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Title: Meow Meow Meow Meow
Post by: Kosh on November 19, 2009, 12:47:13 am
 IBM simulates a feline brain (http://tech.yahoo.com/news/ap/20091118/ap_on_hi_te/us_tec_ibm_brain_mapping)


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A computer with the power of a human brain is not yet near. But this week researchers from IBM Corp. are reporting that they've simulated a cat's cerebral cortex, the thinking part of the brain, using a massive supercomputer. The computer has 147,456 processors (most modern PCs have just one or two processors) and 144 terabytes of main memory — 100,000 times as much as your computer has.

The scientists had previously simulated 40 percent of a mouse's brain in 2006, a rat's full brain in 2007, and 1 percent of a human's cerebral cortex this year, using progressively bigger supercomputers.

The latest feat, being presented at a supercomputing conference in Portland, Ore., doesn't mean the computer thinks like a cat, or that it is the progenitor of a race of robo-cats.

The simulation, which runs 100 times slower than an actual cat's brain, is more about watching how thoughts are formed in the brain and how the roughly 1 billion neurons and 10 trillion synapses in a cat's brain work together.


Pretty cool huh?
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Post by: General Battuta on November 19, 2009, 12:50:38 am
Holy ****, man. This stuff is real.
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Post by: Aardwolf on November 19, 2009, 12:51:06 am
Aw, I wanted a robotic kitty.
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Post by: High Max on November 19, 2009, 12:56:31 am
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Post by: FUBAR-BDHR on November 19, 2009, 01:02:08 am
Does the simulated cat brain have the urge to chase the simulated rat brain?
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Post by: blackhole on November 19, 2009, 01:40:59 am
Does the simulated cat brain have the urge to chase the simulated rat brain?

lol
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Post by: FUBAR-BDHR on November 19, 2009, 01:50:27 am
Also does it only run about 2 or 3 hours a day and go into sleep mode when it gets warm?
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Post by: Stormkeeper on November 19, 2009, 01:54:48 am
NEKO!!!
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Post by: Mongoose on November 19, 2009, 01:57:55 am
Holy ****, man. This stuff is real.
Yeah, seriously.  Imagine the implications--LASER POINTER!  GET IT GET IT GET IT!!! :p
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Post by: NGTM-1R on November 19, 2009, 02:18:00 am
So basically, they've not got the whole instinctual behavior part. That sorta ruins it.
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Post by: Colonol Dekker on November 19, 2009, 04:28:11 am
It doesn't even state if the thing has a knowledge base and/or external stimuli. It's only a simulation of the limit of our (IBMs) current undertanding of how a cat brain works.
 
 
Still. . . . . One step closer to SKYNET :yes: I want my phased plasma rifle with 40 watt range.
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Post by: Ziame on November 19, 2009, 07:49:08 am
You know what sucks? Games will use only two processors of all of them anyway ;(
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Post by: Dilmah G on November 19, 2009, 08:31:19 am
Still. . . . . One step closer to SKYNET :yes: I want my phased plasma rifle with 40 watt range.
Just without the Nuclear Apocalypse. :P
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Post by: Sushi on November 19, 2009, 10:14:34 am
I thought this was going to be about meow mix.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTunhRVyREU&feature=related
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Post by: Nuke on November 19, 2009, 11:31:44 am
ever built a city out of legos, then used a cat and laser [pointer to completely demolish that city. now emagine that scaled up to the real world (and you thought the airborn laser was part of a missile shield). you would have one serious weapon of mass destruction. MUAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Meow Meow Meow Meow
Post by: Kosh on November 19, 2009, 07:23:11 pm
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It's only a simulation of the limit of our (IBMs) current undertanding of how a cat brain works.


It's a simulation to extend that understanding.
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Post by: Colonol Dekker on November 20, 2009, 02:27:03 am
If they don't fully understand how a cats brain works already, how can they be sure the simulation is accurate and why publish that they've duplicated it in the first place? For that note i'm not all that impressed with the concept, unless they can map every neuron and synapse (not unlike the teleporter topic) then it won't be a genuine model, it'll be an interpretation which is subject to fall short of the originals potential. Which in my opinion renders the exercise pointless as they want to make a genuine simulated model right?
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Post by: General Battuta on November 20, 2009, 02:42:08 am
That's silly. You want them to go from [no simulated cat brain] to [perfectly simulated cat brain] without any intermediate steps, and you deride those intermediate steps as pointless?
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Post by: NGTM-1R on November 20, 2009, 03:35:03 am
True, but Dekker has a point. The simulation could be in error, introducing errors to the process and ultimately delaying it. We don't understand brain function so well that the possiblity can be discounted reasonably. Or at all. 50/50 is about as generous as I think is safe to get with this or previous attempts.
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Post by: Colonol Dekker on November 20, 2009, 04:39:59 am
That's silly. You want them to go from [no simulated cat brain] to [perfectly simulated cat brain] without any intermediate steps, and you deride those intermediate steps as pointless?

 
 
I'm not saying that. I'm saying they shouldn't announce that they've simulated a cerebral cortex til they're sure it is. For example, and bear with me as i'm deathly tired and this is only to get my perspective across; for example imagine that ibm are people who've never seen an aeroplane before. They assume the only characteristic of an aeroplane is the ability to fly. So they research and develop a helicopter and because it can fly they announce it as an aeroplane.
 
See I don't mind about the development process as long as the description is accurate.
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Post by: karajorma on November 20, 2009, 04:56:40 am
Also does it only run about 2 or 3 hours a day and go into sleep mode when it gets warm?

The computer or a cat? Cause I'm having trouble figuring out which you meant from your description. It could be either. :p
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Post by: Commander Zane on November 20, 2009, 05:43:31 am
NEKO!!!
Nyan nyan~
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Post by: Nuclear1 on November 20, 2009, 07:26:28 am
I can has diskchek?
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Post by: High Max on November 20, 2009, 07:10:46 pm
*_*
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Post by: Nuclear1 on November 20, 2009, 10:44:13 pm
Totally missing the point.
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Post by: Scotty on November 20, 2009, 11:06:14 pm
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A nuclear reactor would give you many years of energy output though, but maybe the reactor would be way too big and too volatile.

Someone needs to look up the reason that reactors could even possibly go up in the first place.  And then apply the implications of that to why this wouldn't be practical.

(HINT:  it has to do with heat.  ****tonnes of heat.)
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Post by: Nuclear1 on November 20, 2009, 11:13:23 pm
Mmmm nuclear-exploding kitty....
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Post by: The E on November 21, 2009, 06:29:31 am
Right.

Coming up next: New guidance systems for bombs and cruise missiles. See that laser pointer over there? See the cat trying to get to it?