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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: Gortef on November 11, 2009, 05:06:15 am
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Now here's a mouse for ya...
(http://www.openofficemouse.com/branding/images/OOmouse_model.png)
Source:
http://www.openofficemouse.com/pr110609.html
I can't stop laughing :lol:
But seriously, without actually trying it it's not fair to judge but damn it looks so... so... unpractical.
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That's not a mouse.
It's a keyboard mounted on an optical sensor.
EDIT: With a piece of gamecube controller stuck on the side for good measure.
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If FSO had better mouse control support, that might be an interesting control device to try out...
...You'd literally have most of the conrols at your fingertips!
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I love the joystick on the side, would be great for fps games, but that is way too many buttons.
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Stupid render is stupid.
Although i'd like a go for novelty sake.
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i think any more than 8 buttons on a mouse is ridiculous. but i find that on mice with a lot of non standard buttons, half of them dont work without installing some bloated software on your comp, and even then most of them never get used. my current logitech bluetooth laser mouse for example, i can use maybe 5 of the 8 buttons in most games, though the middle button is hard to use most of the time. two of them mirror the function of the scroll wheel and the other one doesnt work without installing the software. while the sidescroll works in some applications, its completely unbindable in games. i might open it up and rewire the buttons so that i can use that 3rd thumb button as middle mouse, and the scroll wheel button can be the useless button you cant use without the crappy software.
if i were to design a mouse, id give it a 4 pack of buttons up top (2 each side), about 3 thumb buttons and id eliminate the scroll wheel in exchange for a ministick (which can be configured either as a joystick or 2 axis scroller). that or id go with 2 thumb buttons put the ministich down theire for the thumb, and include a simple scroll wheel. though microsoft has been doing experiments where the top of the mouse is essentially a touchpad with areas that can be sliced up and mapped out as buttons, axes, whatever. while its cute i still think a mouse needs to click.
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Better have a don't try to use if you have big fingers disclaimer.
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I wouldn't mind a mouse with that many buttons, if they were actually placed ergonomically. That one looks like it would be very uncomfortable to use. I often find that my 8-button (6 in practice, as two are used for sensitivity changes) MX518 doesn't have enough of them.
my current logitech bluetooth laser mouse for example, i can use maybe 5 of the 8 buttons in most games, though the middle button is hard to use most of the time.
You can use the Logitech driver to remap them to keys, which can be detected by games. I do that in almost every game where I use the mouse.
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The mouse amuses me.
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though microsoft has been doing experiments where the top of the mouse is essentially a touchpad with areas that can be sliced up and mapped out as buttons, axes, whatever. while its cute i still think a mouse needs to click.
Yea I've seen those videos where they show off some of their experimental controllers. Indeed most of them are pretty cute and neat... but I dunno.
I'm happy with my Razer Lachesis. Though... Razer Naga could be fun to try out.
http://www.razerzone.com/gaming-mice/razer-naga/
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I'm kind of content with two buttons and a scroll-wheel myself. Though having horizontal scrolling might be useful.
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The obvious answer to this is a mouse with no buttons but a great marketing and slightly retro-futuristic look
we could call it...
iMouse
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Actually, it's called the Mighty Mouse. :rolleyes:
It has but one [main] button, two side buttons which are generally inconveniant (and not terribly noticable), and an omnidirectional scroll wheel.
... ... ...
I wouldn't mind having a Mac, but I need my two-button mouse...
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It'll be a hit with the open source crowd, but when nobody else buys one (because it's overly complicated and hard to use) they'll crack a huge sad and blame it on the proprietary software conspiracy.... :rolleyes:
I wouldn't mind having a Mac, but I need my two-button mouse...
Uhh... Mac OS has supported multi button mice for over a decade now, MS even make Mac drivers for their range of mice. Not only that, but once you get used to it, the single button isn't that big of an issue. The UI and well-designed apps all take the single button into account. I bought a two button mouse to go with my MacBook two years ago and I almost never use it, it just stays in the bag.
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That's a similar argument to why not cut off your legs so that you can use a wheelchair
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Not every OS becomes near-unusable over the loss of a single button. The overwhelming majority of people that crap on about the single mouse button don't understand that because they either haven't used Mac OS at all or haven't used it long enough for it to fully sink in. I know, because I used to be one of them. Once I was able to use Mac OS for more than a few minutes at a time I found a large number of the UI conventions I complained about in the past were either fixed or just weren't that big of a deal. Mind you, there are still a couple I find mind-numbingly retarded (Command+O to open stuff and Enter to rename, for example) but even those aren't terribly difficult to adapt to.
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:lol: @ mouse
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Not every OS becomes near-unusable over the loss of a single button. The overwhelming majority of people that crap on about the single mouse button don't understand that because they either haven't used Mac OS at all or haven't used it long enough for it to fully sink in. I know, because I used to be one of them. Once I was able to use Mac OS for more than a few minutes at a time I found a large number of the UI conventions I complained about in the past were either fixed or just weren't that big of a deal. Mind you, there are still a couple I find mind-numbingly retarded (Command+O to open stuff and Enter to rename, for example) but even those aren't terribly difficult to adapt to.
I grew up on Mac OS. And no, the single button mouse is not unbearable, but I do prefer the two-button mouse. That second click makes technical programs much easier to work with. And I always thought that the "command-[letter]" functions always made sense... But that's just me. ;)
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I wouldn't mind a mouse with that many buttons, if they were actually placed ergonomically. That one looks like it would be very uncomfortable to use. I often find that my 8-button (6 in practice, as two are used for sensitivity changes) MX518 doesn't have enough of them.
my current logitech bluetooth laser mouse for example, i can use maybe 5 of the 8 buttons in most games, though the middle button is hard to use most of the time.
You can use the Logitech driver to remap them to keys, which can be detected by games. I do that in almost every game where I use the mouse.
unfortunately this is one of the rare cases where the hardware works better without the software. it would require me to use logitech's ****ty bluetooth stack, which makes me reconnect my mouse and keyboard every 6 seconds and it doesnt work for wiimotes. it also prevents the keyboard from working in the bios screen. even then im limited to the few keys it lets me select in the dropdown box. no thank you. id rather get the soldering iron out and rewire the damn thing.
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One good use for that mouse is "Most Clicked Button". You'd probably get banned because the guy would think youwere using a macro. I got banned because I used "Mouse Keys" and it was able to make use of the "repeat" function that keyboards have... :drevil:
One of the good uses for additional functions on mouses/mice can be found here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K15GdheA6Sc
;)
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The old Macintosh mouse is a bit unwieldy, even if you know that it has two buttons to the side and that the little ball at the front can be clicked with some difficulty.
This is why I still prefer my standard three-button mouse ... which was made by Microsoft. :p
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i liked old macs. its amazing what you can do with an os that fits entirely on a single floppy disk. the one button mouse didnt bother me because thats how the os was designed. windows was designed for a 2 button mouse and so its a requirement there. but from a gamers perspective you want between 4 and 8 functions on that mouse (8 being about the maximum you can use comfortably). i dont know why windows doesnt have a keymapping utility built in where you can assign any function to any control on any input device. i think linux can do that by editing config files. not sure about osx.
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Have any of you guys checked out apples new mouse?
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Oh yeah, I read a little about it on the Apple website. They call it the Magic Mouse, and from how I look at it, it has zero buttons. :wtf:
http://www.apple.com/magicmouse/
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Hrm... I still like being able to click and get some tactile feedback...
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Same here. Just like James May finds it weird to steer a car using twist-squeeze throttles and brakes on the steering wheel, I'm very certain that I'll feel a lot less secure using the Magic Mouse.
It might make an interesting topic at a computer geeks' party, though. "Hey, check out my zero-button mouse from Apple..."
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Huh. This "magic mouse" might actually be useful if the marketing is correct. Or it could just be an overpriced attempt to add useless features that no one will ever use in an attempt to make Macs look more modern than PC's.
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you took away my knobs and now you want to take away my buttons? **** YOU!
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goddamn my satire was obsolete from the beginning
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Huh. This "magic mouse" might actually be useful if the marketing is correct. Or it could just be an overpriced attempt to add useless features that no one will ever use in an attempt to make Macs look more modern than PC's.
As much as I like the multi touch scroll gesture on my MacBook (I have the right click gestures disabled because the standard one kept getting in the way of the scroll and it won't let me have two fingers + click while tap to click is enabled. My particular MacBook doesn't support the rest.), I'm not sure how it would work on a mouse. Looking at the reviews, they've altered some of the gestures in order to more closely replicate standard mouse actions. For instance, the scroll gesture is triggered with a single finger meaning you move to the centre and scroll like you would with a normal wheel mouse without thinking about it.
I'm not sure how well the multifinger gestures would work in that situation though. They may get uncomfortable after a while due to limited mobility of the fingers as a result of not being able to use the arm or wrist (which would be tied up holding the thing steady). Their software for ignoring accidental input would have to be pretty good as well since the entire surface is multitouch. If it can't adequately discern between genuine input and things like people resting their hands on it or minor movements of the fingers on the "buttons" then no matter how well the gestures work otherwise, it'll be too annoying to use.
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Perhaps they use the iPod's touchscreen technology, which is working well for me so far.
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touchscreen technology is nothing new, itd been around for at least a couple decades. frankly i always thought it was a bad idea to encourage users to poke at their lcds.
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I agree. Wouldn't touching the screen make the liquid crystal layer uneven?
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Plus, you wind up getting greasy fingerprints all over the thing. :p
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^this
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Actually, I think the Magic Mouse can still... click.
It's interesting, but I'm okay with my PC mouse... that I use on a Mac.
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so they put a pizo in the thing to emit a clicking sound when you touch a button area.
just not the same.
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or it does like those phones and vibrates.
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ewww, thats discusting, but leads to intresting cyber sex possibilities ;7
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mouse porn :nervous:
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/me is reminded of a Wii sex video that (probably) once existed on YouTube.
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Sure... if that's your thing.
But what I mean is a traditional click... Ah what the hell, let's go with the vibrating sex mouse.
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So they put a touch in your mouse so you can touch while you mouse?
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That's the essence of it...
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/me has successfully mindscrewed Androgeos.
:snipe:
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:bump:
Thanks to yours truly, this mouse now has a custom profile (http://www.warmouse.com/game_list.html) for FreeSpace. :drevil:
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This one is for the guy who made the collision detection code:
http://www.snenug.org/networkfun/stupida.pdf
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:bump:
Thanks to yours truly, this mouse now has a custom profile (http://www.warmouse.com/game_list.html) for FreeSpace. :drevil:
Wonder how that would work out... ... ... anyone wanna be a guineapig and try it? :p
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I think I'd hurt my hand.
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That's a similar argument to why not cut off your legs so that you can use a wheelchair
sorry to bump, but i couldn't let that go.
so full of win! :D