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Title: C&C: TS + Firestorm Exp. = Freeware
Post by: BloodEagle on February 17, 2010, 01:52:20 pm: See title for relevant information.

http://www.fileshack.com/file.x/17154/Command+&+Conquer:+Tiberian+Sun+++'Firestorm'+Expansion+Full+Free+Game
Title: Re: C&C: TS + Firestorm Exp. = Freeware
Post by: Colonol Dekker on February 17, 2010, 02:01:39 pm: At last, I can replace my GDI disc!

HELL YEAH!
Title: Re: C&C: TS + Firestorm Exp. = Freeware
Post by: CP5670 on February 17, 2010, 02:17:39 pm: Good to see. The previous games, C&C and RA, have also been freely available for some time now.
Title: Re: C&C: TS + Firestorm Exp. = Freeware
Post by: Mongoose on February 18, 2010, 04:02:35 pm: It's always amused me that Command & Conquer is probably the most popular franchise among PC-types that I know next to nothing about. Even if I don't wind up getting into it, I need one of you lot to clue me in a bit at some point, so I can up my nerd-cred. :p
Title: Re: C&C: TS + Firestorm Exp. = Freeware
Post by: Colonol Dekker on February 18, 2010, 04:09:42 pm: In short Kane is the king of the universe and Tanya from Red Alert 2 is my wife. . .

Also tesla troopers are a waste of cash.
Title: Re: C&C: TS + Firestorm Exp. = Freeware
Post by: CP5670 on February 18, 2010, 04:16:37 pm: Quote
It's always amused me that Command & Conquer is probably the most popular franchise among PC-types that I know next to nothing about. Even if I don't wind up getting into it, I need one of you lot to clue me in a bit at some point, so I can up my nerd-cred.

They are classic-style base building RTSs. Try out the first C&C. I think it remains the best of the series and is one of my favorite games ever, especially the singleplayer campaigns and story. It's free now, so you can't really go wrong. :p
Title: Re: C&C: TS + Firestorm Exp. = Freeware
Post by: Scotty on February 18, 2010, 04:21:27 pm: C&C is honestly the purest of base-building RTSs. You have one resource, one type of collector unit, and a bunch of combat units and buildings to blow the **** out of the other guy. Great story because there are only two factions to share the spotlight, and both are fairly well developed.
Title: Re: C&C: TS + Firestorm Exp. = Freeware
Post by: headdie on February 18, 2010, 04:27:25 pm: all factions in any C&C are different in strategy but well balanced for a good fight
Title: Re: C&C: TS + Firestorm Exp. = Freeware
Post by: SpardaSon21 on February 18, 2010, 06:46:21 pm: C&C1 didn't have power plants?
Title: Re: C&C: TS + Firestorm Exp. = Freeware
Post by: Scotty on February 18, 2010, 09:46:27 pm: I don't really count power as a resource, due to how it's not really collected. It did have power plants.
Title: Re: C&C: TS + Firestorm Exp. = Freeware
Post by: Desertfox287 on February 18, 2010, 09:53:52 pm: seeing as many people like them, I may give them a look-see
Title: Re: C&C: TS + Firestorm Exp. = Freeware
Post by: Mongoose on February 19, 2010, 12:08:42 am: Quote from: CP5670 on February 18, 2010, 04:16:37 pm
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It's always amused me that Command & Conquer is probably the most popular franchise among PC-types that I know next to nothing about. Even if I don't wind up getting into it, I need one of you lot to clue me in a bit at some point, so I can up my nerd-cred.

They are classic-style base building RTSs. Try out the first C&C. I think it remains the best of the series and is one of my favorite games ever, especially the singleplayer campaigns and story. It's free now, so you can't really go wrong. :p
I'm not a huge RTS player, but I did greatly enjoy Age of Empires 2 and Age of Mythology, so maybe I'll give it a shot at some point. One thing I am unclear on, though, is the overall chronology of the series. I know that the Red Alert games are some sort of spinoff/alternate universe from the main series, but is it necessary to slot them in somewhere?
Title: Re: C&C: TS + Firestorm Exp. = Freeware
Post by: SpardaSon21 on February 19, 2010, 12:21:28 am: Depends.
Spoiler:
The Soviet ending to RA1 has Kane appearing at the end and declaring "a new age is upon us". So either yes, same continuity, or no, Easter egg.
Title: Re: C&C: TS + Firestorm Exp. = Freeware
Post by: Narvi on February 19, 2010, 01:22:22 am: The continuity between series is a bit FUBAR.

Originally, Red Alert was a prequel to the Tiberium series.

Then Red Alert 2 came out, and went in an entirely different, cheesy direction. Nonetheless, apparently there was still going to be a connection to Tiberium somehow, or so the original devs claim. (Apparently time travel, Nikolai Tesla, and aliens were involved. Somehow.)

After Westwood was bought out by EA, Red Alert was officially dropped from continuity, making Red Alert and Tiberium into two different continuities. Lots of people still place Red Alert 1 in the Tiberium continuity, since Kane has one scene in it, but it's an amazing one.
Title: Re: C&C: TS + Firestorm Exp. = Freeware
Post by: Colonol Dekker on February 19, 2010, 02:58:13 am: As far as i'm concerned EA can eat my hat.

Red Alert, RA2 and 3 all precede c&c.

Also power plants are valid resources.

Total annihilation and numerous others follow the trend.
Title: Re: C&C: TS + Firestorm Exp. = Freeware
Post by: headdie on February 19, 2010, 03:27:11 am: Quote from: Colonol Dekker on February 19, 2010, 02:58:13 am

Total annihilation and numerous others follow the trend.

another kick ass game

going back on topic anyone who hasn't played the C&C games is missing out, they were light years ahead of anything in their day and the early ones still hold their own today

on a tangent has anyone here played dune 2?
Title: Re: C&C: TS + Firestorm Exp. = Freeware
Post by: Thaeris on February 19, 2010, 02:03:24 pm: That and the original Dune are available via Abandonia...

Speaking of which, I picked up Master of Orion the other day. A great game for sure. :yes:
Title: Re: C&C: TS + Firestorm Exp. = Freeware
Post by: Desertfox287 on February 19, 2010, 03:51:41 pm: Quote from: Thaeris on February 19, 2010, 02:03:24 pm
That and the original Dune are available via Abandonia...

Speaking of which, I picked up Master of Orion the other day. A great game for sure. :yes:
the first and second ones were fine, but the third is clearly the worst
Title: Re: C&C: TS + Firestorm Exp. = Freeware
Post by: Thaeris on February 19, 2010, 03:53:38 pm: There were only two Dune games made, If I understand this properly...

Unless you're stating that you don't care for Master of Orion. Which is fine, I suppose.

...I still need to install C&C sometime - I've just not done so yet. ;)
Title: Re: C&C: TS + Firestorm Exp. = Freeware
Post by: lostllama on February 19, 2010, 04:01:21 pm: Quote from: Thaeris on February 19, 2010, 03:53:38 pm
There were only two Dune games made, If I understand this properly...

To my knowledge, there have been four Dune-related games produced. The first Dune game (developed by Cryo) is a sort of adventure game. Dune 2 (by Westwood) is an RTS, as is Dune 2000 and Emperor: Battle for Dune.

EDIT: Make that five. Cryo did a sort of remake of the first game back in 2000-ish.
Title: Re: C&C: TS + Firestorm Exp. = Freeware
Post by: Desertfox287 on February 19, 2010, 04:06:54 pm: Quote from: Thaeris on February 19, 2010, 03:53:38 pm
There were only two Dune games made, If I understand this properly...

Unless you're stating that you don't care for Master of Orion. Which is fine, I suppose.

...I still need to install C&C sometime - I've just not done so yet. ;)
Master of Orion. Sorry, I forgot to take out the other part of the quote. but I think MOO1&2 were better than three
Title: Re: C&C: TS + Firestorm Exp. = Freeware
Post by: SpardaSon21 on February 19, 2010, 04:27:30 pm: There was no MoO3, just like there was no Galactica 1980 or Matrix sequels.
Title: Re: C&C: TS + Firestorm Exp. = Freeware
Post by: NGTM-1R on February 19, 2010, 05:50:10 pm: Quote from: Mongoose on February 19, 2010, 12:08:42 am
I'm not a huge RTS player, but I did greatly enjoy Age of Empires 2 and Age of Mythology, so maybe I'll give it a shot at some point. One thing I am unclear on, though, is the overall chronology of the series. I know that the Red Alert games are some sort of spinoff/alternate universe from the main series, but is it necessary to slot them in somewhere?

Red Alert 1 can be considered a prequal to the original C&C, and actually was until RA2 came out, at which point RA was seperated out into a totally different timeline. Quite a few of the fans are still upset about the removal of RA1 rather than it acting as a fork, I gather, and will say it was. Generals never pretended to be anything but seperate.

Otherwise, they work out in release order for both series.
Title: Re: C&C: TS + Firestorm Exp. = Freeware
Post by: SpardaSon21 on February 19, 2010, 06:00:10 pm: Frakking RA3 had to have the Soviets going back in time to kill Einstein off. Einstein was a totally awesome part of the RA games. The Allies wouldn't have the awesome Chronosphere, Prism Tanks, or any other of his excellent inventions. Killing Einstein also introduced a paradox because if the Soviets went back in time to kill Einstein, how could Einstein go back in time to kill Hitler, causing the events of RA1? And if RA1 didn't happen because Einstein wasn't around to kill Hitler, then how could the Soviets create time travel to go back in time and kill an Einstein who never existed?

EDIT: Okay, let me clarify the whole RA3 paradox. Einstein went back in time and killed Hitler, so there was no Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union and Allies went to war. If the Soviets went back in time to kill Einstein, then Einstein never went back in time to kill Hitler, meaning Hitler was around to create Nazi Germany, meaning WWII should have happened as planned, so it is impossible for the events of the RA series to take place because Hitler was never killed by a time-traveling Einstein.
Title: Re: C&C: TS + Firestorm Exp. = Freeware
Post by: CP5670 on February 19, 2010, 06:08:33 pm: I don't think RA1 ever fit into the C&C storyline, despite being designed as a prequel. The C&C universe was obviously based around the real world (in 1995), while RA1 had a more surreal, alternate history feel to it. The only connection between them is Kane, but he plays a pretty minor role in RA1. There is no reference to any of the RA1 events in C&C and it's a little odd how Nod has some Allied units and GDI has some Soviet ones. (Russia is actually shown as a GDI country in C&C)

Dune 2 was great too. That was where it all started for RTSs. Among the later games, Dune 2000 reportedly sucked while Emperor was supposed to be pretty good, but I haven't played either of them.
Title: Re: C&C: TS + Firestorm Exp. = Freeware
Post by: headdie on February 20, 2010, 01:50:00 am: I had dune 2000 and it was the C&C engine re skinned, it worked OK but didn't live up to the hype and to be honest delivered nothing new so ranks as a mediocre RTS at best