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Title: Age of Empires I - III
Post by: Marcov on January 03, 2010, 07:03:44 pm
Not sure if any one of you already played these games, but I'll explain anyway (all three are Real-Time Strategy games);

Age of Empires I - A really cool game (already old, though) even if the graphics aren't that nice and isn't so historically accurate. It's simple to play; just choose a civilization (such as Greek, Babylonian, Egyptian, Yamato, Choson, etc.) then choose a map. Choose a victory condition; Conquest means to destroy your enemy completely; Standard means capture an artifact or a ruins, or build a Wonder (a massive, expensive building) to start a countdown to victory.

What's funny about this game is that ALL civilizations have the same language (when you click on their units), and it sounds kinda weird. I even made jokes about it when I was a child.

Age of Empires II - Similar to AOE I, but takes place in the Middle Ages. Now more historically accurate - the civilizations FINALLY have different languages. My favorite civs are the Byzantines and the British (Elite Longbowmen pwn). I'm not really fond of sea battles cause the enemy usually spams A LOT.

Age of Empires III - Based on a time from the renessaince to the Industrial Age. This game is far more advanced than the two, and features 3D graphics; cinematics are actually in-game, with the camera zoomed to make it RPG-like. These are the civs; the French, British, German, Dutch, Ottoman, Spanish, Portugese, and Russian. The Iroquois, Aztecs, and Sioux were added in the "War Chiefs" expansion pack; and the Chinese, Indian, and Japanese were added in the "Asian Dynasties" expansion pack.

My favorite of the civs is German...their Doppelsoldners and War Wagons are simply hard as steel. The're just very good units!
Title: Re: Age of Empires I - III
Post by: Dilmah G on January 03, 2010, 09:35:26 pm
I've played them all, my favourite is AoE II: Gold Edition (comes with some cool shiz which you can also download). III's good, but I grew up on II. :) Was LANning this game yesterday, and I concur; English Longbowmen pwn.
Title: Re: Age of Empires I - III
Post by: Scooby_Doo on January 03, 2010, 09:39:18 pm
I've played them all, my favourite is AoE II: Gold Edition (comes with some cool shiz which you can also download). III's good, but I grew up on II. :) Was LANning this game yesterday, and I concur; English Longbowmen pwn.

Just hope they don't run into some Huskrals  ;7
Title: Re: Age of Empires I - III
Post by: Galemp on January 03, 2010, 10:22:34 pm
I played Galactic Battlegrounds (which is just Age of Empires II IN SPACE (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ptitlekt6mtovm4vne?from=Main.RecycledINSPACE)) and I greatly enjoy AOEIII. Coastal bombardment is my specialty.

I also just picked up Command and Conquer: The First Decade. Installed, but I don't know which to start with. Maybe Generals.
Title: Re: Age of Empires I - III
Post by: Scooby_Doo on January 03, 2010, 10:29:59 pm
Surprisingly I loved AoE and Warcraft 1&2..... and starcraft, wc 3 bored the living daylights out of me.  :doubt:
Title: Re: Age of Empires I - III
Post by: Mr. Vega on January 03, 2010, 11:33:38 pm
Could never deal with having to gather four types of resources. People don't play strategy games in order to spend most of their time supervising resource gathering, as opposed to say, attacking and defending against their opponent.
Title: Re: Age of Empires I - III
Post by: Mongoose on January 04, 2010, 12:54:36 am
Could never deal with having to gather four types of resources. People don't play strategy games in order to spend most of their time supervising resource gathering, as opposed to say, attacking and defending against their opponent.
Sez you.  Completely turtling and watching my economy build up is probably my favorite part of games like this. :p

I'm not a huge RTS aficionado, but I greatly enjoyed AoE 2 (and Galactic Battlegrounds, for that matter); I finally played my way through the singleplayer campaigns for the original game and its expansion earlier this year.  Ensemble really nailed the overall balance and combat feel.  I was also a huge fan of the game's pseudo-sequel, Age of Mythology, with its awesome mythological-crossover singleplayer campaign.
Title: Re: Age of Empires I - III
Post by: Pred the Penguin on January 04, 2010, 04:00:30 am
AoEII was my first "real" computer game...
It has the kind of depth I like that isn't too tedious.
AoEIII is just plain boring.
Title: Re: Age of Empires I - III
Post by: Dilmah G on January 04, 2010, 04:03:18 am
I disagree, AoEIII is good, it has its place. But I think it just added too much to what was already a good core game, for my liking.
Title: Re: Age of Empires I - III
Post by: Locutus of Borg on January 04, 2010, 02:31:49 pm
They made it a much faster game.

AoEII I could milk for like a few hours.

AoEIII doesn't really like fortifying and building outposts and stuff. Can't build within 1/2 the map of an enemy town center, WTF?
Title: Re: Age of Empires I - III
Post by: Grizzly on January 22, 2010, 03:48:38 am
I've played them all, my favourite is AoE II: Gold Edition (comes with some cool shiz which you can also download). III's good, but I grew up on II. :) Was LANning this game yesterday, and I concur; English Longbowmen pwn.

My brother keeps owning me with the Mongol Mungadai.
Title: Re: Age of Empires I - III
Post by: Scooby_Doo on January 22, 2010, 03:57:35 am
I would  imagine heavy camels would be effective against the Mungadai.  (So would Huskrals)
Title: Re: Age of Empires I - III
Post by: Dilmah G on January 22, 2010, 04:27:26 am
English Elite Longbowmen, supported by Cavaliers and other infantry, to prevent other cavalry closing on them will take on a Mangudai/Mangudai Formation out of their range. So, with a high attack and a whopping twelve range, Elite Longbowmen will cut most things, including Mangudai, to shreds before the other side can even come into attack range. This includes Castles, seeing as a Castle's range is only eleven. Best way to annoy your mates at an AoE LAN. :D ("Dilmah! You and your bloody longbowmen!")

Yes, the Cams and Huskarls are probably one of your two best bets for taking them down, if that fails, go toe to toe with them with your own Cavalry Archers, supported by Hussars, Knights, Scouts, see if you can beat him at his own game. From memory, the Heavy Cavalry Archer isn't that outclassed by the Mangudai. Researching everything you can in terms of Archer Attack and Armour at the Blacksmith might help close the gap a little here.
Title: Re: Age of Empires I - III
Post by: Pred the Penguin on January 23, 2010, 08:34:56 am
E This includes Castles, seeing as a Castle's range is only eleven. Best way to annoy your mates at an AoE LAN. :D ("Dilmah! You and your bloody longbowmen!")
That's always funny to watch.
Title: Re: Age of Empires I - III
Post by: Mongoose on January 23, 2010, 12:45:16 pm
Those longbowmen pissed me the hell off when I was playing through the French campaign, especially since the computer would generally run-and-gun with individual units.  I either had to create a group of skirmishers to counter (which I don't normally have any interest in using), or else micro-manage the hell out of my cavaliers/paladins and send individual units to track down each one.  Intensely annoying.
Title: Re: Age of Empires I - III
Post by: Pred the Penguin on January 24, 2010, 07:49:02 am
Lolz... now I know why I didn't play through that campaign.

Damn it's been a long time.
Title: Re: Age of Empires I - III
Post by: Mongoose on January 25, 2010, 11:17:03 pm
Come to think of it, they showed up in Saladin's campaign too.  Yay for being annoyed on multiple fronts! :p
Title: Re: Age of Empires I - III
Post by: Grizzly on January 26, 2010, 06:26:46 am
Yes, the Cams and Huskarls are probably one of your two best bets for taking them down, if that fails, go toe to toe with them with your own Cavalry Archers, supported by Hussars, Knights, Scouts, see if you can beat him at his own game. From memory, the Heavy Cavalry Archer isn't that outclassed by the Mangudai. Researching everything you can in terms of Archer Attack and Armour at the Blacksmith might help close the gap a little here.

What is wrong with Mamaluks (except that you can only use them once, because they are so uber expensive)?
Title: Re: Age of Empires I - III
Post by: Dilmah G on January 26, 2010, 09:56:32 am
What do Mamelukes have an attack bonus against? I haven't played Saracens in a looong time.
Title: Re: Age of Empires I - III
Post by: Mongoose on January 26, 2010, 12:42:34 pm
Cavalry, if I remember correctly.  Fits with the idea of real-life horses being scared by camels. :p
Title: Re: Age of Empires I - III
Post by: Timerlane on January 28, 2010, 08:12:55 pm
IIRC, specifically they have a slightly ranged camel-type attack(strong vs horse-cav), which is also considered a physical-type attack, making them quite powerful vs siege weapons, too(you can easily kill battering rams through a wall, much as you could with Mangudai).

I remember I loved Elite Mangudai, as in addition to the vs siege bonus, they have the rare trait of 'fire immediately on clicking a target', whereas just about all other archers have a draw/reload animation that has to finish first(the only other that springs to mind is the Elite Chu Ko Nu(the Chinese repeating crossbow archers)).
Title: Re: Age of Empires I - III
Post by: Grizzly on February 04, 2010, 02:10:27 pm
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IIRC, specifically they have a slightly ranged camel-type attack(strong vs horse-cav), which is also considered a physical-type attack, making them quite powerful vs siege weapons, too(you can easily kill battering rams through a wall, much as you could with Mangudai).

So they are Anti-Mungadai... Mungadai.