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Title: Need some Vasudan Capships
Post by: mr.WHO on January 22, 2010, 04:02:52 pm
Hello I'm looking for some modern Vasudan capships (Sobek and Hatshepsut style). What I need is a destroyer (that is not a Hedetet) and a Corvette (that is not a Wepwawet) ?

I also look for some big Vasudan ship for their flagship (super destroyer, Juggernat or Command ship, but not Tanen carrier).
I checked some ships at FreespaceMods and User-made Wiki but there is nothing interesting enough.

P.S "Do it yourself" answer is a big no no.
Title: Re: Need some Vasudan Capships
Post by: Snail on January 22, 2010, 06:40:19 pm
Well you could always try re-texturing the Ancient capital ships from the ASW modpack, I'm sure that would get you somewhere at least.
Title: Re: Need some Vasudan Capships
Post by: Droid803 on January 22, 2010, 09:04:37 pm
The AD Achladia was originally a Vasudan destroyer in a modeldump, to expand on Snail's suggestion.

I wouldn't use the tentacled stuff though.
Title: Re: Need some Vasudan Capships
Post by: Black Wolf on January 22, 2010, 11:13:00 pm
The AD Achladia was originally a Vasudan destroyer in a modeldump, to expand on Snail's suggestion.

I wouldn't use the tentacled stuff though.

Do you remember which one?
Title: Re: Need some Vasudan Capships
Post by: Droid803 on January 22, 2010, 11:13:57 pm
It was a half-mesh (needed to be mirrored) in one of Aldo's modeldumps. Probably modeldump 3.

EDIT: Correction - it's in modeldump 5, named gvca_8.max
Title: Re: Need some Vasudan Capships
Post by: Black Wolf on January 23, 2010, 12:38:11 am
Actually, just playing with the ASW model reveals it transitions back very well to Typhon style textures even with just a simple modelview retexture job. Give that a go Mr Who.
Title: Re: Need some Vasudan Capships
Post by: Droid803 on January 23, 2010, 12:16:11 pm
We didn't do anything to that particular model other than add turrets.
Title: Re: Need some Vasudan Capships
Post by: Dragon on January 23, 2010, 12:51:08 pm
Stratcomm's Vasudan ships would be a way to go, but they're unreleased.
For a Juggernaut, try the Khonsu: http://freespacemods.net/download.php?view.504
Title: Re: Need some Vasudan Capships
Post by: Thaeris on January 23, 2010, 01:31:55 pm
The Khonsu's probably not a great choice, as it's just a "kitbash" ship. Try browsing the Wiki's "User-Made Ships" index.
Title: Re: Need some Vasudan Capships
Post by: Black Wolf on January 29, 2010, 11:55:36 am
This (http://www.hard-light.net/wiki/index.php/GVD_Hathor) is what I was talking about before.
Title: Re: Need some Vasudan Capships
Post by: Snail on January 29, 2010, 02:19:03 pm
This (http://www.hard-light.net/wiki/index.php/GVD_Hathor) is what I was talking about before.
Wow that looks pretty decent, surprisingly.
Title: Re: Need some Vasudan Capships
Post by: Black Wolf on January 29, 2010, 06:15:32 pm
Yeah, I normally wouldn't bother releasing a reskin likw that, but it really turned out well in this case. Kudos to the original mapper I suppose.
Title: Re: Need some Vasudan Capships
Post by: Droid803 on January 29, 2010, 06:51:30 pm
That'd be FSF. (the model in the dump was not completely mapped, and had to be re-mapped).
Title: Re: Need some Vasudan Capships
Post by: FreeSpaceFreak on January 30, 2010, 01:47:55 am
:pimp:
Title: Re: Need some Vasudan Capships
Post by: mr.WHO on January 30, 2010, 11:23:35 am
I made a modern hull reskin:

(http://i.imagehost.org/0004/hathor.jpg)
Title: Re: Need some Vasudan Capships
Post by: Dragon on January 30, 2010, 11:27:08 am
Looks good, but use Mediavps.
Title: Re: Need some Vasudan Capships
Post by: MatthTheGeek on January 30, 2010, 11:51:17 am
The main tile looks too large on this one, the typhon-like tile fit better IMHO, especially given that this ship has a more Typhon-like shape than a Hatshep-like.
Title: Re: Need some Vasudan Capships
Post by: The E on January 30, 2010, 11:52:58 am
Yeah, on a ship that big, extra surface detail is necessary.
Title: Re: Need some Vasudan Capships
Post by: bobbtmann on January 30, 2010, 04:34:30 pm
I have had this one for a few months. It's Vasudan-ish, and pretty big. Four km long or something. It is unfinished.

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Title: Re: Need some Vasudan Capships
Post by: Snail on January 30, 2010, 04:46:29 pm
Blinks.

That doesn't look even vaguely Vasudan to me. At all.
Title: Re: Need some Vasudan Capships
Post by: bobbtmann on January 30, 2010, 05:29:24 pm
Really! If the Vasudans built Juggernauts, that's what they would look like.
Title: Re: Need some Vasudan Capships
Post by: Snail on January 30, 2010, 05:30:56 pm
:blah:

If you say so.
Title: Re: Need some Vasudan Capships
Post by: General Battuta on January 30, 2010, 06:31:56 pm
I completely encourage you to keep modeling, bobbtman, but for the moment it looks like something I'd buy for my bath.  :p
Title: Re: Need some Vasudan Capships
Post by: Thaeris on January 30, 2010, 09:00:06 pm
...Makes for great Vasudan Space Soap debris or a Space Termite Colony, though...  :P

Or a potato chip...  :nervous:

 :D
Title: Re: Need some Vasudan Capships
Post by: Droid803 on January 30, 2010, 09:10:10 pm
Actually, that's a pretty solid rock formation.
Needs a few more details to look like a ship though.
Title: Re: Need some Vasudan Capships
Post by: Aardwolf on January 30, 2010, 09:18:01 pm
My vote's for ptatoic hips.
Title: Re: Need some Vasudan Capships
Post by: Thaeris on January 30, 2010, 09:22:49 pm
My vote's for ptatoic hips.

[jedihandwave]
May the Llama be with you...
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 :lol:
Title: Re: Need some Vasudan Capships
Post by: ssmit132 on January 30, 2010, 10:32:24 pm
Or a potato chip...  :nervous:
Sandwich vs potato ship chip fighters!
Title: Re: Need some Vasudan Capships
Post by: Galemp on January 31, 2010, 01:10:05 am
Y'know, with the right greebling and some really good texture variation, it could have potential. After all, the ISD is just a wedge, right?
Title: Re: Need some Vasudan Capships
Post by: Black Wolf on January 31, 2010, 06:11:01 am
FreespaceFreak - When I made the zip for upload, I didn't know specifically who had done the texturing work, so I credited the pof to "The Ancient-Shivan War team". If you want, I can change it so it's more specific to you?

Mr. WHO - You seem to have run into the same problem I did with the low repeat count on the main texture. I ended up making a mirrored, 4x larger typhon tile (That's what capital-01r is) to try to hide it, but that was, at best, only semi-successful - it still looks more corvette sized than destroyer sized. With yours, without upsizing the textures, you're going to get some really serious pixellation of those textures up close, and you have an even bigger sense-of-scale issue, IMO. But if you like it, more power to you. :nod:
Title: Re: Need some Vasudan Capships
Post by: Snail on January 31, 2010, 06:14:43 am
Really! If the Vasudans built Juggernauts, that's what they would look like.
Hey bob don't get me wrong, I think it has potential. But it needs a lot more details and texture variation to make it look like a ship. Turrets, windows, subsystems, greebles...
Title: Re: Need some Vasudan Capships
Post by: FreeSpaceFreak on January 31, 2010, 07:26:28 am
FreespaceFreak - When I made the zip for upload, I didn't know specifically who had done the texturing work, so I credited the pof to "The Ancient-Shivan War team". If you want, I can change it so it's more specific to you?
Nah, it's fine. Droid did most of the converting work anyways.

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Mr. WHO - You seem to have run into the same problem I did with the low repeat count on the main texture. I ended up making a mirrored, 4x larger typhon tile (That's what capital-01r is) to try to hide it, but that was, at best, only semi-successful - it still looks more corvette sized than destroyer sized. With yours, without upsizing the textures, you're going to get some really serious pixellation of those textures up close, and you have an even bigger sense-of-scale issue, IMO. But if you like it, more power to you. :nod:
Yes, that's an issue; the map we have doesn't tile properly, so I've had to stretch it quite a bit :nervous:
Title: Re: Need some Vasudan Capships
Post by: mr.WHO on February 01, 2010, 05:33:34 am
Still not perfect, but much better than previous:

(http://i.imagehost.org/0111/hathor_2.jpg)
Title: Re: Need some Vasudan Capships
Post by: TrashMan on February 01, 2010, 06:56:54 am
*Use the TILING, Luke!*
Title: Re: Need some Vasudan Capships
Post by: bobbtmann on February 01, 2010, 12:47:09 pm
With armour plates that big, you'd probably be better of making them a part of the geometry.
Title: Re: Need some Vasudan Capships
Post by: Snail on February 01, 2010, 12:54:17 pm
With armour plates that big, you'd probably be better of making them a part of the geometry.
True.

But the point was a quick solution that didn't require extra modelling or conversion.
Title: Re: Need some Vasudan Capships
Post by: Stormkeeper on February 01, 2010, 05:33:26 pm
I have had this one for a few months. It's Vasudan-ish, and pretty big. Four km long or something. It is unfinished.
Looks like a rock formation.

And I like mrWho's retex attempts thus far.
Title: Re: Need some Vasudan Capships
Post by: Droid803 on February 01, 2010, 07:47:03 pm
I'm partial to the Typhon-esque one, myself. The details are necessary.
Title: Re: Need some Vasudan Capships
Post by: Stormkeeper on February 01, 2010, 10:35:18 pm
Maybe, but I've never really liked how the Typhon's textures looked. I much rather preferred the newer Vasudan ships' textures.