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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: Kosh on January 03, 2010, 09:35:13 pm
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So when do we start bombing them? (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/8438128.stm) :p
The US has indications that al-Qaeda is planning an attack in the Yemeni capital Sanaa, President Barack Obama's top counter-terrorism adviser has said.
John Brennan was speaking after the US and UK announced their embassies in Sanaa had temporarily closed.
The US has accused a Yemen-based offshoot of al-Qaeda of being behind the alleged Christmas Day bomb attempt on a US jet flying to Detroit.
There are mounting fears that Yemen is becoming a leading al-Qaeda haven.
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Start? They have been for years... Predator drone strikes are publicized every few months in Yemen.
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Ok, so what about a total invasion? :p
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I'd like to think Washington wouldn't do that again. But I could be wrong. I am up for a good protest.
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I'd like to think Washington wouldn't do that again. But I could be wrong. I am up for a good protest.
I'm sure people said that after the Vietnam debacle, and yet here we are. People have been protesting and protesting.....yet it still goes on.
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That's a gross oversimplification of the facts and you know it. You think that the armed forces just happened to abandon the draft after Vietnam? It took eight years before people started protesting the Vietnam War. Protests over Iraq occurred before the war began. Each time this happens the government/campaign donors have to drone up more and more extravagant Casus Belli (which would have been totally unnecessary fifty years ago), ramp up the propaganda, try to create the illusion of debate over the subject within the two party system. They can't keep it up forever. Do you honestly think that activism accomplished nothing the past one hundred years?
Can we at least suppose that there's only a finite amount of **** the American public will put up with even taking into the account the things mentioned above?
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Ok, so what about a total invasion? :p
Yemen is mildly friendly to the US and more importantly is very friendly with India and Russia. Nonstarter.
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Protests over Iraq occurred before the war began. Each time this happens the government/campaign donors have to drone up more and more extravagant Casus Belli (which would have been totally unnecessary fifty years ago), ramp up the propaganda, try to create the illusion of debate over the subject within the two party system.
Again, even though those protests happened before the war, we've been there for 6 years.........6 YEARS, with no end in sight. Maybe the Casus Belli is a bit more complicated, but it was still BS. It would have been totally unneccesary 50 years ago mainly because now we live in the age of the internet and 24 hour news networks, so because of so much more media now you would need a bigger cover.
The fact is, until very recently huge numbers of people genuinely did support the war and basically drank the kool-aid. Even now we still have droves of people who support it. Ron Paul was boo'ed by a great many people during one of the presidental debates for saying we should pull out......and that was in 2008.
Do you honestly think that activism accomplished nothing the past one hundred years?
No, in the last 100 years it did accomplish a lot, I've been saying in the last 10 years it has accomplished nothing, mainly because they don't have much in the way of broadbased support. Take for example Cindy Sheehan. She was a household name because of her protests at the Bush ranch. After the 2006 congressional elections, it became very clear that the Democrats used the anti-war movement in order get back into power then dumped them. Her responce was to run against Nancy Pelosi in 2008. Result? She was crushed, didn't stand a chance, despite her national fame.
Can we at least suppose that there's only a finite amount of **** the American public will put up with even taking into the account the things mentioned above?
There is, but that amount has actually gone up. People listen to/watch Fox/CNN/Limbaugh/whichever party propoganda person they agree with and believe absolutly everything they say. "XXXXX is all the opposing party's fault." We haven't had this happen to such a high degree before. Who do those teabagging protesters blame? The Democrats of course. Don't underestimate the effects of this kind of polarization.
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given the political situation an invasion of Yemen even if relations with the US deteriorates their relationship Russia means that any UN motion will be vetoes by Russia and i don't think the current administration can afford to or will be willing to start an unsanctioned war though to be honest unless necessary i don't think war is an option at all for Obama. to deal with a situation like this a little under the table intelligence support would serve better, It would piss the CIA off but that another reason I like the idea
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not to mention he's a peace prize winner.
Who do those teabagging protesters blame? The Democrats of course.
you'd actually be supprized, most of them blame the republicans for being spendaholics, they just thing the democrats are worse.
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you'd actually be supprized, most of them blame the republicans for being spendaholics, they just thing the democrats are worse.
And yet some rather prominant Republicans showed up. (http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2009/11/26/palin-bachmann-to-headline-tea-party-convention-2/) There's also the Republican shills from Fox that tag along as well (http://blogs.tampabay.com/buzz/2009/12/tea-partyglenn-beck-challenger-to-cw-bill-young.html)
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nuke 'em
*sips coolaid*
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given the political situation an invasion of Yemen even if relations with the US deteriorates their relationship Russia means that any UN motion will be vetoes by Russia and i don't think the current administration can afford to or will be willing to start an unsanctioned war though to be honest unless necessary i don't think war is an option at all for Obama. to deal with a situation like this a little under the table intelligence support would serve better, It would piss the CIA off but that another reason I like the idea
If they do anything about Yemen I imagine the situation would be to use the already present US military presence as a springboard with permission of the Yemen government. They pretty much already do this. They would step up Predator missions and send in covert ops teams and that sort of thing... I imagine that is how it would happen.