAT good!
Post by: Kamikaze on April 07, 2002, 09:12:00 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Corhellion
How do I get HLP to host the campaign, and do I have to make a new site? If I do, that's better than Ok!

I am still wanting somebody to think like the devil and think up a name for this Nameless Crusade...wait..just..a..second...Nameless Crusade, It has been crisanded, the Name for this Campaign is: Nameless Crusade, uh, maybe someone else could give it a shot (it's 9:30, that's late for me..brain..not..work...:snipe: )
ewer


It says in the on the main page somewhere under "hosted" - I can't remember off the top of my head. You shouldn't have to make a new site they'll just put yours on the HLP server. :nod: (unless you want to of course)

Also 'bout the name - Give us more story/plot details and it'd be easier. Like my campaign is called what it is (in the sig) because... uhhh.... ermm... I've gotta stop talking :p (there's a reason)

Cheers,
Kamikaze :)
Title: It'll be hosted (hopefully) soon
Post by: Corhellion on April 08, 2002, 06:17:31 am
I'm gonna give Setekh an e-mail right now and send him my website, I will probably need another website too, to upload the campaign.

Now, about the campaign itself, It takes place about 3 months before a HUGE battle, in the campaign, you do everything, assault supply ships (which will be cruisers), bombing big cap ships, and defending cap ships, reconnaisance, and be on the recieving end of a HUGE battlefleet, and no one knows about it, so, you have to get home alive and report everything you saw to the CO, and the last, I think 3 missions, are gonna be BIG cap ship action, 2 BIG fleets duke it out (about 15 ships per fleet, about 30 cap ships in total!!). Hope that was informative, if not, uh...I can't help you :p

And Kamakazi, THX THX THX, if you can get them working, could you see if I could get them to work on my FS2? Just test it before a public release (I'm gonna release the components in small public releases, weapons first, then the ships, then the campaign, hopefully, it will cut down on the size of the campaign (hopefully, I hate loooooong downloads :p)

Well, that's it

Cya

GADM. Wes "Corhellion" Prewer
Title: A REALLY cool campaign modeling idea thingy
Post by: TrashMan on April 08, 2002, 07:06:09 am
The minotaur looks like my Phoenix!
(http://www.inet.hr/~tstanici/Images/Fighterpatrol.jpg)
Title: A REALLY cool campaign modeling idea thingy
Post by: LtNarol on April 08, 2002, 08:22:15 am
nah, the minotaur looks better :p
Title: A REALLY cool campaign modeling idea thingy
Post by: Anaz on April 08, 2002, 04:59:07 pm
where do you guys get the lego cad software?
Title: A REALLY cool campaign modeling idea thingy
Post by: LAW ENFORCER on April 08, 2002, 05:35:33 pm
From Lego Software(TM) The ULTIMATE modular software!
Title: A REALLY cool campaign modeling idea thingy
Post by: Anaz on April 08, 2002, 06:10:51 pm
:rolleyes:

and I get that where..?
Title: A REALLY cool campaign modeling idea thingy
Post by: Stryke 9 on April 08, 2002, 06:13:33 pm
Showoffs.:p

Upper left- there's a reason it looks cubic.:D
(http://www.wpierce.com/wlp/FS2/coalition.jpg)
Title: A REALLY cool campaign modeling idea thingy
Post by: Anaz on April 08, 2002, 06:26:30 pm
ah ha! I found it!! MLcad, no thanks to you guys :p
Title: A REALLY cool campaign modeling idea thingy
Post by: WMCoolmon on April 08, 2002, 10:41:52 pm
Sorry I'm late... :o
(http://members.cox.net/wmcoolmon/images/welcome.gif) :nod:
Title: A REALLY cool campaign modeling idea thingy
Post by: LtNarol on April 08, 2002, 10:46:50 pm
Quote
Originally posted by WMCoolmon
Sorry I'm late... :o
(http://members.cox.net/wmcoolmon/images/welcome.gif) :nod:
ah yes...*clears throat*:

Welcome to HLP, exits are to the right in the back, in the case of an emergency, shotguns are located under the seats.  Have a nice day.
Title: A REALLY cool campaign modeling idea thingy
Post by: CP5670 on April 08, 2002, 10:52:48 pm
There seem to be several lego programs: LDraw, MLCad, LeoCad, etc. I use LeoCad because it has a big technic part library.
Title: Re: It'll be hosted (hopefully) soon
Post by: Kamikaze on April 08, 2002, 10:54:18 pm
Quote
Originally posted by Corhellion
I'm gonna give Setekh an e-mail right now and send him my website, I will probably need another website too, to upload the campaign.

Now, about the campaign itself, It takes place about 3 months before a HUGE battle, in the campaign, you do everything, assault supply ships (which will be cruisers), bombing big cap ships, and defending cap ships, reconnaisance, and be on the recieving end of a HUGE battlefleet, and no one knows about it, so, you have to get home alive and report everything you saw to the CO, and the last, I think 3 missions, are gonna be BIG cap ship action, 2 BIG fleets duke it out (about 15 ships per fleet, about 30 cap ships in total!!). Hope that was informative, if not, uh...I can't help you :p

And Kamakazi, THX THX THX, if you can get them working, could you see if I could get them to work on my FS2? Just test it before a public release (I'm gonna release the components in small public releases, weapons first, then the ships, then the campaign, hopefully, it will cut down on the size of the campaign (hopefully, I hate loooooong downloads :p)

Well, that's it

Cya

GADM. Wes "Corhellion" Prewer


Okay, I've got a very basic version of those weapons running but they don't quite look like I anticipated so I'll be redoing the tables and fidgeting here and there. When I'm done I'll send them to you. :)

'Bout the huge battle mission. 30 ships will be a pretty hard strain on the FS2 game engine - also it'll be pretty cluttered (From experience) so what I suggest is bitmaps in these missions showing big fleets and having only a few ships that are showing - which is the area you are battling in. But it's your campaign - so do as you like (just making suggestions) :)

BTW: A very belated WELCOME TO THE HLPBB :D
Shotguns are under the seats, unfortunately only the admins have the other weapons :nod:
Title: A REALLY cool campaign modeling idea thingy
Post by: Corhellion on April 09, 2002, 03:09:38 pm
Ah, yes, the BIG battle, it'll be split up in 3 smaller battles, with the last one with about 20 ships (not 30 :p)

And THX, and what do you mean,"they don't quite look like I anticipated", is it a good phrase or bad phrase? As long as they look cool, that's fine, tweak to your hearts content.

I think I'll put up more views of my ships, I can't do the cruisers, and 4 fighters, and the corvettes :p I can up pics of the rest though (so all is not lost).

Well, that's it for now

Cya

GADM. Wes "Corhellion" Prewer
Title: uhh, I need a name for this nameless campaign!!!
Post by: Corhellion on April 10, 2002, 04:27:02 pm
I am stumped at this one thing in the campaign, it's name :p

I know, I know, should've thought about it earlier, but I just have a writers block, I can't think of a name for it.

I came up with "Nameless Crusade" :confused: I know, I was half asleep when I wrote that one.

It has to have a name that sums up what it is in about 3 or more words (max is 5 words), something like "Battle Horizon" or something like that, something that "fits" the theme.

and I D/Led Blender so I can hopefully take a load off some of the work load :)

Well, thats it, OH, and Kamikazi,how are the weapons coming along?

Cya

GADM. Wes "Corhellion" Prewer
Title: hehehehehehe
Post by: TrashMan on April 11, 2002, 05:34:30 am
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nah, the minotaur looks better


In your dreams, maby!!!:doubt: