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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: Kosh on January 04, 2010, 06:03:01 pm
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I bet the conspiracy theorists are going to be all over this one........ (http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2009/12/just-what-did-president-obamas-executive-order-regarding-interpol-do.html)
So, if I am interpreting this correctly INTERPOL now has full diplomatic immunity, is that correct?
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Nope.
(These privileges are not the same as the rights afforded under "diplomatic immunity," they are considerably less. "Diplomatic immunity" comes from the Vienna Convention on Diplomatic Relations, which states that a "diplomatic agent shall enjoy immunity from the criminal jurisdiction of the receiving State." That is NOT what the International Organizations Immunities Act is.)
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From the article you posted:
These privileges are not the same as the rights afforded under "diplomatic immunity," they are considerably less. "Diplomatic immunity" comes from the Vienna Convention on Diplomatic Relations, which states that a "diplomatic agent shall enjoy immunity from the criminal jurisdiction of the receiving State." That is NOT what the International Organizations Immunities Act is.
Basically, recognizing a group under the International Organizations Immunities Act means officials from those organizations are exempt from some taxes and customs fees, and that their records cannot be seized.
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Bah, someone beat me. Might be good to read the article before you link it, Kosh.
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They have Chun-li, they don't need any special treatment. Although tax relaxations are always welcome.
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From the article you posted:
These privileges are not the same as the rights afforded under "diplomatic immunity," they are considerably less. "Diplomatic immunity" comes from the Vienna Convention on Diplomatic Relations, which states that a "diplomatic agent shall enjoy immunity from the criminal jurisdiction of the receiving State." That is NOT what the International Organizations Immunities Act is.
Basically, recognizing a group under the International Organizations Immunities Act means officials from those organizations are exempt from some taxes and customs fees, and that their records cannot be seized.
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Bah, someone beat me. Might be good to read the article before you link it, Kosh.
hmmmm not quite true and the article is slightly misleading please read below section 2(b) from.
International Organizations Immunities Act (http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/International_Organizations_Immunities_Act#Title_I)
(b) International organizations, their property and their assets, wherever located, and by whomsoever held, shall enjoy the same immunity from suit and every form of judicial process as is enjoyed by foreign governments, except to the extent that such organizations may expressly waive their immunity for the purpose of any proceedings or by the terms of any contract.
this basically means that any INTERPOL property has the same core rights as an international embassy and the property of the applied organization so your not quite right Kosh but this is close. It basically means that at a law enforcement level no action can be taken and the judiciary cant order entry of the building or seizure/inspection of any property belonging to INTERPOL so if for some reason entry was denied but needed it would have to be ordered by the pentagon, Intelligence agencies or the president
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Curse them!
Curse them and their bureaucratic verbal malfanglings!
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No it doesn't. It means it can't be arbitrarily seized or searched and that seems to be subject to a negotiated treaty and can be waived by the organization. But it is NOT sovereign territory of a foreign power and its residents may be arrested and prosecuted. Some immunities, but hardly blanket. Re-read the act.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/24429759/United-States-International-Organizations-Immunities-Act-of-1945
An INTERPOL agent will still get a speeding ticket. An INTERPOL agent would still be arrested for shoplifting. An INTERPOL agent could still be jailed for murder. Its hardly a license to do "anything they want in the US."
We just can't impound their computers or their cars, or search their offices (probably with the State Dept's permission, thats unclear).