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Title: Flipped...
Post by: JarC on May 07, 2001, 05:58:00 pm
Ok guys, got this problem...how you select the face of a poly to flip it's normal if that face is inside of a model? (somehow TS only will select the facing polys)

I have this 1!! damned poly that's flipped, the model is completely solid and I don't want to risk the integrity by deleting the face and recreate...
Title: Flipped...
Post by: Bobboau on May 07, 2001, 11:40:00 pm
well you could press the flip all normalls button, then select the face flip it, and press the flip all normals button again

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Title: Flipped...
Post by: morris13 on May 07, 2001, 11:54:00 pm
 
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Originally posted by JarC:
Ok guys, got this problem...how you select the face of a poly to flip it's normal if that face is inside of a model? (somehow TS only will select the facing polys)

If it's inside the model, why does it need to be textured? I'm a little confused by what you mean.
Title: Flipped...
Post by: Starwing on May 08, 2001, 12:55:00 am
Put a camera inside the model.

morris: Well, probably it is no longer inside the model when it faces into the correct direction?
Title: Flipped...
Post by: Bobboau on May 08, 2001, 01:02:00 am
it isn't in the model, it is like any other poly it's just faceing the wrong direction, so there is a big hole.

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Title: Flipped...
Post by: Nico on May 08, 2001, 01:18:00 am
yeah, when someone is facing the wrong direction, you can sometimes see a big hole  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif) (hem sorry)

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Title: Flipped...
Post by: Shrike on May 08, 2001, 03:52:00 am
ahh.....gotta love that 'flip normals' button on 3DS...  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/lol.gif)

Seriously, you guys must have a ****load of patience to use TS...all I hear are horror stories.
Title: Flipped...
Post by: The Claw on May 08, 2001, 04:01:00 am
<insert scream here>

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Title: Flipped...
Post by: Warlock on May 08, 2001, 06:20:00 am
Horror? YOu just do not know!

Wait until you wake up in the middle of the night in a cold sweat screaming "NOOOOOO!!!!!!! IT CRASHED AND I FINALLY GOT THE POLY COUNT DOWN TO FS2 LEVELS!!!!!"

Then you know horror.


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Title: Flipped...
Post by: JarC on May 08, 2001, 06:26:00 am
 
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Originally posted by Bobboau:
it isn't in the model, it is like any other poly it's just faceing the wrong direction, so there is a big hole.

Luckily the hole is very small, and you'd only notice if you knew were to look...

the problem is that I can NOT select that poly (I DID try the 'flip normal' button, but in order to be able to select the poly, you have to be able to see the textured side in TS which I can't get at without breaking the model open, at least I have not found another way)

put a camera inside? hmm...sounds weird enough it may just work....


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Title: Flipped...
Post by: Bobboau on May 08, 2001, 10:32:00 am
TS isn't that bad, exept for the crashing when ever you get done, and the pushing a button and doing someething unreversable, and the crapy UV tools and...


TS sux, were can I find 3Ds

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Title: Flipped...
Post by: Starwing on May 08, 2001, 10:37:00 am
 
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Originally posted by JarC:
put a camera inside? hmm...sounds weird enough it may just work....

I textured parts of the hangar bay of my Autarch class dreadnought this way. It allows you to access faces that would be hidden otherwise.
Title: Flipped...
Post by: JarC on May 08, 2001, 04:15:00 pm
     
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Originally posted by Starwing:
It allows you to access faces that would be hidden otherwise.

Starwing I owe you one, it worked like a charm      (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif)

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Title: Flipped...
Post by: The Claw on May 08, 2001, 04:20:00 pm
 
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TS isn't that bad, exept for
The fact that I still can't get subobjects working. And NOW I am annoyed. Can't you tell the difference?  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/tux.gif)

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#knees death in the groin#
Rimmer:"Remember matey, it's only the good that die young"
"Do not fear the chickens. Become one with the chickens. Respect the chickens and... #BOK!# LEG IT!!!"
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Title: Flipped...
Post by: Nico on May 08, 2001, 05:25:00 pm
one of the funniest thing TS does: you made a mistake, so you push the undo button. What does TS do? it undo the last camera movement, of course, not the "oups I deleted the wrong part!" lol  (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/biggrin.gif) (better take that with a smile)

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Title: Flipped...
Post by: Shrike on May 08, 2001, 05:28:00 pm
Then don't make mistakes.   (http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~freespace/ubb/noncgi/wink.gif)